wingnutmn From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 622 posts, RR: 0 Reply 4, posted (2 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 8101 times:
If only they could find a way to expand customs and immigration. I would rather have them tear down gates G1 through G14 and just start over. What MSP really needs is for all of C concourse, along with B and A to be all regional equipment. I also thought that Terminal 2 was being expanded and all non skyteam airlines (all but DL) were getting moved so DL could have all of Terminal 1? MSP will always be a work in progress.
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TVNWZ From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 2273 posts, RR: 2 Reply 5, posted (2 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 8074 times:
With the quick connection times Delta has been running, who has time to eat? I have gone from 1.5 hour average on west coast connections to about 45 minutes. So, McDonalds leaving? Most popular resturant on G now.
Acey559 From United States of America, joined Jan 2007, 1448 posts, RR: 2 Reply 6, posted (2 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 7998 times:
Wow that DOES sound awesome! I've only traversed MSP once in my travels with DL, but I liked the airport and this will be great. The Beer Hall sounds like something that's right up my alley, but pretty much everything is really nice. I hope ATL gets something like this soon as well! Are the food upgrades for JFK complete now or are they still being worked on? Thanks for the link!
steeler83 From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 8955 posts, RR: 18 Reply 7, posted (2 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 7794 times:
Quoting 727tiger (Reply 1): This is great news for MSP. Can't wait to transit through MSP after this upgrade is completed
Well, I'll definitely have to make another trip to SEA via DL/MSP! :-P
I thought the little mall they have there was pretty sweet. Unfortunately my wife and I only had a 1 hour layover on our way back to Philly.
We arrived at the G concourse and had to walk to the tram that took us to the D gates. There wasn't much in the way of any food choices except for a sandwich from a little convenience store-type place in the D concourse. So yeah, this would be awesome...
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burnsie28 From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 7479 posts, RR: 9 Reply 8, posted (2 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 7696 times:
It sounds great when I was reading through it, especially keeping with the Minnesota cuisine. My only concern is with many people not having long connections, will they be ditching many of the places that allowed for faster meals. Also, please leave the NWA plane hanging in Concourse G!
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FWAERJ From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 3521 posts, RR: 1 Reply 10, posted (2 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 7463 times:
Quoting TVNWZ (Reply 5): So, McDonalds leaving? Most popular resturant on G now.
I ate breakfast at the MSP Concourse G McD's in 2008. It was right next to my gate for a departure to SNA. And yes, the line there was extremely long.
Anyway, the food sounds very good, and I like the use of local restaurants (especially in the Twin Cities). Though the renovation starts next January, I wonder if it will be mostly done or complete by next summer in time for the seasonal FWA-MSP flights.
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FiestaFlight From United States of America, joined Mar 2009, 54 posts, RR: 0 Reply 12, posted (2 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 6665 times:
Sounds OK, but I'd prefer if MSP or Delta built a new observation deck over on that side instead- or better yet, bring
back the cool outdoor observation deck they use to have when I was a kid (it surrounded the current one, but it's now covered in roof pebbles I think)
Even the SkyClub has fogged windows with zero view. Gross.
Maybe an "Encounters" style observatory restaurant up on top of the gawdawful parking garage? That would be cool.
Agreed the old Gold (still refuse to call it "G") concourse is a bit dated. Got a soft spot for my former hometown airport, but the international arrivals/customs experience is sort of creaky too.
FlyASAGuy2005 From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 6857 posts, RR: 11 Reply 14, posted (2 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 6276 times:
Indeed. I've only been through MSP twice. Both times was the same round trip, ATL-MSP-LHR-MSP-ATL. It was so...blah. Very un-impressive space to say the least. A building with gates a few dining options. Seemed very "dark" also. Hopefully this will liven things up a bit over there. ATL got a much needed face lift around 2006-2008 and the changes on the concourses (save for D) is very noticable.
Also, the funky dining options at JFK and LGA seems to have hit it off well with the pax. Everytime i'm through there, I see people ordering from the iPad things.
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floridaflyboy From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 1997 posts, RR: 0 Reply 15, posted (2 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 6113 times:
Quoting FlyASAGuy2005 (Reply 14): Indeed. I've only been through MSP twice. Both times was the same round trip, ATL-MSP-LHR-MSP-ATL. It was so...blah. Very un-impressive space to say the least. A building with gates a few dining options. Seemed very "dark" also.
MSP completely depends on what concourse you are in. A, B, and upper C are very bright and modern, and the dining options tend to be a little better. Lower D, G, and especially E leave something to be desired. And F and lower C are.....eh.
peanuts From Netherlands, joined Dec 2009, 1375 posts, RR: 4 Reply 16, posted (2 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 6102 times:
This can be perceived as good news and /or bad news.
As with LGA, DL seems to be putting a lot of thought into the food offerings at its terminals.
What are the underlying thoughts here? I can see the justification for LGA. What about MSP?
Some random thoughts:
-pamper your customer, build food courts everywhere. DL will get "credit" for "nice" layover experiences.
-cannibalize onboard food sales...?
-does DL get "royalties" from vendors at its terminals? So a lucrative flow of income from a captive audience...
-will DL quietly increase layover times between flights and this is an attempt to muzzle the crowd?
In other words: why make MSP better than it is since you pretty much rule over it anyways? There are no other major airports in the vicinity. Unless DL feels it has to compete with Humphrey Terminal...
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n7371f From United States of America, joined Jul 2008, 1581 posts, RR: 12 Reply 17, posted (2 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 5789 times:
I may be off...but last time the 'G' or 'Gold' concourse came up in a discussion, it was still owned and controlled by NWA. That was mid-2000's but I don't recall ever hearing or reading anything about the MAC gaining full control over 'G'. As someone else posted above, Northwest built the concourse with its own money. I assumed the ownership was transferred to Delta in the merger. Certainly Delta still inherited more control over 'G' than any other concourse it operates from...
MSPNWA From United States of America, joined Apr 2009, 1724 posts, RR: 3 Reply 18, posted (2 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 5263 times:
I guess I'll take a wait and see approach to see if I like it. I've seen this new deal at JFK, and it just wasn't my type of thing I guess. I'm curious as to where exactly this will be all be located. Right now G isn't fancy, but it's clean and fairly roomy. I don't want to see that changed negatively.
usflyer msp From United States of America, joined May 2000, 1973 posts, RR: 0 Reply 21, posted (2 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 4829 times:
I think DL might be making it a bit too upscale. From what I see, there is no place for families with small children to eat (like McDonalds) and that might be a problem. I find SFO has similar concession problems...ideally it should be a good mix of upscale and not-so-upscale. I do support bringing in more local businesses however, that will be great.
DeltAirlines From United States of America, joined May 1999, 8818 posts, RR: 12 Reply 22, posted (2 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 4680 times:
Sounds like a good improvement - anything that gets rid of fast food options for something fresh and healthier is a win in my book. MSP already had some solid food options in place with Ike's and a few others; this will take it to the next level.
For those that still would want to gorge on the nastiness that is American processed fast food, there is still the food court in the middle of the Mall with staples such as Burger King and Famous Famiglia.
CIDFlyer From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 2145 posts, RR: 3 Reply 23, posted (2 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 4642 times:
it doesnt say they are totaly getting rid of mcdonalds so are they really? There are 2 mcdonalds on G. Would be a bummer if they did. I always thought G was pretty nice myself, yes it could be more bright and airy but it works.
PSU.DTW.SCE From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 7179 posts, RR: 29 Reply 24, posted (2 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days ago) and read 4072 times:
MSP may not have the most glamerous facilities but they still are functional and get the job done. I find little difference the appeal of MSP's concourses versus ATL (minus concourse E), SLC, and MEM.
MSP's regional gates in A, B, and high C are very nice. Concourse D only has a handful of gates. I've actually never been out in E. I actually find G to be nicer than F. F reminds me of the old Davey Terminal at DTW. Either way, the concourses are still functional and the layout of the ramp enables good hubsite operations, as aircraft can easily access gates and pushback with out blocking alleyways.
The SkyClubs are both very nice, including the one of C which was remodeled in the same era as the DTW SkyClub (Worldclub layout). The newly remodeled SkyClub in F/G is unique and a new format, but still very nice.
25 FSDan: I was thinking the same thing... I can't really see Andrew Zimmern cooking up anything "normal". Bread made with flour from ground beetles... Blood s
26 FlyASAGuy2005: SLC is okay I guess. Functional, but the regional operation needs some work. DL's already invested in temporary "holding areas" on the ramp level to
27 PSU.DTW.SCE: MSP has excellent facilities for the regional operators. Something that is not the case as you said in SLC and and ATL. That is a carry-over from NW w
28 mayor: You've got to remember that most of the jetways on C & D are leftovers from Western.....D-1 was the only gate that was Delta and C-1 before D con
29 ckfred: This is all good, but one thing to remember. You still need a national fast food chain that has food for kids. Concourse D at MIA has a lot of South F
30 FlyASAGuy2005: I was talking about Atlanta in that part. Should have added some sort of break but all of this: is ATL.
31 FlyASAGuy2005: Let's not forget, no one can confirm Mickey D's is going away. This was only suggested by someone and then others ran with it. Also, there will alway