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Sol Saab 340 Crashes In Argentina  
User currently offlineEZEIZA From Argentina, joined Aug 2004, 4967 posts, RR: 25
Posted (3 years 4 months 1 week 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 13494 times:

So far, all we know is that the plane went down in the Rio Negro province, and that the flight was from Comodoro Rivadavia to Neuquen. This is very recent news, so there is still not too much info available, as rescue teams have not been able to reach the site yet.
The aircraft is LV-CEJ. Very, very sad day for Argentine aviation  http://www.clarin.com/sociedad/Cayo-...ersonas-Rio-Negro_0_482951999.html


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User currently offlineAF086 From France, joined Jan 2007, 1060 posts, RR: 8
Reply 1, posted (3 years 4 months 1 week 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 13435 times:

Very sad news indeed. How was the weather down there? How is the terrain in the area?

Hope the rescue teams get there quickly and wish everyone survives this accident.



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User currently offlinecalibansa333 From United States of America, joined Sep 2009, 208 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (3 years 4 months 1 week 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 13396 times:

wow, very scary stuff. Hoping for the best at this point.

User currently offlineEZEIZA From Argentina, joined Aug 2004, 4967 posts, RR: 25
Reply 3, posted (3 years 4 months 1 week 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 13376 times:

Nothing official yet, but it seems that there are no survivors among the 22 people on board (19 pax + 3 crew). Again, this is not confirmed officially. Hope these rumours are not true. According to a witness, they saw a "ball of fire" coming down from the sky, but we all know how reliable witnesses can be, so it's possibly wrong.

btw, the flight was to Comodoro, not from Comodoro. The plane took off at 20:08 and last comm was at 20:50 where pparently the pilot declared an emergency. This does not look good at all  

edit: Media is reporting that the emeregency call had something to do with ice formation

[Edited 2011-05-18 21:20:01]


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User currently offlineSCL767 From Chile, joined Feb 2006, 8822 posts, RR: 5
Reply 4, posted (3 years 4 months 1 week 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 13309 times:
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Quoting EZEIZA (Reply 3):
btw, the flight was to Comodoro, not from Comodoro. The plane took off at 20:08 and last comm was at 20:50 where pparently the pilot declared an emergency. This does not look good at all

Very sad news indeed. I hope that rescue workers are able to reach the site very soon. The news here says that the flight was operating COR-MDZ-NQN-CRD and that the weather there is cloudy with light precipitation in the area with a temperature of 2 degrees.


User currently offlineEZEIZA From Argentina, joined Aug 2004, 4967 posts, RR: 25
Reply 5, posted (3 years 4 months 1 week 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 13299 times:

It is now confirmed that there are no survivors. Although this is not an official statement, it is being reported by the hospital director closest to the crash site that has just been there. RIP.


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User currently offlinewilco737 From Greenland, joined Jun 2004, 9041 posts, RR: 76
Reply 6, posted (3 years 4 months 1 week 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 13147 times:
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Ah damn, that's sad news  

RIP

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User currently offlineCamiloA380 From Sweden, joined Feb 2008, 486 posts, RR: 25
Reply 7, posted (3 years 4 months 1 week 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 13010 times:

Very very sad news....a sad day in aviation for our brothers in Argentina.

RIP for all the victims.



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User currently onlineAR385 From Mexico, joined Nov 2003, 6218 posts, RR: 31
Reply 8, posted (3 years 4 months 1 week 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 12670 times:
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Quoting EZEIZA (Thread starter):
Very sad news indeed. How was the weather down there? How is the terrain in the area?

The terrain as described by the media is "arid" 18 adult passengers, 1 minor, 1 cabin crew and 2 pilots.

Quoting EZEIZA (Reply 3):
btw, the flight was to Comodoro, not from Comodoro. The plane took off at 20:08 and last comm was at 20:50 where pparently the pilot declared an emergency. This does not look good at all

FLight SOL 5428. A SAAB 340. No, no survivors. There were 9 pasengers that boarded in MDZ. The plane crashed in small town of Prahuaniyeu, 250 kms From the city of General Roca.

According to TV channel C5N the last call of the from the Cockpit Crew was an emergency declaration due to icing, asking for landing immediately, which came at 20:50. The plane had taken off from Neuquén at 20:08.

The closest rural town is "Los Menucos," 40 kms from the crash site, whose firefighters and hospital director, Ismael Alí, were the first to reach the site after a person from Prahuaniyeu, 40 kms from the crash reached the town and said he had seen a plane crashing . Mr Alí has said that the airplane is in pieces, destroyed, on fire and charred.

The flight was scheduled for 1hr. 50 mins and had fuel for 3hrs. and 30 min.

http://www.losandes.com.ar/notas/201...as-bordo-sobrevivientes-569115.asp

http://www.mdzol.com/mdz/nota/296521...onfirmo-que-no-hay-sobrevivientes/

My prayers got to the lost ones and to their families

[Edited 2011-05-19 00:24:46]

[Edited 2011-05-19 00:27:41]

[Edited 2011-05-19 00:29:33]

User currently offlinePlymSpotter From Spain, joined Jun 2004, 11655 posts, RR: 60
Reply 9, posted (3 years 4 months 1 week 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 12265 times:

This is really sad news.  

I flew this little Saab between Cordoba and Rosario late last year. SOL came across as a small and friendly operation who put a lot of effort into passenger care, and it feels really sad to think that the happy crew who I met could have been involved in this.



RIP to all those who perished and condolences to their loved ones.


Dan



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User currently offlineTGIF From Sweden, joined Apr 2008, 276 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (3 years 4 months 1 week 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 12033 times:

Terrible news!
My thoughts go out to the families of those involved.

What was the weather like in the region?
Is there an enhanced risk for ice formation in such conditions?


User currently offlineMarambio From UK - Scotland, joined Oct 2004, 1160 posts, RR: 25
Reply 11, posted (3 years 4 months 1 week 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 11897 times:

So far nothing is official save for the death list - it has been confirmed that 22 people (19 pax + 1 F/A + 2 pilots) perished.

I just saw on TV a guy who happened to be changing a flat tire off a road close to Los Menucos (RN) who said it was a very nice night - cool temperatures, no clouds, almost no wind, when he saw a "fire ball" falling down the skies. 20 minutes before crashing, the flight declared emergency - don't know the reasons.

Right now the only thing we have is pure media speculation - it will take some time before we know the actual reasons behind this accident. It is a very sad day for aviation in Argentina.

Saludos,
Marambio



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User currently offlineMarambio From UK - Scotland, joined Oct 2004, 1160 posts, RR: 25
Reply 12, posted (3 years 4 months 1 week 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 11833 times:

These are 8R's official press releases regarding the accident:

"SOL Líneas Aéreas informs that SOL flight 5428, covering the Córdoba - Mendoza - Neuquén - Comodoro Rivadavia route, took off at 20:08 LT from Neuquén, in order to reach its final destination of Comodoro Rivadavia. At 20:50 LT took place the last communication between the airliner and the ground, notifying it declared an emergency.
The journey was supposed to last 1:50 hours, and the plane carried enough fuel for 3:30 hours of flying. The people involved were 18 adults, one underage person, and three crewmembers.
The airline has already begun implementing protocols related to such situation, informing all airports involved, the National Civil Aviation Administration and the Federal Secretary of Transportation.
For relatives of passengers for flight 5428, a special telephone line has been established - 0810-122-7765.
As soon as the company gets more information, it will be disclosed to the public.
Buenos Aires, 18 May 2011"

"SOL Líneas Aéreas informs that civil defense staff, firefighters and provincial police officers still are at the crash area rescuing corpses. Given that some inaccurate information has been given out by the media, the company once again states that there is no evidence regarding the reasons behind the accident, which will be investigated by the Accidents Board of the National Civil Aviation Administration.
As soon as the company gets more information, it will be disclosed to the public.
Buenos Aires, 19 May 2011"

Saludos,
Marambio



Aerolíneas Argentinas - La Argentina que levanta vuelo.
User currently offlineworldliner From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2005, 275 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (3 years 4 months 1 week 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 11769 times:

Awful news, Thoughts go out to the family of those involved

RIP.



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User currently onlineA388 From Netherlands Antilles, joined May 2001, 9832 posts, RR: 11
Reply 14, posted (3 years 4 months 1 week 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 11688 times:

I just saw it on CNN, very sad news. My thoughts and prayers go out to the families and casualties involved.

A388


User currently offlineMarambio From UK - Scotland, joined Oct 2004, 1160 posts, RR: 25
Reply 15, posted (3 years 4 months 1 week 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 11688 times:

Clarín.com provides a map of the crash location:

http://www.clarin.com/sociedad/TRAGEDIA-AEREA-ocurrio-accidente-TN_CLAIMA20110519_0102_19.jpg.

Saludos,
Marambio



Aerolíneas Argentinas - La Argentina que levanta vuelo.
User currently offlineferminbrif From Venezuela, joined Dec 2010, 102 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (3 years 4 months 1 week 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 11690 times:

what a terrible day today. a couple of planes down today and a lot of casualties as well. R.I.P. for all those on board 8R Saab 340 who died and my condolences to their families.....

User currently offlineogre727 From Spain, joined Feb 2005, 721 posts, RR: 2
Reply 17, posted (3 years 4 months 1 week 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 11620 times:

What a sad day indeed. My thoughts are with the families.


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User currently offlineAF086 From France, joined Jan 2007, 1060 posts, RR: 8
Reply 18, posted (3 years 4 months 1 week 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 11540 times:

Quoting Marambio (Reply 11):
very nice night - cool temperatures, no clouds, almost no wind, when he saw a "fire ball" falling down the skies. 20 minutes before crashing, the flight declared emergency - don't know the reasons.

Marcos, does Sol have a good reputation regarding the upkeeping of their fleet?



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User currently offlineLVTMB From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 391 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (3 years 4 months 1 week 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 11374 times:

Thoughts and prayers for all involved  

LVTMB


User currently offlineMarambio From UK - Scotland, joined Oct 2004, 1160 posts, RR: 25
Reply 20, posted (3 years 4 months 1 week 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 11170 times:

Quoting AF086 (Reply 18):
Marcos, does Sol have a good reputation regarding the upkeeping of their fleet?

As far as I know, yes. The airline is run by serious people, and until this they haven't had any problems. I haven't heard much about 8R's maintenace, though.



Aerolíneas Argentinas - La Argentina que levanta vuelo.
User currently offlineULMFlyer From Brazil, joined Sep 2006, 475 posts, RR: 1
Reply 21, posted (3 years 4 months 1 week 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 10747 times:

Quoting Marambio (Reply 11):
very nice night - cool temperatures, no clouds, almost no wind

Is it possible for icing severe enough to bring down this turboprop to occur in clear skies with no layers?



Let's go Pens!
User currently offlineAeroflot001 From Argentina, joined Oct 2009, 403 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (3 years 4 months 1 week 23 hours ago) and read 9644 times:

Found out about this tragic accident on my way to school this morning over the radio, I am not sure what station it is here in Miami but my dad is always listening to it and approx at 7:10AM every morning there is a 5 minute segment with news from Buenos Aires and Naturally this was the headline. Ive been following news all day whenever I could at school.

Sol always seemed like a small yet reliable airline and it is sad to see this. RIP to everyone onboard hopefully we wont be dealing with another argentine accident for years to come.

Is this the first major commercial aircraft accident in Argentina since LAPA 3142?


User currently offlineAeroflot001 From Argentina, joined Oct 2009, 403 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (3 years 4 months 1 week 23 hours ago) and read 9567 times:

On clarin.com a picture of the aircraft was uploaded by a passenger who disembarked in Mendoza on the first leg of the flight. http://www.clarin.com/sociedad/Trage...ciaron-fallecidos_0_483551857.html
Gives me goosebumps to look at this picture.


User currently offlinePu752 From Uruguay, joined Mar 2005, 584 posts, RR: 1
Reply 24, posted (3 years 4 months 1 week 22 hours ago) and read 8778 times:

RIP to all involved indeed.

25 Post contains links Marambio : Yes. The National Civil Aviation Administration (ANAC) has disclosed the crash's exact location: S 41º 06’ 07” W 67º 56’ 33”, between the s
26 Post contains images AR385 : Picture of the crash site: Not survivable obviously. A passenger list with the names and a small profile of each passenger and crew member has been re
27 EMBQA : Sad day for those of us that work the Saab 340. It's just an outstanding airframe. I'm very interested to learn what happened with this event. I've be
28 garpd : Crikey, there's nothing left! One hopes it was quick and painless.
29 goblin211 : How do you overestimate fuel by that much? 1 or 2 hundred gallons maybe but that's a little too much. RIP.
30 Post contains images AR385 : I suppose that in a region of Argentina which is vast and unpopulated, you need to carry a lot of fuel, in case you need to actually return to the de
31 penguins : A plane crash is obviously a horrible way to perish in the first place, but this seems like an extremely violent way to go. R.I.P. To all those who di
32 Marambio : As AR385 said, Patagonia is extremely under-populated and there are not many airports. I'm just guessing that when flying NQN-CRD your alternative ai
33 EZEIZA : Black boxes found. Let´s hope this clears things up as to the causes of the accidents. It's all very strange, first the mayday call due to ice format
34 AR385 : According to Telefé Internacional, the emergency call, apart from the plane requesting to descend because of ice, also mentioning that the pilot was
35 AR385 : New info: The plane was a flight level 190 when it declared emergency. It requested to descen to flight level 140 "to get out of icing conditions" A w
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