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Can OPF Ever Get Pax Service?  
User currently offlinejonathanxxxx From United States of America, joined Feb 2011, 673 posts, RR: 1
Posted (3 years 3 months 4 days ago) and read 3869 times:

So as the thread title implies, can OPF sustain pax service? I mean maybe a DL flight to ATL on a CRJ or something? Or at least charter airlines or something?

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User currently offlineairliner777 From United States of America, joined May 2000, 493 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (3 years 3 months 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 3772 times:

We could only wish, but without terminal facilities nor Dade County approval so far, I don't see it happening anytime soon.      

User currently offlinejonathanxxxx From United States of America, joined Feb 2011, 673 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (3 years 3 months 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 3726 times:

Well if they were to build a terminal could it sustain and be profitable?

User currently onlinemaxpower1954 From United States of America, joined Sep 2008, 1088 posts, RR: 7
Reply 3, posted (3 years 3 months 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 3715 times:

The question is...why? MIA is five miles away!

User currently offlineInnocuousFox From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 2805 posts, RR: 14
Reply 4, posted (3 years 3 months 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 3657 times:

Quoting maxpower1954 (Reply 3):
The question is...why? MIA is five miles away!

I opened the thread not knowing exactly where OPF was. I figured it was just a smaller airport in a smaller community far away from anything. You know... typical desire for pax service. When I got to this reply, it became a faceplam moment.



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User currently offlineBrick From United States of America, joined Aug 1999, 1580 posts, RR: 7
Reply 5, posted (3 years 3 months 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 3623 times:

5 miles away...sometimes can take 45 minutes though. Traffic in, around, and between these two airports can be difficult.


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User currently offlineEA CO AS From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 13547 posts, RR: 62
Reply 6, posted (3 years 3 months 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 3590 times:
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Quoting jonathanxxxx (Thread starter):
So as the thread title implies, can OPF sustain pax service?

Actually, the thread title asks if OPF can GET service. "Get" and "sustain" are two entirely different animals. Can OPF sustain nonstop service to ATL, DCA, PHL, LGA, or any other city? Sure, possibly - there may be enough traffic there.

But will it GET it? Probably not, as there's no reason for airlines to pursue it with MIA already capably serving the area, and the costs of keeping one or two flights to a small place like OPF would be hideously expensive.



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User currently offlineUnited_fan From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 7483 posts, RR: 7
Reply 7, posted (3 years 3 months 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 3450 times:

That,and I don't think OPF is one of the more 'affluent' parts of the Miami area. At least that was my observation after visiting there.


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User currently offlinebjorn14 From Norway, joined Feb 2010, 3411 posts, RR: 2
Reply 8, posted (3 years 3 months 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 3415 times:

If Boca Raton (BCT) can't get service then I highly doubt OPF will. IMHumbleO.


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User currently offlineUnitedTristar From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (3 years 3 months 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 3292 times:

Quoting maxpower1954 (Reply 3):

The question is...why? MIA is five miles away!


Because MIA is expensive as hell to operate from because of the terminal rental prices are sky high!

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User currently offlinebjorn14 From Norway, joined Feb 2010, 3411 posts, RR: 2
Reply 10, posted (3 years 3 months 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 3095 times:

Quoting UnitedTristar (Reply 9):
Because MIA is expensive as hell to operate from because of the terminal rental prices are sky high!

Yes, I don't think Miami-Dade (which owns OPF) will be bending over backwards to allow commercial service there when they have new terminal to payoff @ MIA. It also appears some monkey biz is going on at OPF also.

http://saveopalockaairport.com/



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User currently offlinegoblin211 From United States of America, joined Jun 2010, 1209 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (3 years 3 months 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 2933 times:

I've lived in Florida for years and I didn't know OPF existed. OPF can't hold a candle to MIA thanks to MIA themselves. Maybe the occasional emergency landing though.


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User currently offlineAeroflot001 From Argentina, joined Oct 2009, 400 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (3 years 3 months 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 2822 times:

Quoting jonathanxxxx (Thread starter):
So as the thread title implies, can OPF sustain pax service? I mean maybe a DL flight to ATL on a CRJ or something? Or at least charter airlines or something?
Quoting United_fan (Reply 7):

That,and I don't think OPF is one of the more 'affluent' parts of the Miami area. At least that was my observation after visiting there.

It isnt one of the best areas at all and quite frankly even as a Miami Native I dont like driving through Opa Locka at all. MIA is far to close and even if MIA has high landing fees and parking fees the airlines will continue to use MIA.

Another airport which one day that has more hope of getting maybe a few Regional jets or maybe even an AA 737 one day is TMB Kendall Tamiami Airpot here in Southwest Miami Dade which has grown tremendously in the last 20 years. General Aviation and Private traffic is quite heavy at the airport so seeing some commercial traffic in the future is slightly possible however Im not sure those in the surrounding communities would be thrilled such as those in Country walk and the Hammocks.

The airport is 20 Miles driving distance from MIA
http://maps.google.com/maps?q=google...ps&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&hl=en&tab=wl


User currently offlineUSXguy From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 1013 posts, RR: 5
Reply 13, posted (3 years 3 months 3 days ago) and read 2324 times:

Boca actually prohibits scheduled service, and even part 135 air taxi ops (that are scheduled)


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User currently offlineUnited_fan From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 7483 posts, RR: 7
Reply 14, posted (3 years 3 months 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 2208 times:

Quoting Aeroflot001 (Reply 12):
t isnt one of the best areas at all and quite frankly even as a Miami Native I dont like driving through Opa Locka at all

I visited OPF many times to see whats there and get some pics on my vacation down here. Never felt unsafe,just not very nice.



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User currently offlinebjorn14 From Norway, joined Feb 2010, 3411 posts, RR: 2
Reply 15, posted (3 years 3 months 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 2175 times:

Quoting USXguy (Reply 13):
Boca actually prohibits scheduled service, and even part 135 air taxi ops (that are scheduled)

Hmmm....they legally can't do that if they receive any Federal funding.



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User currently onlinemaxpower1954 From United States of America, joined Sep 2008, 1088 posts, RR: 7
Reply 16, posted (3 years 3 months 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 2136 times:

Quoting Aeroflot001 (Reply 12):
The airport is 20 Miles driving distance from MIA

?????

By Google maps, from MIA to OPF is right up Le Jeune Road...8.3 miles.

Russ Farris


User currently onlinesteex From United States of America, joined Jun 2007, 1633 posts, RR: 9
Reply 17, posted (3 years 3 months 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 2131 times:

Quoting maxpower1954 (Reply 16):

By Google maps, from MIA to OPF is right up Le Jeune Road...8.3 miles.

He was referring to TMB, not OPF.


User currently offlineUSXguy From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 1013 posts, RR: 5
Reply 18, posted (3 years 3 months 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 2066 times:

Quoting bjorn14 (Reply 15):
Hmmm....they legally can't do that if they receive any Federal funding.

Stuart, Florida has a commercial ban in place, and for some reason I keep thinking Tetorboro also has this restriction too.



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User currently offlinebeeweel15 From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 1751 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (3 years 3 months 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 2042 times:

Well as per the website OPF is a reviler for MIA. Plus there are several FBO's located there along with other services.

http://www.miami-airport.com/opalocka.asp

There are also a lot of aircraft maintenance and scrapping done there


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User currently onlinemaxpower1954 From United States of America, joined Sep 2008, 1088 posts, RR: 7
Reply 20, posted (3 years 3 months 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 2001 times:

Quoting steex (Reply 17):
Quoting maxpower1954 (Reply 16):

By Google maps, from MIA to OPF is right up Le Jeune Road...8.3 miles.


He was referring to TMB, not OPF.

Oops, my mistake guys - a thousand pardons! Didn't read carefully enough...


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