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QF 744 To PER  
User currently offlineqf744fan From Australia, joined Jan 2007, 120 posts, RR: 0
Posted (2 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 6882 times:

Hey guys, does anyone happen to have the flight numbers for the 744 service SYD - PER today, or the return trip?

Thanks guys

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User currently offlinetietkej From Germany, joined Jun 2009, 71 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (2 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 6870 times:

That should be QF581. They are slightly delayed, too.


Cheers.

[Edited 2011-05-29 19:54:43]

User currently offlineqf744fan From Australia, joined Jan 2007, 120 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (2 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 6861 times:

You're a gem, thank you very much  

User currently offlineditzyboy From Australia, joined Feb 2008, 700 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (2 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 6315 times:

Quoting qf744fan (Thread starter):
does anyone happen to have the flight numbers for the 744 service SYD - PER today

That's currently the only solely domestic 744 rotation - it should be easy to track!


User currently offlineSandgroper From Australia, joined Mar 2008, 70 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (2 years 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 3061 times:

Only because Virgin Australia have their lovely newer A330 flying PER-SYD and return daily now:

Very Classy advert we have on TV/Foxtel here in Perth now.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bIz-Z0zBPuI

[Edited 2011-05-31 03:18:01]


Sandgroper
User currently offlineescapehere From Australia, joined Jan 2011, 74 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (2 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 2834 times:

Quoting Sandgroper (Reply 4):

Very Classy advert we have on TV/Foxtel here in Perth now.

If their flight attendants look like her I might have to start flying DJ more often...


User currently offlineEK413 From Australia, joined Nov 2003, 4692 posts, RR: 4
Reply 6, posted (2 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 2791 times:

Quoting Sandgroper (Reply 4):
Only because Virgin Australia have their lovely newer A330 flying PER-SYD and return daily now:

Newer? Did I miss something here... The aircraft are second hand EK birds... BUT they will be receiving another 2 NEW from the factory...

EK413



Good evening, ladies and gentlemen. We are tonight’s entertainment!
User currently offlineKent350787 From Australia, joined May 2008, 955 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (2 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 2624 times:

Quoting EK413 (Reply 6):
Newer? Did I miss something here... The aircraft are second hand EK birds... BUT they will be receiving another 2 NEW from the factory...

The non-ER 744s are almost 20 years old, aren't they - so the ex-Ek birds are newer!  


User currently offlinevhebb From Australia, joined Apr 2011, 155 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (2 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 2595 times:

But when comparing DJ and QFs domestic A332s QFs are no more than 2yrs old...

User currently offlineKent350787 From Australia, joined May 2008, 955 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (2 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 2556 times:

Quoting vhebb (Reply 8):
But when comparing DJ and QFs domestic A332s QFs are no more than 2yrs old...

No question - but QF has clearly decided that the "Jumbo" is a more marketable proposition, as well as allowing ti to increase capacity.

I like how the media were promoting it as something of a big thing - of course, the 743's were at the core of the transcon route at the end of their QF life....


User currently offlineEK413 From Australia, joined Nov 2003, 4692 posts, RR: 4
Reply 10, posted (2 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 2533 times:

Quoting Kent350787 (Reply 7):
The non-ER 744s are almost 20 years old, aren't they

Wrong again   The B744ER fleet is approximately 8 years old...  

EK413



Good evening, ladies and gentlemen. We are tonight’s entertainment!
User currently onlinetullamarine From Australia, joined Aug 1999, 1427 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (2 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 2524 times:

Quoting EK413 (Reply 10):
Wrong again The B744ER fleet is approximately 8 years old...

EK413

Kent was right. The 744s on SYD-PER are the older non-ER versions in 2 class config typically though some have W in which case high tier FFs in Y get to use the W seats.

The 744 is being used as a prestige vehicle against DJ. Unfortunately the flight times are pretty useless so most business people won't access it anyway as a mid-morning departure ex-SYD is not much use except during daily saving (WA has no daylight saving so you arrive about 1 hour after you depart.) The 744 flight really should depart around 8AM to be of a real benefit to business.

The 744 is a reaction by QF to the DJ threat. Had DJ not introduced the A332, there is no way QF would be paying this sort of attention to SYD-PER and pax would still expect to be flying on domestic config A332s and ancient 763s.


User currently onlineCXB77L From Australia, joined Feb 2009, 2540 posts, RR: 5
Reply 12, posted (2 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 2459 times:
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Quoting Kent350787 (Reply 7):
The non-ER 744s are almost 20 years old, aren't they - so the ex-Ek birds are newer!

Not all of them. VH-OJS, VH-OJT and VH-OJU were delivered between 1999-2000.



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User currently offlineKent350787 From Australia, joined May 2008, 955 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (2 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 2433 times:

OK then - "16 of the 20 non-ER 744s are 19 years old or more, and the other 4 are more than 10, so pretty much all of these are older than the ex-EK A330s"

Satisfied?  


User currently offlineAirvan00 From Australia, joined Oct 2008, 744 posts, RR: 1
Reply 14, posted (2 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 2216 times:

Quoting tullamarine (Reply 11):
The 744s on SYD-PER are the older non-ER versions in 2 class config typically though some have W in which case high tier FFs in Y get to use the W seats.

Nupe. On the first 3 days P,Q and S have flown the route and they are all 4 class aircraft.


User currently offlinethegeek From Australia, joined Nov 2007, 2638 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (2 years 10 months 3 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 1951 times:

I thought the red eyes where the busiest flights, and also the most appropriate to have the international config. Why aren't these flights getting the international config 744s?

That would also tie in with a return flight departing around 7am which as someone else has mentioned is more useful for business passengers.

QF seem to be reaching for what to do with these planes, actually. They have 7 class planes flying:
SYD-SIN-FRA: 3 planes
SYD-NRT: 2 planes
BNE-LAX: 2 planes

And 13 3/4 class planes flying:
SYD-BKK-LHR: 3 planes
MEL-HKG-LHR: 3 planes
SYD-HKG: 1 plane
SYD-PER: 1 plane

let's say 2 down for maintenance
Did I leave anything out?

EDIT: I did leave out the 6 ERs
SYD-EZE: 1 plane
SYD-JNB: 2 planes
SYD-LAX: 2 planes
SYD-DFW: 1 plane
MEL-LAX (4/week): still ties up 2 planes

Obvious a non-ER has to do a number of the flights which would prefer an ER often. They still have some bored looking 744s.

Doh!

[Edited 2011-06-01 19:16:49]

User currently offlinezkpilot From New Zealand, joined Mar 2006, 4773 posts, RR: 9
Reply 16, posted (2 years 10 months 3 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 1908 times:

Quoting thegeek (Reply 15):
let's say 2 down for maintenance
1 being reconfigured
2 planes looking bored
Did I leave anything out?

JNB is often not ER



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User currently offline9MMPD From Australia, joined Oct 2005, 280 posts, RR: 1
Reply 17, posted (2 years 10 months 3 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 1796 times:

Quoting Airvan00 (Reply 14):
Did I leave anything out?


QF51/52 BNE-SIN-BNE is a 744 as well

[Edited 2011-06-01 22:52:33]

User currently offlineAirvan00 From Australia, joined Oct 2008, 744 posts, RR: 1
Reply 18, posted (2 years 10 months 3 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 1738 times:

Quoting zkpilot (Reply 16):

JNB is often not ER

  

In the last 30days, only once it has been an ER, so you can put the JNB flight firmly into the non ER camp.


User currently offlinethegeek From Australia, joined Nov 2007, 2638 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (2 years 10 months 3 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 1728 times:

Quoting 9MMPD (Reply 17):

QF51/52 BNE-SIN-BNE is a 744 as well

Interesting. Not sold as first though.

I think there was a thread about "Why isn't this flight a 744?" a number of months ago.


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