goblin211 From United States of America, joined Jun 2010, 1209 posts, RR: 0 Posted (2 years 2 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 1724 times:
A Canadian friend of mine said that AC was having some labor issues. I had my doubts since I didn't see anything posted here. Is this true? She also speculates it might lead to strike level. This is ENTIRELY her opinion. I dismissed it immediately after hearing that but then again, I don't know much about AC to really say for sure.
aamd11 From UK - Wales, joined Nov 2001, 1040 posts, RR: 1 Reply 1, posted (2 years 2 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 1639 times:
Well, the ticketing and customer service staff represented by the CAW union recently voted for voted to strike action to take place on June 13th if negotiations don't work out in the coming weeks. The pilots group is also in contract negotiations at the minute, I may be mistaken but I think they recently voted against a proposed collective agreement.
I think this is a year where a large number of Air Canada's collective agreements expire, so there are lots of negotiations going on with lots of different sections of the workforce. I suppose that could potentially be seen as being a "labour issue" with so many different negotiations all going on at the same time.
Viscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 21679 posts, RR: 23 Reply 2, posted (2 years 2 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 1619 times:
Quoting aamd11 (Reply 1): Well, the ticketing and customer service staff represented by the CAW union recently voted for voted to strike action to take place on June 13th if negotiations don't work out in the coming weeks. The pilots group is also in contract negotiations at the minute, I may be mistaken but I think they recently voted against a proposed collective agreement.
Skywatcher From Canada, joined Sep 2002, 442 posts, RR: 4 Reply 3, posted (2 years 2 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 1601 times:
The sustainability of defined pension plans is the "elephant in the room". Not surprisingly, the organized labour groups at AC want to keep them in their current form forever. Equally unsurprisingly, management wants to cut back corporate exposure to funding them (more years needed to collect full benefits/higher employee contributions etc.) or switch new hires over to defined contribution plans (i.e. beneficiary shoulders more risk).
In my opinion this issue has much larger implications for all economically developed nations in general.
I personally feel that defined benefit plans are a priviledge that will become harder and harder to justify as time marches on.
DualQual From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 642 posts, RR: 1 Reply 4, posted (2 years 2 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 1435 times:
Quoting Skywatcher (Reply 3): I personally feel that defined benefit plans are a priviledge that will become harder and harder to justify as time marches on.
One wonders if the CEO's and VP's will also be switched to a defined contribution plan or if magically, the money will always be there to fund the Golden Parachutes.
MattRB From Canada, joined Apr 2005, 1624 posts, RR: 11 Reply 5, posted (2 years 2 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 1366 times:
All of the unions representing a majority of Air Canada employees are currently in negotiations for new collective agreements (ACPA, CUPE, CAW & IAMAW). Contracts negotiated in the past years have all expired as of this spring.
CAW, representing the Customer & Sales Agents went directly to conciliation talks with the company, in place of negotiating and will be in a strike position as of June 13.
ACPA went a different route and negotiated a tentative agreement outside of normal bargaining and it was soundly rejected by the membership. The contract was so bad as to result in a recall of their Master Executive Council chairman and two or three MEC members.
I haven't heard anything regarding CUPE (In-Flight Services). The IAM met with the company to exchange agendas last month and hasn't been heard from since.
Quoting DualQual (Reply 4): One wonders if the CEO's and VP's will also be switched to a defined contribution plan or if magically, the money will always be there to fund the Golden Parachutes.
Calin is scheduled to get a C$5 million retention bonus next year - draw your own conclusions.
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goblin211 From United States of America, joined Jun 2010, 1209 posts, RR: 0 Reply 7, posted (2 years 2 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 1217 times:
Interesting. I didn't know AC contracts were up for renewal. That explains it then. but yeah, I agree there really doesn't seem like much of a labor issue just a process of negotiation that hopefully will work out in the end.
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