United Airline From Hong Kong, joined Jan 2001, 8792 posts, RR: 17 Posted (11 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 2808 times:
Most B 747's Upper Decks are actually Business Class Seats. However, why don't they move their First Class on the Top Floor, and have the Business Class on the First Floor? I understand that some of the Business Class Seats are actually between First and Economy Class.
Upper decks are usually quieter. And by putting the First Class up there, it can provide the First Class Travellors a much quieter environment. But why don't they do that?
USflt1778 From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 268 posts, RR: 2 Reply 1, posted (11 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 2720 times:
The nose section is much roomier than the upper deck. There is more room for overhead storage, and generally there is a large open area in the middle of the cabin providing even more space. The galley is also more spacious than those I have seen at the back of most upper decks.
You also have at least a small amount of traffic into and out of the cockpit on the upper deck. On the main level, the F cabin is accessed only by the F passengers and the f/a's that are working there.
Additionally, keep in mind that a handicapped passenger would have trouble going up the stairs (most airlines with Biz on the upper deck usually have a few rows on the main deck too). I worked for a medical assistance company and we frequently purchased F class seats for people with broken legs, back injuries, etc.
Max Q From United States of America, joined May 2001, 3293 posts, RR: 19 Reply 2, posted (11 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 2691 times:
Downstairs is actually a lot quieter in front
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FlyVirgin744 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 1313 posts, RR: 1 Reply 5, posted (11 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 2662 times:
Hugo From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 390 posts, RR: 0 Reply 6, posted (11 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 2637 times:
The nose section of the 747 is really the nicest place to sit. There is less traffic, one does not have to climb a stairway, one can disembark first, and it feels more exclusive. That said, the upper deck is also a nice area.
AndyEastMids From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 996 posts, RR: 2 Reply 8, posted (11 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 2606 times:
IMHO the upper deck is far better than the pointy end. Up there, you get the feeling of being in a small exclusive airplane rather than lumped at one end of a large airplane. Albeit that the walls taper, I also like the space and surface between the side of the seat and the wall on the upper deck. Last flew, and will next fly, SQ bus class and always ask for the upper deck.
Lewis From Greece, joined Jul 1999, 3448 posts, RR: 5 Reply 12, posted (11 years 10 months 3 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 2554 times:
The FC in the nose section has door 1 (most of the times) for embarkment and disembarkment so the FC passengers dont have to walk through business class or economy.
Mlsrar From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 1417 posts, RR: 9 Reply 13, posted (11 years 10 months 3 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 2526 times:
Why did Ansett and a few others, BA I believe decide to place economy seats upstairs?
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Captaink From Mexico, joined May 2001, 5093 posts, RR: 13 Reply 14, posted (11 years 10 months 3 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 2522 times:
Man.. i have to thank FlyVirgin744 cause i didnt relaize what the upper deck on a 747 looks like... Major claustophoiba if u ask me... Downstairs forward cabin is definitely first class material.
TonyBurr From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 983 posts, RR: 0 Reply 15, posted (11 years 10 months 3 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 2514 times:
I have flown F on several airlines including the picture LH and SQ. NO COMPARIOSN when F is on the main deck. LH is nice on the upper, but much more cramped feeling then the rest on the main deck.
FTraveler From United States of America, joined May 2001, 72 posts, RR: 0 Reply 16, posted (11 years 10 months 3 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 2503 times:
In the old days when Pan Am dominated international air travel, the upper desk was used as a first class lounge. During meals, seats would be swiveled and card tables would be extended to create several (think it was 4) dining tables that sat 4 persons and gourmet meals would be served, course by course. No PTVs, no flat beds, but it sure was a wonderful experience.
RWally From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 555 posts, RR: 4 Reply 18, posted (11 years 10 months 3 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 2492 times:
It depends on the config. and airline. Some airlines have First on the UD. Others have Business on the U.D. and second deck.
Blink182 From Azerbaijan, joined Oct 1999, 5430 posts, RR: 19 Reply 20, posted (11 years 10 months 3 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 2461 times:
EL AL has first class on the upper deck and my grandparents flew first while we flew business in the nose section on the lower deck. I went to visit them on the upper deck and the lowerdeck had a hell of a lot more room. The nose section on the lowerdeck is also kind of comfy. Unlike the upperdeck, you have more space to put a beverage table.
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Spaceman From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 534 posts, RR: 0 Reply 21, posted (11 years 10 months 3 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 2438 times:
When Pan Am was flying no PTVs or flat beds even existed. They didn't have the technology at the time for thoses things. Therefore you cannot blame them for not having thoses things. Luft Hansa uses their upper deck for first class.
NorthStarDC4M From Canada, joined Apr 2000, 2804 posts, RR: 40 Reply 22, posted (11 years 10 months 3 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 2421 times:
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another problem wiht the upper deck is that because its further from the center of motion (a line that runs thru the cabin lengthwise) you feel motions much more. People with inner ear problems can get very very motion sick on the upper deck of 747s.
Also whats been said about the nose and sapce is completly true, and you cant even hear the engines up there dugin cruise, the A/C mutes it out
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United Airline From Hong Kong, joined Jan 2001, 8792 posts, RR: 17 Reply 23, posted (11 years 10 months 3 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 2424 times:
In those days, the idea of Commerical Airliines is to fasten everyone on their seats and take them from one place to another. Besides, thy didn't have the technology at that time for things like PTVs, Flat Beds etc.
BarfBag From India, joined Mar 2001, 2050 posts, RR: 6 Reply 24, posted (11 years 10 months 3 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 2418 times:
"In those days, the idea of Commerical Airliines is to fasten everyone on their seats and take them from one place to another."
Gee! You mean thats not the idea of commercial airlines anymore ?!!
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25 United Airline: What I mean is.... All they have in their mind is............ Fasten everybody on their seats and fly them from one place to another. They do not have
26 Gregg: I'm glad they have biz on the 2nd floor in most cases, I like the upper cabin (especially in a --300 or -400 where it is larger). It does feel like a
27 BarfBag: "What I mean is.... All they have in their mind is............ Fasten everybody on their seats and fly them from one place to another. They do not hav
28 B747-437B: When Pan Am was flying no PTVs or flat beds even existed. They didn't have the technology at the time for thoses things. Therefore you cannot blame th
29 United Airline: I suppose they have the technology to provide flat beds, PTVs etc. Though not as nice and advanced as today's maybe.
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