JOEYCAPPS From United States of America, joined Jul 2008, 207 posts, RR: 1 Posted (3 years 5 months 3 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 29252 times:
I am planning to visit my family in a few months, along with my wife and newborn son. The first leg is AZ from LAX-MXP nonstop, continuing onto CRV. I frequently fly from LAX-JFK [sometimes several times a month] but usually, I have well over 4 hours to spend at ATL, so I can wait it out until I reach ATL. But on a leg as long as LAX-MXP, which I've done BEFORE becoming a smoker [stupidest decision I've ever made], I doubt I can resist.
I was curious if anyone has attempted to, or successfully used an electronic cigarette on a commercial flight? It emits nothing except for water vapor, and is more technically defined as a nicotine inhaler. I've heard stories from fellow travelers, one said they smoked it on a flight and never had an issue, and another said they simple went to the LAV and took a few puffs, obviously water vapor won't set off a smoke detector.
Are there ANY legal consequences to using such a device on a commercial flight?
I've never seen anyone trying to light one of them on other flights though, and, provided I was a smoker (which I'm not), I certainly wouldn't try to use one without asking the crew first (trying in the lav sounds like a bad idea).
Unless they've heard about those 'e-cigarette' things and the airline has a policy about them, you'd probably get a 'no way', though.
garpd From UK - Scotland, joined Aug 2005, 2696 posts, RR: 4
Reply 2, posted (3 years 5 months 3 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 29146 times:
The smoke you breath out, regardless how hard you try, reaches your baby and it will be at just as much risk of lung cancer as yourself. In fact, I read somewhere that "passive smoking" is more lethal.
Stop smoking, problem solved
E-cigarettes smell funny. My car passenger started sucking on one yesterday and I thought I had an electrical fire sparking up. They smell just like it.
Ryanair, as has been mentioned, sell e-Cigarettes and allow their use on board. But you'd be best checking with your airline directly.
#1) You're absolutely right. I work a highly stressful job, and quitting is on my list of things to do ASAP. I think once I actually hold my son in my arms, that will be all the incentive I need to just drop it.
#2) I had that happen a little when I first used mine. After an hour the smell went away and therefore just smelled like vapour.
gosimeon From Ireland, joined Jan 2008, 663 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (3 years 5 months 3 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 28894 times:
Quoting BrusselsSouth (Reply 1): I've never seen anyone trying to light one of them on other flights though, and, provided I was a smoker (which I'm not), I certainly wouldn't try to use one without asking the crew first (trying in the lav sounds like a bad idea).
Ryanair sell "smokeless cigarette", not quite the same as e-cigarettes. On a flight last year, my friend who smokes decided to see what they were all about. They were dissapointed to find the cigarettes Ryanair sells were basicly an empty tube, with nicotene particles inside. You just suck through the tube and get your hit it seems. Very odd stuff altogether!
JoeCanuck From Canada, joined Dec 2005, 5477 posts, RR: 30
Reply 7, posted (3 years 5 months 3 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 28651 times:
For a smoker, those alternatives listed just don't cut it...you just can't beat a deep suck on a coffin nail. I've never tried an e cig...I think they may soothe the savage beast better than most alternatives.
As for just quitting, it has been shown that quitting smoking is one of the most difficult and stressful things a person can do. Nicotine is one of the most addictive substances known. Not even heroin is as addictive.
Certainly quitting is a good idea...I did it after smoking for almost 30 years, (and I have no idea how many times I tried and failed to quit), but every second of quitting sucked...and over 4 years later, there are times where a cig would be the best thing ever.
Cessna172RG From United States of America, joined Aug 2000, 749 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (3 years 5 months 3 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 28301 times:
Forget the whole E-cig thing on flights...why risk it? Just grab a can of Camel Snus (or another type of European spit-free tobacco pouches) and use that. They're discreet, you don't have to spit, and get the job done and are a great way to get the nicotine you need while flying...or working...or in a situation where you can't smoke or don't want to.
On a side note, I smoke five cigars a day. I'm waiting for them to come out with an E-Cigar. LOL!!
nomadd22 From United States of America, joined Feb 2008, 1896 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (3 years 5 months 3 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 28285 times:
Most e cigarettes have nicotine cartidges. And most of the nicotine you breathe in, you also breathe out. They'd wouldn't be allowed where cigarettes are banned. If Ryan sells them they must be the non nicotine models.
While that may be biochemically true (I assume, but is it even?), as long as nicotine withdrawal doesn't lead to even a fraction of the hellish symptoms that acute heroin withdrawal does then it is a pointless comparison.
To the OP, take some gum. It is one flight, a long one at that, but surely you can do it with a little help. Not the same as the real thing I know, but seriously.......
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AirNZ From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (3 years 5 months 3 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 27759 times:
Quoting nomadd22 (Reply 13): They'd wouldn't be allowed where cigarettes are banned.
Absolutely nonsense! E-cigarettes can be smoked anywhere normal cigarettes are banned and, if you want to be completely accurate, there is no legal reason why not. Your hypothesis on exhaling nicotine is completely inaccurate......it is only harmful when exhaled as smoke. In and of itself nicotine is not a carcinogen. Do you ban nicotine plants in gardens worldwide???
GBLKD From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2011, 345 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (3 years 5 months 3 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 27651 times:
So on many airlines I can't take my harmless e-cigarette on and sit quietly in my seat minding my own business "smoking" it but I can bring on heavy glass bottles of booze (nothing dangerous about 2 litres of Jack Daniels or Smirnoff rattling around an overhead bin in turbulence is there?) and then proceed to join my fellow passengers in drinking myself into oblivion from the cabin crew's trolley if I so wish.
That's ok then....................................
VC10er From United States of America, joined Feb 2007, 2972 posts, RR: 13
Reply 21, posted (3 years 5 months 3 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 27615 times:
E-cigs contain nicotine to satisfy the urge to smoke. The smoke you breath in is not smoke it is liquid vapor. In fact in Europe the act is called "vaping" vs smoking. While addictive like anything with nicotine they are 100% safe and contain NO TOBACCO and no carcinogens. The air you breath out after a puff is empty water vapor. all the nicotine is absorbed through the tissue in your moth and lungs. it poses no danger to anyone. the don't taste great and don't come close to what smokers love about real cigarettes--but the don't make you ill nor will they make others around you ill. but even sticking a cigarette length white straw in your mouth on an airplane will freak people out and the crew. It is just such a no no from a social pov that i can't see airlines or even restaurants. Don't ask how I know all that - i just do!
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tugger From United States of America, joined Apr 2006, 5738 posts, RR: 10
Reply 22, posted (3 years 5 months 3 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 27572 times:
Quoting EasternSon (Reply 8): My wife and I just flew back from London on a Virgin Atlantic flight, and they included smokeless/electronic cigarettes in their no smoking announcement. They specifially said it was not allowed.
I wonder why they would be disallowed specifically. It seems silly.
Quoting YYZYYT (Reply 19): Challenge the flight crew who says they are not allowed? What precisely did you have in mind?
Yes, challenging the flight crew is usually not the best thing, it all depends on how you do it (i.e. not paticularly argumentative). Sadly the better thing to do is to just accept what they say and then go smoke privately in the lavatory (provided what dean in reply 10 has experienced is accurate and that lav smoke detectors aren't affect by "e-smoke").
While not the best solution, when there are not well thought out rules it leads to people taking actions irrespective of crew directions.
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AirNZ From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 23, posted (3 years 5 months 3 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 27571 times:
Quoting VC10er (Reply 21): E-cigs contain nicotine to satisfy the urge to smoke. The smoke you breath in is not smoke it is liquid vapor. In fact in Europe the act is called "vaping" vs smoking. While addictive like anything with nicotine they are 100% safe and contain NO TOBACCO and no carcinogens. The air you breath out after a puff is empty water vapor. all the nicotine is absorbed through the tissue in your moth and lungs. it poses no danger to anyone
copenhagenboy From Denmark, joined Sep 2001, 599 posts, RR: 1
Reply 24, posted (3 years 5 months 3 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 27281 times:
When I fly longhaul I use the Nicorette nicotine inhalator and it works well for me.
It is without the water "smoke", but it will give you the kick from inhaling the nicotine that the other nicotine product can not give you.
I dont know if you can buy it in the US, but here are some links, just to explain how it works. http://www.chemistdirect.co.uk/nicor...-inhalator-refill-pack_1_3439.html