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Virgin America Launches CFM Leap On A320NEO  
User currently offlineaviationweek From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2010, 55 posts, RR: 0
Posted (3 years 1 month 2 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 3843 times:

CFM International’s Leap engine has been launched on the Airbus A320NEO as part of an order from Virgin America worth $1.4 billion.

The deal includes Leap engines for 30 A320NEOs, plus CFM56-5Bs for 30 A320 ‘classic’ aircraft already ordered by Virgin America. More importantly for the General Electric-Snecma joint venture, it also marks the engine maker’s breakthrough into the A320NEO market, pitching it into a head-to-head battle with Pratt & Whitney’s PW1100G geared turbofan.

Rest of the story here: http://www.aviationweek.com/aw/gener...20Leap%20On%20A320NEO&channel=comm

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User currently offlineparapente From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2006, 1548 posts, RR: 10
Reply 1, posted (3 years 1 month 2 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 3790 times:

Good news for Cfm.The narrow bodied sector was beginning to appear like a GTF whitewash! However the Boeing 737 enigma must still represent the real opportunity here I feel.

User currently offlineLAXDESI From United States of America, joined May 2005, 5086 posts, RR: 48
Reply 2, posted (3 years 1 month 2 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 3315 times:

Air Asia could be the next to announce if it can convert some of the existing A320 orders into A320NEO.

User currently offlinePresRDC From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 660 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (3 years 1 month 2 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 2787 times:

Leap-X will have a good Paris Air Show.

User currently offlineYTZ From Canada, joined Jun 2009, 1981 posts, RR: 24
Reply 4, posted (3 years 1 month 2 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 2626 times:

Does the NEO have any other changes other than the engines? Does it have things like electrochromic windows for example?

User currently offlineSurfandSnow From United States of America, joined Jan 2009, 2856 posts, RR: 30
Reply 5, posted (3 years 1 month 2 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 2597 times:

Can't wait to see where VX decides to send all these new planes! Can these A320neos make it to Hawaii nonstop (with a profitable payload) from SFO/LAX?


Flying in the middle seat of coach is much better than not flying at all!
User currently offlineBralo20 From Belgium, joined May 2008, 623 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (3 years 1 month 2 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 2557 times:

The "old" A320 series should make it in therms of length. LAX-HNL is about 2.600nm, SFO-HNL a couple of hundred miles less and the maximum range with full payload for the whole A320 family is 3.000nm or more. AFAIK the A320Neo series should add about 500nm to that.

So it should be possible to fly both routes with sufficient spare fuel.

Quoting SurfandSnow (Reply 5):
Can these A320neos make it to Hawaii nonstop (with a profitable payload) from SFO/LAX?


User currently offlineDocLightning From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 19414 posts, RR: 58
Reply 7, posted (3 years 1 month 2 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 2462 times:

Quoting YTZ (Reply 4):
Does the NEO have any other changes other than the engines? Does it have things like electrochromic windows for example?

Airbus wants to keep the NEO as common with the A320-200 as possible, so I think that inboard of the wing root, the parts list will stay very similar. Too many changes and the NEO becomes less attractive to currently A320 operators, especially when Boeing might have a new plane on the table within a few years.

I'm going to put it out there that Airbus will probably redo the A320 interior to match Boeing's "Sky" interior.


User currently offlinetozairport From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 682 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (3 years 1 month 2 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 2454 times:

Quoting aviationweek (Thread starter):
CFM International’s Leap engine has been launched on the Airbus A320NEO as part of an order from Virgin America worth $1.4 billion.

So how are they going to pay for this order with 25 bills in the bank? I think they will be doing their own version of Virgin Cola before they ever take delivery of an A320 NEO.



Meet the new boss, same as the old boss.
User currently offlineYTZ From Canada, joined Jun 2009, 1981 posts, RR: 24
Reply 9, posted (3 years 1 month 2 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 2109 times:

Quoting DocLightning (Reply 7):
Airbus wants to keep the NEO as common with the A320-200 as possible, so I think that inboard of the wing root, the parts list will stay very similar. Too many changes and the NEO becomes less attractive to currently A320 operators, especially when Boeing might have a new plane on the table within a few years.

Fair enough.

If that's the case though, would it not then, be a simple affair to offer engine upgrades to existing operators?


User currently offlinenicoeddf From Germany, joined Jan 2008, 1099 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (3 years 1 month 2 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 2077 times:

Quoting tozairport (Reply 8):
So how are they going to pay for this order with 25 bills in the bank? I think they will be doing their own version of Virgin Cola before they ever take delivery of an A320 NEO.

You notice that having free cash flow and the possibility of financing large assets in terms of "having the money" are totally and utterly different things?


User currently offlinejfklganyc From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 3384 posts, RR: 5
Reply 11, posted (3 years 1 month 2 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 1973 times:

Put me in the skeptic column that this order gets filled.

Q1 was a mess for VX, and unless things get turned around quickly, they are in a bit of trouble.


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