r2rho From Germany, joined Feb 2007, 2248 posts, RR: 1 Posted (1 year 11 months 1 week 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 8093 times:
Today the recently delivered Aeroflot SSJ100 made its first commercial flight between SVO and LED.
The aircraft will perform flights to St. Petersburg, Kazan, Nizhny Novgorod, Ufa and Samara.
The SU Superjet is configured in a 12C+75Y seat layout. SU has orders for 30 Superjets.
Congrats to Sukhoi & Aeroflot on this milestone! After Armavia, this will provide more valuable operational experience for the Superjet program.
WROORD From United States of America, joined Mar 2009, 811 posts, RR: 0 Reply 3, posted (1 year 11 months 1 week 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 7304 times:
I read some place that SU was not overly happy as the first aircraft came configured not to their specifications - two bathrooms instead of three and no business section. Nonetherless, it is an interesting story and I will be curious to watch how the aircraft performs.
EnviroTO From Canada, joined Aug 2004, 820 posts, RR: 0 Reply 4, posted (1 year 11 months 1 week 3 days ago) and read 7190 times:
Quoting WROORD (Reply 3):
I read some place that SU was not overly happy as the first aircraft came configured not to their specifications - two bathrooms instead of three and no business section. Nonetherless, it is an interesting story and I will be curious to watch how the aircraft performs.
Are you serious? How can they get it that wrong? How many engines did they get?
EddieDude From Mexico, joined Nov 2003, 7175 posts, RR: 45 Reply 6, posted (1 year 11 months 1 week 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 6984 times:
Quoting DH2Beaver (Reply 5): How can it be called a 100 seat aircraft if it only has 87 seats?
Well, I guess it can maybe accomodate 100 seats in all-economy configuration with not-so-generous legroom. Maybe SU is offering generous legroom in Y, in addition to the fact that a J-cabin will also reduce the number of total seats.
oldeuropean From Germany, joined May 2005, 1901 posts, RR: 4 Reply 7, posted (1 year 11 months 1 week 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 6669 times:
Quoting WROORD (Reply 3): I read some place that SU was not overly happy as the first aircraft came configured not to their specifications - two bathrooms instead of three and no business section.
What shall they do. They were forced by Putin to order that airplane. All in all, they have to smile about this aircraft.
r2rho From Germany, joined Feb 2007, 2248 posts, RR: 1 Reply 8, posted (1 year 11 months 1 week 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 6505 times:
Quoting zeke (Reply 1): Agreed, always great to see a new type enter service, wish her good tailwinds.
Actually, I was referring to service entry with SU, as it is already in service with Armavia since April Apparently with very good results - 98% dispatch reliability in the 1st month after 105 flight hours and 54 flight cycles.
Quoting DH2Beaver (Reply 5): How can it be called a 100 seat aircraft if it only has 87 seats?
The SU configuration seems very generous. The SSJ can seat 98 PAX in an all-Y 32" configuration (itself already very generous by short-haul standards).
VC10er From United States of America, joined Feb 2007, 2426 posts, RR: 9 Reply 9, posted (1 year 11 months 1 week 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 6450 times:
How does this RJ compare with EMBRAER's 170/195 line?
The world is missing love, let's use our flights to spread it!
Best thing about the livery is, there is no white! Yeeeh
Quoting r2rho (Reply 8): Apparently with very good results - 98% dispatch reliability in the 1st month after 105 flight hours and 54 flight cycles.
That would mean it had a technical delay/cancelation once in 55 flights. That is very impressive with a brand new aircraft. Does anyone know what the problem was?
Quoting WROORD (Reply 3): I read some place that SU was not overly happy as the first aircraft came configured not to their specifications - two bathrooms instead of three and no business section.
Sounds like some good old cold war propaganda. Don't know where you read that but whoever wrote it probably hasn't yet realized that the cold war is over.
RussianJet From Kazakhstan, joined Jul 2007, 6279 posts, RR: 23 Reply 11, posted (1 year 11 months 1 week 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 6276 times:
Quoting WROORD (Reply 3): I read some place that SU was not overly happy
You 'read some place'???? Come on, seriously??
Quoting oldeuropean (Reply 7): What shall they do. They were forced by Putin to order that airplane. All in all, they have to smile about this aircraft.
I suppose this was 'read some place' as well was it? Ok there is probably a kernel of truth there, but not necessarily unreasonably so. Aeroflot with its history, and the inalienable association with Russia as a country, should certainly play a part in making this project a success.
Give them a chance, for goodness' sake people. All the signs are so far that it is a great plane, and it certainly looks absolutely beautiful in Aeroflot colours.
I wish people would stop heaping their hopes for failure on this project. I thought we were here because we liked planes? A new type entering service with a flag carrier is the kind of news we should rejoice at, and not start banding politically-motivated negativity about.
Aquila3 From Italy, joined Nov 2010, 208 posts, RR: 0 Reply 12, posted (1 year 11 months 1 week 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 6202 times:
Well done Aeroflot!
I hope they will order then many more than the initial 30. This is a great ptoject, that will do a lot of good to Russian Industry (and a little bit to Italian as well )
chi vola vale chi vale vola chi non vola è un vile
flythere From Hong Kong, joined May 2010, 384 posts, RR: 0 Reply 13, posted (1 year 11 months 1 week 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 6167 times:
Aeroflot said it launched commercial flights of Sukhoi's Superjet, which carried senior government officials from Moscow to St Petersburg for the economic forum.
RayChuang From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 7694 posts, RR: 5 Reply 14, posted (1 year 11 months 1 week 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 6058 times:
I wonder will the arrival of the SSJ100 mean the end of the Yak-42 in Russian airline service?
anrec80 From Canada, joined Jan 2011, 114 posts, RR: 0 Reply 15, posted (1 year 11 months 1 week 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 5565 times:
Quoting EnviroTO (Reply 4): Are you serious? How can they get it that wrong? How many engines did they get?
Presumably they get 2, but you know, some people believe that having an extra engine cannot hurt. There are plenty of things you can do with it if you get creative.
Quoting oldeuropean (Reply 7): What shall they do. They were forced by Putin to order that airplane. All in all, they have to smile about this aircraft.
Well, Putin did not force SU to buy Tu-204 and Il-96. If it was the case, that's the only things SU was flying now. No A320 or 763 - right?
Quoting RayChuang (Reply 14): I wonder will the arrival of the SSJ100 mean the end of the Yak-42 in Russian airline service?
Eventually. Soviet types are not being produced any more and Russians are phasing those particular out with older 735.
pylon101 From Russia, joined Feb 2008, 1391 posts, RR: 2 Reply 16, posted (1 year 11 months 1 week 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 5204 times:
Basically SSJ-100 replaces TU-134-A-3 (70 all Y) and yes - YAK-42D (120 all Y).
At the same time it gives an excellent opportunity to operate routes in combination with A-319/320 and even A-321 as routes vary pretty much in terms week days/day time pax flow.
As to fuel consumption I can assume (after weeks on Russian forums) that it is ca. 5% better than E-190, on par with CRJ-700/900 and slightly behind CRJ-1000.
But it should be taken into consideration that Sukhoi plans many improvements within 18 month in order to reach specs.
And SSJ provides 3-2 seating at 18.2" wide/32" pitch in economy. And a wider aisle.
Looks like a pretty good product.
r2rho From Germany, joined Feb 2007, 2248 posts, RR: 1 Reply 17, posted (1 year 11 months 1 week 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 4352 times:
Quoting VC10er (Reply 9): How does this RJ compare with EMBRAER's 170/195 line?
There was a comparison thread out there somewhere... if only I could find it.
Basically, if it meets the specs claimed by Sukhoi, it is lighter than the E190/195, and the engines are (high single digits) more fuel efficient. It has less range than the Ejets (though more than enough for RJ operations).
anrec80 From Canada, joined Jan 2011, 114 posts, RR: 0 Reply 18, posted (1 year 11 months 1 week 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 3955 times:
Quoting pylon101 (Reply 16): And SSJ provides 3-2 seating at 18.2" wide/32" pitch in economy. And a wider aisle.
Looks like a pretty good product.
That kind of raises one more question - will there be an ULC operator that will try 3-3 seating? That will be cramped for sure.
Quoting r2rho (Reply 17): Basically, if it meets the specs claimed by Sukhoi, it is lighter than the E190/195, and the engines are (high single digits) more fuel efficient. It has less range than the Ejets (though more than enough for RJ operations).
I am also curious - will this product be suitable for US operations - in particular - for transcons such as JFK-PDX or JFK-SEA?
Pacific From Hong Kong, joined Mar 2000, 1033 posts, RR: 0 Reply 19, posted (1 year 11 months 1 week 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 3620 times:
Quoting anrec80 (Reply 18): I am also curious - will this product be suitable for US operations - in particular - for transcons such as JFK-PDX or JFK-SEA?
The SSJ is a regional jet and wasn't designed for transcons. Nevertheless, US carriers definitely have found uses for a 75-95 seat, 2400nm (range of SSJ-ER) aircraft, with their fleet of ERJ-190 and CRJ-700/900.
Suitable, yes. Timing I'm not so sure with so many fairly new C and E-jets in the US skies already.
That said, many congratulations to Russia for finally coming up with what seems to be a viable, competitive product with plenty of orders!
B738FlyUIA From Switzerland, joined Dec 2009, 473 posts, RR: 0 Reply 20, posted (1 year 11 months 1 week 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 3410 times:
Quoting zeke (Reply 1): Congrats to Sukhoi & Aeroflot on this milestone!
Quoting zeke (Reply 1): Agreed, always great to see a new type enter service, wish her good tailwinds.
Quoting Pacific (Reply 19): That said, many congratulations to Russia for finally coming up with what seems to be a viable, competitive product with plenty of orders!
My congratulations for the new Aircraft in a new Fleet and wish them the best and many happy landings. I'm sure that this is the great product in to the jet age for Sukhoi Civil and hope they get great orders soon to provide this in Europe and other continents soon.
And if not then will have to book a ticket on SU to get the experience.
TR will follow; ZRH-DME SVO-HKT, HKT-SIN, SIN-KUL, KUL-HKT, HKT-SVO & DME-ZRH on LX, UN and AirAsia
pylon101 From Russia, joined Feb 2008, 1391 posts, RR: 2 Reply 21, posted (1 year 11 months 1 week 7 hours ago) and read 2898 times:
I've just learned that Mexican InterJet ordered 34" pitch in Y instead of standard 32".
Which makes me think that they have plans beyond Mexico.
I can imagine that SSJ may enter the States from an unexpected direction