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Paris Air Show 2011 BBD/EMB/ATR/Etc Orders  
User currently offliner2rho From Germany, joined Feb 2007, 2574 posts, RR: 1
Posted (3 years 1 month 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 11388 times:

Following discussion with the moderators I am starting a thread to follow up the non-Airbus/Boeing orders during the show, concerning the smaller manufacturers.

Therefore, let's use this thread to keep a centralized follow-up of any orders concerning Embraer, Bombardier, ATR, Sukhoi, Mitsubishi etc that would otherwise go less noticed in the A vs B competition.

If there is any major announcement, say ATR officially launching its 90-seat prop, Embraer launching a new model or similar, I would suggest it gets its own thread with a link to it posted here.

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User currently offlinePanAm_DC10 From Australia, joined Aug 2000, 4115 posts, RR: 90
Reply 1, posted (3 years 1 month 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 11383 times:
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Thanks for startin this thread r2rho here are a couple of the announcements;

Gecas Order 15 + 15 ATR-72-600 (by PanAm_DC10 Jun 20 2011 in Civil Aviation)

Sriwijaya Air To Acquire Up To 30 Embraer 190s (by PanAm_DC10 Jun 20 2011 in Civil Aviation)

Bombardier just announced a CSeries order from an undisclosed major network carrier

Regards

Paul



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User currently offlineCamiloA380 From Sweden, joined Feb 2008, 486 posts, RR: 26
Reply 2, posted (3 years 1 month 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 11359 times:

Thanks indeed.

Looks like we've got a new CSeries operator...

Major Network Carrier Places Firm Order for 10 CSeries Aircraft; Will Take First CS100 Aircraft Delivery

http://www.bombardier.com/en/corpora...ses/details?docID=0901260d80183825



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User currently offlinesaloman From Canada, joined Jun 2011, 122 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (3 years 1 month 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 11055 times:

Quoting CamiloA380 (Reply 2):
Looks like we've got a new CSeries operator...

And the first operator to boot.


User currently offlineLipeGIG From Brazil, joined May 2005, 11416 posts, RR: 59
Reply 4, posted (3 years 1 month 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 11005 times:
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In regards to Embraer, the Brazilian Press reports the sale of 39 frames plus 22 options.

Sriwijaya Air - Indonesia - 20 frames + 10 options
Kenya Air - 10 frames + 10 options
Air Lease, GE Capital Aviation Services and Air Astana - 9 frames + 2 options.

No information in regards to the models.

Link in Portuguese:
http://oglobo.globo.com/economia/mat...manda-por-seus-jatos-924723268.asp



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User currently offlineoykie From Norway, joined Jan 2006, 2717 posts, RR: 4
Reply 5, posted (3 years 1 month 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 10857 times:

Nice to see that ATR are gaining momentum with their -600 series, and BBD with their CSeries. This takes commitments up to 113 firm orders. And it is nice to see that Embraer keeps up getting orders for their E-JET.

I have been wondering who would take the initial CS100, and now we will soon now.   I was hoping for SAS, but with the NEO now confirmed, it seems less certain.



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User currently offlineapodino From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 4234 posts, RR: 6
Reply 6, posted (3 years 1 month 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 10604 times:

If the C series operator has chosen to remain anonymous, I am going to wager its a US carrier placing the order. However 10 frames isn't a lot of frames for a US carrier, unless they plan to order more. There just seems no reason for an overseas carrier to keep such an order under wraps, but US carriers will benefit from this for the rest of the airshow.

The question becomes, if carriers like UA and AA start ordering the C series and fly them at Mainline, what does Republic do with their order? The only option would be to fly them at F9, and who knows where they will be when the frames are delivered.


User currently offlinenorcal From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 2459 posts, RR: 5
Reply 7, posted (3 years 1 month 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 10568 times:

Quoting apodino (Reply 6):
The question becomes, if carriers like UA and AA start ordering the C series and fly them at Mainline, what does Republic do with their order? The only option would be to fly them at F9, and who knows where they will be when the frames are delivered.

I believe these aircraft can be flown profitably at mainline. Further I know UA is placing a huge emphasis on scope protection so they'll probably make some kind of deal to keep these aircraft at mainline. RAH didn't buy these for FFD though I'm sure they'd jump at the opportunity to fly them under a CPA given how poorly F9 is doing right now.

The real puzzling one is the TSA MRJ order. Who the heck are they going to fly those for?


User currently offlineCamiloA380 From Sweden, joined Feb 2008, 486 posts, RR: 26
Reply 8, posted (3 years 1 month 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 9868 times:

Seems like Bombardier is about to announce another CSeries order...


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User currently offlineBrouAviation From Netherlands, joined Jun 2009, 985 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (3 years 1 month 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 9836 times:

Bombardier announces LOI for 30 CS100's for Korean!


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User currently offlineBlueSky1976 From Poland, joined Jul 2004, 1869 posts, RR: 4
Reply 10, posted (3 years 1 month 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 9807 times:

YEEESSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I always believed CSeries will take off, and boy - it is taking off now. Just wait and see until the thing is in service - airlines will be lining up for it like for the sliced bread. Take that, Mr. Planemaker!!!!!!!!!!

Woohoo!!



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User currently offlineCamiloA380 From Sweden, joined Feb 2008, 486 posts, RR: 26
Reply 11, posted (3 years 1 month 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 9757 times:

Quoting BrouAviation (Reply 9):

Who saw that one coming?     



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User currently offlineBrouAviation From Netherlands, joined Jun 2009, 985 posts, RR: 1
Reply 12, posted (3 years 1 month 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 9642 times:

Quoting BrouAviation (Reply 9):
Bombardier announces LOI for 30 CS100's for Korean!

Picture of press announcement: http://yfrog.com/hsyh4wvoj

That will be one smart looking aircraft!



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User currently offlineoykie From Norway, joined Jan 2006, 2717 posts, RR: 4
Reply 13, posted (3 years 1 month 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 9454 times:

Quoting BlueSky1976 (Reply 10):
I always believed CSeries will take off, and boy - it is taking off now. Just wait and see until the thing is in service - airlines will be lining up for it like for the sliced bread.

Me too! This is very good news for Bombardier and their Cseries program!        



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User currently offlineoykie From Norway, joined Jan 2006, 2717 posts, RR: 4
Reply 14, posted (3 years 1 month 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 9425 times:

I would like to share this picture with you:

http://www.bombardier.com/files/en/supporting_docs/image_and_media/products/BA-CSeries_CS300_Korean_Air-HR.jpg

From Bombardier Media Site



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User currently offlinePanAm_DC10 From Australia, joined Aug 2000, 4115 posts, RR: 90
Reply 15, posted (3 years 1 month 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 9405 times:
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Quoting BrouAviation (Reply 9):
Bombardier announces LOI for 30 CS100's for Korean!

This is a major commitment for Bombardier and the CSeries and should have a thread of its own if someone would like to start one



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User currently offlineWisdom From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (3 years 1 month 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 9336 times:

10 more ATR72-600's for Brazilian Azul.

User currently offlineworldliner From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2005, 275 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (3 years 1 month 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 9286 times:

Korean getting C-series also, 30 orders. Livery looks great as posted above!!!


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User currently offlineDelimit From United States of America, joined Jan 2009, 1499 posts, RR: 2
Reply 18, posted (3 years 1 month 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 9246 times:

Oh pretty! My gosh, KE does seem to like a diverse fleet.

User currently offlinegroobster From United Kingdom, joined May 2001, 310 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (3 years 1 month 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 9226 times:

Ryanair to go Chinese?

"Ryanair has signed a memorandum of understanding with COMAC to participate in discussions on the development of the COMAC C919 aircraft."
http://www.breakingtravelnews.com/ne...eyes-new-aircraft-with-china-deal/



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User currently offlineBrouAviation From Netherlands, joined Jun 2009, 985 posts, RR: 1
Reply 20, posted (3 years 1 month 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 9191 times:

Quoting groobster (Reply 19):
"Ryanair has signed a memorandum of understanding with COMAC to participate in discussions on the development of the COMAC C919 aircraft."

This was already announced last week, but it sure is remarkable news. We may even see Europe covered with 300+ C919's in the next 10 years. 

Well, at least that keeps the DC-9 heritage around a bit longer.   



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User currently offlinegroobster From United Kingdom, joined May 2001, 310 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (3 years 1 month 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 9133 times:

Was it? Apologies then, I looked back through five days worth of threads but didn't see anything.

Big news though, and not that unexpected, FR were never going to be able to negotiate with Airbus to put pressure on Boeing, so it was always going to be one of the 'outsiders'



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User currently offlineBrouAviation From Netherlands, joined Jun 2009, 985 posts, RR: 1
Reply 22, posted (3 years 1 month 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 9099 times:

Quoting PanAm_DC10 (Reply 15):

This is a major commitment for Bombardier and the CSeries and should have a thread of its own if someone would like to start one

  

Bombardier: Korean On The List For 30 CS100's (by BrouAviation Jun 21 2011 in Civil Aviation)

Some interesting comments concerning Delta and the CSeries as well.



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User currently offlinePanAm_DC10 From Australia, joined Aug 2000, 4115 posts, RR: 90
Reply 23, posted (3 years 1 month 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 9036 times:
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Quoting BrouAviation (Reply 22):

Thank you BrouAviation for starting the thread. Really is a good one for KE and BBD

PT Sky Aviation of Indonesia have ordered 12 SSJ100s

Regards

Paul



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User currently offliner2rho From Germany, joined Feb 2007, 2574 posts, RR: 1
Reply 24, posted (3 years 1 month 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 8745 times:

Quoting Wisdom (Reply 16):
10 more ATR72-600's for Brazilian Azul.

It's a conversion of 10 of the 20 options from last year's Farnborough order. Link to press release: http://www.atraircraft.com/newsroom/...ress-releases-details-1144-en.html

ATR is indeed having a great year, this interesting press release summarizes their orders so far in 2011 - 78 firm and 32 options. The current backlog stands at 223 aircraft, worth over three years of production [at the new increased rate of 70 per year IIRC]
http://www.atraircraft.com/newsroom/...ress-releases-details-1143-en.html


25 NYC777 : Ok so O'Leary is goingto rape the Chinese instead of Boeing.
26 Post contains links r2rho : Though not an order, still an interesting announcement from Sukhoi: SSJ Corporate Jet version launched estimated demand for the business version at 80
27 Post contains images columba : Sorry to dissappoint you but the C919 is just another A320 look a like
28 BrouAviation : Ah, you're right. Confused with the ARJ-21 from the same manufacturer.
29 Post contains links and images MbahGondrong : After last day Sriwijaya Air made a firm order of Embraer, glad to see another Indonesia airlines made some orders too today, even though Sky Aviatio
30 CX Flyboy : My belief is that it is all part of his PR to make Boeing offer a lower price for their 737s and that he has no real desire to buy anything else!
31 r2rho : OK, let's try to sum things up after the first 2 days of Le Bourget: ATR 15 + 15 ATR-72-600.....GECAS (firm) 10 ........ATR72-600.....Azul Bombardier
32 Post contains links Flying-Tiger : Add Avation with 4 ATR 72-500 to be leased to Skywest Australia. Announced yesterday, but apparently slipped under the radar. TR, the world's leading
33 Post contains links frigatebird : And now there's Blue Panaroma is to acquire 12 Sukhoi Superjets, 8 firm with 4 options.... http://www.flightglobal.com/articles...to-acquire-up-to-12-
34 Post contains images 328JET : That would be breaking news and would justify a seperate thread.
35 Post contains images PanAm_DC10 : Yes it would and if someone would like to start a thread please feel free to do so. Regards Paul
36 Post contains links wolflair : Only if you don't take into consideration the fact that Interjet from Mexico already ordered 15+5 SSJs back in January. http://www.flightglobal.com/a
37 Post contains images 328JET : Thanks, Paul.
38 Post contains links and images frigatebird : And here it is: Blue Panorama To Acquire Up To 12 SSJ's (by frigatebird Jun 22 2011 in Civil Aviation) Ah, thanks. The first western European airline
39 pylon101 : It's would be a good order for Sukhoi. It expands geography and includes Asia and LATAM and now first little step into Europe.
40 Post contains links r2rho : More good news for ATR! 3 ATR 42-500s for TAME (Ecuador) 10 + 10 ATR 72-600s for NAC (Danish lessor) http://www.flightglobal.com/articles...c-deals-bo
41 Post contains links 2175301 : Viking has announced that they have sold 17 Twin Otters to Peru. Apparently its been in the works for a while - but the formal announcement was June 2
42 titus95 : geci skylander orders at le bourget air show GECI has sold 40 planes , including options. Airlines from Indonesia , Thailand and Malaysia have signed
43 Arrow : Is that a typo? I thought it was 12.
44 2175301 : My mistake - it was 12. New total is 16 Twotters. Still a great show (so far) for the Twotter. Have a great day,
45 Post contains links MbahGondrong : The airline from Indonesia is Sky Aviation. http://www.geci.net/files/UKPDF20110621_signatures.pdf Great buy for Airfast too.
46 Jean Leloup : So great to see this project working out. I get excited every time I see the Viking hanger at YYC. Amazing to see Twin Otter production come back to
47 titus95 : Yes apart the Twin Otter , another plane sees the light again , the Ruag228 , a new technology Dornier DO228.
48 r2rho : Thanks all for your contributions. Here is a summary after day 4 of Le Bourget, I have included the order breakdown for GECI - very succesful airshow
49 Post contains links and images oykie : 10 more Cseries ordered from an unnamed European customer. They signed up for the CS100. http://www.flightglobal.com/articles...er-orders-10-cseries-t
50 r2rho : Good to see BBD accumulating orders that, while not huge, are diversifying its customer portfolio and making it less dependent on LH and the (now muc
51 MEA-707 : The Star Alliance airlines in central Europe have always been cozy with BBD (Lufthansa, SAS, OS, LX, Adria, Croatia). I bet it's one of these.
52 Tangowhisky : There are now three CSeries customers that are unidentified. I am wondering if there is a reason for this? I am guessing that Airbus is going after t
53 voodoo : I think Airbus remains focused on Boeing . BBD even seems to have tried for a 'cold peace' with Airbus by having similar cockpit layouts and sidestic
54 Post contains images Giancavia : This is cool, No idea what rock i was sitting under but I never even knew such an aircraft existed
55 r2rho : The show is over, let's sum up and interpret the results: ATR 15 + 15 ATR-72-600.....GECAS (firm) 10 ........ATR72-600.....Azul 4 .........ATR 72-500
56 Post contains links r2rho : I just realized that a part 2 of the global 2011 orders thread has been opened, perhaps it's better to continue the discussion there ATR, BBD, EMB, Et
57 pylon101 : Sukhoi made MOU with Blue Panorama for 8+4. It should be said that with ca. 200 orders the immediate goal of Sukhoi is not getting new orders - but es
58 Post contains images r2rho : Thanks for the correction! I actually mentioned Blue Panorama (European customer) in my analysis, but forgot to add it to the list!
59 MEA-707 : I thought that this is the same order, so a Major European network carrier... being the first one fly them... I think someone like SAS or Austrian. B
60 parapente : Reply 55 Embraer 20 + 10 E190.....Sriwijaya Air (MoU or LOI) 10 + 10 E190.....Kenya Air (LOI) 5..........E190.....ALC (firm) 2 + 2....E190.....Air Ast
61 Post contains links saloman : Two separate orders. Press release for the "major network carrier" specifies them as the sixth customer, while the "European customer" is identified
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