Fuling From Australia, joined Apr 2011, 187 posts, RR: 0 Posted (2 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 16258 times:
I was wondering what Emirates will be like in a few years. Eg, fleet, new destinations, and mostly - Skytrax rank (seems to have gone down quite a lot in the past few years)
What are your thoughts?
pnd100 From Canada, joined Mar 2009, 343 posts, RR: 0 Reply 1, posted (2 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 16271 times:
Based on my conversations with EK employees & those at DXB, the plan is pretty much the same as the last 5 years. Continue with the all wide body fleet, continued expansion worldwide & continued development of DXB / DWC. As for fleet types I suspect it will be A350 / A380 with B77L & B77W. SkyCargo may will have B748F & B77F. Their service has suffered along with growth but that is a side effect that is common in business unfortunately. As you grow, some things get diluted. Even still, they will remain at par or above par with most airlines in terms of service.
LAXtoATL From United States of America, joined Oct 2009, 1590 posts, RR: 2 Reply 3, posted (2 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 16111 times:
Quoting Fuling (Thread starter): I didn't know that there was a DWC? What and where is it in relation to the DXB airport? (Maybe I am gonna look silly asking that )
DWC is not far from DXB. It is the new Dubai airport that they are building to replace DXB, it will be larger and able to handle EK's expected growth. I'm sure other people have more details about it but that at least gives you an idea.
pnd100 From Canada, joined Mar 2009, 343 posts, RR: 0 Reply 4, posted (2 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 16104 times:
There are no silly questions .... apparently there are a lot of people who do silly things however!
DWC opened last year for cargo ops & will start pax ops probably by year end. It is about 40 km from DXB & will start off as a reliever with the goal of ultimately transferring operations there or using both if traffic growth permits. It is supposedly the most A380 friendly airport in the world. Conveniently the local carrier has a few!
It will continue in use for a number of years yet as EK's Tim Clarke has indicated that it is unlikely that EK will move to DWC before 2017 (and possibly later), and delays in construction, partly due to the financial crisis, keep pushing the completion date back.
flydubai was originally intended to commence operations from DWC but due to delays started from T2 DXB. Now they too are reluctant to move. In the meantime, expansion at DXB continues...
Fuling From Australia, joined Apr 2011, 187 posts, RR: 0 Reply 12, posted (2 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 15665 times:
And by gosh that is a lot of airports in and around Dubai. That makes 4 airports come to my mind within 40km of Dubai.
DXB - Dubai Airport
DWC - Al Maktoum Airport
SHJ - Sharjah Airport
NHD - Minhad Air Base
Must be a busy airspace indeed
Um...Max Q...Dubai is in the continent of Asia. While the area is more commonly known as the Middle East, it is no doubt within the continent of Asia. Furthermore a link to Dubai does set up excellent connections to the heart of Asia as well.
Exactly. I guess if Emirates did move to DWC, passengers won't be too happy about the new distance they have to travel from Dubai to the DWC airport (for passengers staying over in Dubai). DXB is in the perfect location as it is. However I think an expansion to DXB can't be done due to the infustructure around the DXB airport. Sure, maybe a few more terminals, but definately no more runways
Quoting pnd100 (Reply 16): Um...Max Q...Dubai is in the continent of Asia. While the area is more commonly known as the Middle East, it is no doubt within the continent of Asia. Furthermore a link to Dubai does set up excellent connections to the heart of Asia as well.
Thats correct. Dubai is in Asia. Not all Asian countries have to be stereotyped as the same. 7 Continents remember Max Q... Asia, Australasia, Antarctica, Africa, Europe, South America and North America, and Middle East isn't one of them.
Emirates will never get 5-star from Skytrax anymore.
Quote: For example, we set a policy in 2009 that ruled out the prospect of a 5-Star Airline ranking being awarded to any airline that opted for a 10 across seating configuration on their Boeing 777 aircraft
Gate space can be increased at DXB so that passenger volumes can be increased, but the real limitation is the lack of space to build an additional runway. Even with the building of Concourse 3, dedicated to sole use by EK, remote stands will remain necessary.
According to Dubai Airports, there were 307,000 aircraft movements at DXB during 2010 and that figure is increasing. Already there are delays during peak periods due not only to the lack of an additional runway but increasing air traffic in the the Gulf generally. This is an issue that ATC and Civil Aviation authorities in the region will need to address so that more efficient use of airspace across borders prevents increasing bottlenecks that can inhibit growth.
Fuling From Australia, joined Apr 2011, 187 posts, RR: 0 Reply 21, posted (2 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 11967 times:
Quoting JA8119 (Reply 19): we set a policy in 2009 that ruled out the prospect of a 5-Star Airline ranking being awarded to any airline that opted for a 10 across seating configuration on their Boeing 777 aircraft
Thats really interesting, but very understandable. I hate the 3-4-3 configuration. So uncomfortable! Thanks for that info though
ThrottleHold From South Africa, joined Jul 2006, 642 posts, RR: 1 Reply 23, posted (2 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 11709 times:
Quoting goblin211 (Reply 13): why not just put all the expansion into DXB? Why the second airport? i know demand is higher but certainly there's enough sand to cover at DXB? Basically, how necessary is another airport?
Do you realise the exact location of DXB? I suggest you have a look on Google Earth. There is zero room for physical expansion of the airport.