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WN 1916 Possible Brake Failure  
User currently offlineKBUF From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 529 posts, RR: 0
Posted (3 years 1 month 3 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 6441 times:

En route BWI-BUF. Been circling for over an hour now: http://flightaware.com/live/flight/S...6/history/20110626/1935Z/KBWI/KBUF (Ignore the fact that Flightaware says it's already landed.)

http://www.wgrz.com/news/article/125...ouble-Incoming-at-Buffalo-Airport-


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User currently offlineQANTAS747-438 From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 1935 posts, RR: 2
Reply 1, posted (3 years 1 month 3 weeks 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 6077 times:

WN1916 landed in BUF at 18:59 and was N746SW, a -700. It is now terminating in BUF and was swapped out with N445WN, also a -700, as the continuation of 1916 to MCO.


My posts/replies are strictly my opinion and not that of any company, organization, or Southwest Airlines.
User currently offlineKBUF From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 529 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (3 years 1 month 3 weeks 6 days ago) and read 5763 times:

Ultimately turned out to be an issue with the flaps: http://www.wgrz.com/news/article/125...ps-At-Buffalo-Niagara-Intl-Airport


"Starting today, the Buffalo Sabres' reason for existence will be to win a Stanley Cup."-Terry Pegula, February 22, 2011
User currently offlineLazialeMKD From French Polynesia, joined Oct 2009, 150 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (3 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 4746 times:

When I opened the flightaware info page for this flight there are at least 5 - 6 different flights with the same flight number. Why is this the case? Why they don't assign different flight numbers to each of those flights?

User currently offlineTUSdawg23 From United States of America, joined May 2010, 111 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (3 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 4197 times:

Quoting LazialeMKD (Reply 3):
When I opened the flightaware info page for this flight there are at least 5 - 6 different flights with the same flight number. Why is this the case? Why they don't assign different flight numbers to each of those flights?

One of the reasons WN is well known for using the same flight # on multiple flights is because people like the assurance of knowing they don't have to change planes and risk missing a connection. So if you book a ticket from DAL-BUF on WN #1916 it'll be a longer travel day then flying another carrier but probably cheaper and you have the piece of mind in knowing you will be on the same plane the whole time. That's not to say some other carriers don't do this, but I would say it is much more common at WN than other carriers.


User currently offlinemcdu From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 1459 posts, RR: 17
Reply 5, posted (3 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 3659 times:

Quoting TUSdawg23 (Reply 4):
it'll be a longer travel day then flying another carrier but probably cheaper and you have the piece of mind in knowing you will be on the same plane the whole time.

Actually that doesn't appear to be the case. Southwest avoids posting it's fare anywhere but Southwest.com to mask the higher cost of their flights. Here is just a quick rundown on pairing.


Sample of DAL to BUF one way on July 25, 2011 from Southwest site the cheapest fare is $293.00 The flight in question 1916 shows the lowest fare of $326.00, two stops and a travel time of 6+35.

From Orbitz there is a UA option of $101.00, one stop and a travel time of 5+38. The same fare for DL has one stop and a travel time of 6+15.

The initial savings is $125.00 off the lowest SWA fare, ONE stop versus two. The more stops you make chances you have of an interruption of your travel.


User currently offlineTUSdawg23 From United States of America, joined May 2010, 111 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (3 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 3392 times:

Quoting mcdu (Reply 5):
Actually that doesn't appear to be the case. Southwest avoids posting it's fare anywhere but Southwest.com to mask the higher cost of their flights. Here is just a quick rundown on pairing.


Sample of DAL to BUF one way on July 25, 2011 from Southwest site the cheapest fare is $293.00 The flight in question 1916 shows the lowest fare of $326.00, two stops and a travel time of 6+35.

From Orbitz there is a UA option of $101.00, one stop and a travel time of 5+38. The same fare for DL has one stop and a travel time of 6+15.

The initial savings is $125.00 off the lowest SWA fare, ONE stop versus two. The more stops you make chances you have of an interruption of your travel.


Sorry let me rephrase MCDU, since I know you will go to any length on these boards you can to bash WN.
We all know that there are many factors that come together in pricing a fare such as the date, the time, etc. I am well aware that WN is often times not the cheapest option. I was comparing the overall travel time between carriers and saying WN will often times be longer than other carriers with the extra stop or two, but I was not comparing WN's fares to other airlines, but to other WN flights and was not clear enough on that point. From my experience with WN, booking with them on flights >1000 nm, making an extra stop decreases the overall fare price.

Also believe it or not I would be willing to pay around an extra $100-$200 to fly WN because I am a rapid rewards member, a flexible traveler and prefer flying WN to other carriers because of how my experiences with them compared to other carriers over the years have been more favorable.


User currently offlineskoker From United States of America, joined Apr 2006, 439 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (3 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 2999 times:

If you're into watching avaition videos, check out the video on WGRZ.com, shows the flight landing and he is really landing fast on touchdown. Wish I was there to see it.

User currently offlinezrb2 From United States of America, joined May 2000, 896 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (3 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 2680 times:

Quoting skoker (Reply 7):
If you're into watching avaition videos, check out the video on WGRZ.com, shows the flight landing and he is really landing fast on touchdown. Wish I was there to see it.

Yeah, it does look like the plane was really hauling on touch down. Seems like WGRZ got notified well in advance of the trouble (how does that happen?) and positioned it's camera right where the old Flying Tigers retaurant used to be,,,now Mercy Flight I believe. Interesting how this first got reported as a brake issue but turned out to have nothing to do with brakes. Here's the link...

http://www.wgrz.com/news/article/125...th-Mechanical-Problem-Lands-Safely


User currently offlineairportugal310 From Palau, joined Apr 2004, 3608 posts, RR: 2
Reply 9, posted (3 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 1991 times:

Quoting TUSdawg23 (Reply 6):
Also believe it or not I would be willing to pay around an extra $100-$200

A fool and his money can easily be parted. I'd believe $50 bucks maybe, but $100-200? Thats just wasteful



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User currently offlinebond007 From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 5408 posts, RR: 8
Reply 10, posted (3 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 1913 times:

Quoting airportugal310 (Reply 9):
A fool and his money can easily be parted. I'd believe $50 bucks maybe, but $100-200? Thats just wasteful

Well, one change could cost you $100-$150 on any other airline, and if your reward points are needed to get a free ticket, then it's hardly a waste.

Sure, if you get nothing for it, and you are sure you're not going to change your flight, then it might be wasteful ... otherwise, no.

Jimbo



I'd rather be on the ground wishing I was in the air, than in the air wishing I was on the ground!
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