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Sad News: Another 707 Written-off  
User currently offlineNa From Germany, joined Dec 1999, 10365 posts, RR: 11
Posted (12 years 9 months 2 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 1776 times:

Air Memphis´ 707 passenger/Combi, registered SU-BMV was written off recently in a landing accident at Monrovia returning Hadj-pilgrims.
I don´t know if this has been mentioned before but I´ve never heard about it so far.

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User currently offlineDuke From Canada, joined Sep 1999, 1155 posts, RR: 2
Reply 1, posted (12 years 9 months 2 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 1649 times:

On www.jacdec.de this is listed as a POTENTIAL
writeoff.


User currently offlineCeilidh From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (12 years 9 months 2 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 1603 times:

WIth 707s, any repair costing more than US$100k = total constructive loss (write-off)

User currently offlineAirsicknessbag From Germany, joined Aug 2000, 4723 posts, RR: 34
Reply 3, posted (12 years 9 months 1 week 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 1508 times:

It wasn´t Air Memphis but Luxor Air. As lately as last year, this very plane flew German tourists through Egypt on a regular basis - a friend of mine was on such a flight only one year ago.

Are you sure it´s Combi? I have a safety card which clearly shows it is (or was at that time) all pax.

Q: Which was the last year in which no 707 was written off? (Scroll down for answer)
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... A: 1960 (!)

Daniel Smile


User currently offlineDuke From Canada, joined Sep 1999, 1155 posts, RR: 2
Reply 4, posted (12 years 9 months 1 week 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 1451 times:

The aircraft is being considered an insurance writeoff
according to recent reporting.


User currently offlineAriana727ADV From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (12 years 9 months 1 week 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 1422 times:

To the poster who felt sad, cheer up buddy, every plane has its life and after which, they are just recycled.
B707 had a big life span and I think due to some problems with it and its age, it should be retired. By problems, I mean nowadays, planes are much more safer and comfortable. I don't think it is a wise idea to keep such aircraft operating anymore. I mean every aircraft built before 1985 should be written off. After all, it is a question about safety.


User currently offlineEGGD From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2001, 12443 posts, RR: 36
Reply 6, posted (12 years 9 months 1 week 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 1415 times:

$100,000 for a write off?

wow! I saw a 707 for sale a couple of months ago for £2,000,000. Does that mean if i'd bought it i would have been ripped off?

Its saddening news if it has been written off, not too many of those old birds flying around.

Cheers

Dan


User currently offlineAriana727ADV From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (12 years 9 months 1 week 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 1413 times:

To the poster who felt sad, cheer up buddy, every plane has its life and after which, they are just recycled.
B707 had a big life span and I think due to some problems with it and its age, it should be retired. By problems, I mean nowadays, planes are much more safer and comfortable. I don't think it is a wise idea to keep such aircraft operating anymore. I mean every aircraft built before 1985 should be written off. After all, it is a question about safety.


User currently offlineTan flyr From United States of America, joined Aug 2000, 1897 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (12 years 9 months 1 week 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 1379 times:

Ariana727...you must be kidding right? Thats only 16 yrs old. Many aircraft have lots of years left in them at age 16. As a matter of fact the decpreciation and amortization schedules for most aircraft are 18-22 years long. Many leases are for 20 yrs. If the worlds airlines and cargo lines had to keep replacing planes on your schedule, they would only need about half of what they have because very few of us could afford to fly or ship cargo.

Its in the maint. of aircraft..well maintained ones from the mid-60's are still flying(DC-8-70's).


User currently offlineIMissPiedmont From United States of America, joined May 2001, 6260 posts, RR: 34
Reply 9, posted (12 years 9 months 1 week 1 day ago) and read 1363 times:

Since 1960:

1) AF F-BHSH blown up AJC 9.7.76 by bomb.
2) AF F-BHST near PTP
3) AF F-BHSZ near CCS
4) AF F-BLCJ near PTP
5) AF F-BHSM dbr ORY 6.3.62 on takeoff
6) Biman S2-ABQ 4.3.80 SIN
7) PA N798PA CCU 6.13.68
8) PA N407PA FCO 12.17.73
9) PA N446PA Bali 4.22.74
10) PA N494PA CCS 12.12.68
11) PA N799PA 12.26.68 EDF
12) PA N454PA PPG 1.30.74
13) PA N461PA MNL 7.25.71
14) PA N458PA BOS 11.3.73
15) PA N709PA Elkton, IN 12.8.63
16) PA N417PA PPT 7.22.73
17) LH D-ABOT DEL 12.19.73
18) LH D-ABOK Ebersheim 12.4.61
19) TAMPA HK-2401X MED 12.15.83
20) AA N7502A Montauk NY 1.28.61
21) AI VT-GJJ BOM 6.22.82
22) Trans Arabian ST-ALK Khartoum 7.14.90
23) ALIA JY-ADO KAN 1.22.73
24) Hispanola HI-384HA MIA 12.12.81
25) MS SU-AXA BKK 12.25.76
26) AV HK-723 MEX 8.16.76
27) AV HK-725 UIO 1.27.80
28) Katale 9Q-CVG Goma 3.1.90

Anyway you get the point, I will not list the other 137 or so wo since 1960.

Just wanted to add to you comprehensive list.

BTW, yes I can provide dates, airlines, registrations, msn, LN and cause.

Steve  Smile



Is grammar no longer taught is schools? Saying "me and her" or some such implies illiteracy.
User currently offlineAirlinelover From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 5580 posts, RR: 23
Reply 10, posted (12 years 9 months 1 week 22 hours ago) and read 1352 times:

EGGD- Just out of curiosity, how much is that in USD? I've always wanted a plane of my own..  Nuts

Chris



Lets do some sexy math. We add you, subtract your clothes, divide your legs and multiply
User currently onlineMEA-707 From Netherlands, joined Nov 1999, 4265 posts, RR: 34
Reply 11, posted (12 years 9 months 1 week 19 hours ago) and read 1340 times:

With my nickname you probably guessed I'm also opposing Ariana727adv's point. SU-BMV was a former MEA bird, which flew it till 1998 as the best maintained passenger 707s around. After 1998, SU-BMV was one of only a handful passenger 707s left to fly, and it was my (among some other Airliners.net members) wish to fly it once, especially because it was originally ordered by MEA and unlike their ex American 707s (which I flew) probably still fitted with a 1960s interior with open overhead racks.
Most of the 1980s and 1990s write offs of 707s are not because of the unsafety of an old design, but because of either bad procedures of small sketchy airlines (which happen to fkly the 707 much because of low purchase costs) or after minor damages which aren't worth repairing because the age and economics of the aircraft. MEA 707/720 operations (till 1998) were as safe as any modern western fleet.



nobody has ever died from hard work, but why take the risk?
User currently offlineDuke From Canada, joined Sep 1999, 1155 posts, RR: 2
Reply 12, posted (12 years 9 months 1 week 12 hours ago) and read 1302 times:

What about that 707 that crashed and could maybe be repaired but had
already had about 30 things which were due for repairs, and was written off?
Or the 1998 one whose engine fell into the Belgian woods? Was that a quality
airframr? Some old planes seem O.K. but I find the number of 707s still flying shocking, correct me if I am wrong.


User currently offlineEarly Air From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 611 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (12 years 9 months 1 week 12 hours ago) and read 1302 times:

Although I love the 707, I think its time to pull the rest out of the sky.

Rgds,
Early Air


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