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Pilot Errors That Can Kill His/her Pride?  
User currently offlineGonzalo From Chile, joined Aug 2005, 1950 posts, RR: 2
Posted (2 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 16831 times:

I know all the people in the front seats try their best every day, and despite sometimes are underpaid in cash, the proud of being a Pilot is often perceived as a compensation for all the sacrifices like being all the time away from home or the bad cheeseburgers for lunch and many more.
But like every human, sometimes they can press the wrong button and, even if there is no consequences like a serious incident or accident because of that mistake, the proud can result seriously hurt.
From the top of my head I can remember a good number of situations where the number of victims is only one and always the same : the Proud of the poor pilot in the cockpit.
Here is my starting list :
• Turning on the wrong taxiway and cause a mess in the ground traffic
• Forgetting all the frequencies the ATC gave because never take a note
• Squawk a Emergency/Hijack code that wasn’t necessary / real
• Spill the coffee or meal over the panel
• Tail strikes and hard/bounced landings ( this are common, I know… but hurts a little anyway )
• Forgetting to put the gear down until the alarm reminds him to do “something”
• Talk without releasing the mic button and all the rant goes public

Anybody with some funny story to add here ?

Rgds.

G.


80 Knots...V1...Rotate...Gear Up...DC-3 / EMB-110 / Fairchild-227 / Ab318-19-20 / B732 / B763
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User currently offlineB747forever From Sweden, joined May 2007, 17003 posts, RR: 10
Reply 1, posted (2 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 16808 times:

Quoting Gonzalo (Thread starter):
Spill the coffee or meal over the panel

If I remember correctly, wasnt there a UA 777 flight that had to divert because the cockpit crew had spilled coffee over the panel?



Work Hard, Fly Right
User currently offlineKC135TopBoom From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 12061 posts, RR: 52
Reply 2, posted (2 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 16790 times:

Don't forget things like landing and forgetting to put the gear down.

User currently offlineBoeingGuy From United States of America, joined Dec 2010, 2880 posts, RR: 7
Reply 3, posted (2 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 16643 times:

Quoting Gonzalo (Thread starter):
Forgetting to put the gear down until the alarm reminds him to do “something



That's what the checklists are for.

Quoting Gonzalo (Thread starter):
Turning on the wrong taxiway and cause a mess in the ground traffic



This can cause a lot more than loss of pride if they roll onto an active runway.

Not sure I get the point of this thread.


User currently offlineMir From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 21088 posts, RR: 56
Reply 4, posted (2 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 16610 times:

Have a lengthy conversation with an air traffic control facility, only to realize at the end of the conversation that you were talking to the wrong facility. It's happened to me twice (though once wasn't my fault - I had the right frequency, but I was in range of two stations and the wrong one answered).

-Mir



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User currently offlinecomorin From United States of America, joined May 2005, 4869 posts, RR: 16
Reply 5, posted (2 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 16520 times:

Landing at the wrong airport must be oops #1  

User currently offlineB747forever From Sweden, joined May 2007, 17003 posts, RR: 10
Reply 6, posted (2 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 16456 times:

Quoting comorin (Reply 5):
Landing at the wrong airport must be oops #1

Or overflying the destination  



Work Hard, Fly Right
User currently offlineTurkish350XWB From Switzerland, joined Jan 2009, 465 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (2 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 16441 times:

Farting in front of attractive flight attendants can easily kill a male pilot's pride...

User currently offlineBlueJuice From United States of America, joined Jun 2010, 231 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (2 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 16413 times:

Quoting Turkish350XWB (Reply 7):
Farting in front of attractive flight attendants can easily kill a male pilot's pride...

Indeed, a gentleman always lets a lady go first.  
Quoting KC135TopBoom (Reply 2):
Don't forget things like landing and forgetting to put the gear down.
What's that beeping sound?. The landing configuration warning.


User currently offlineGonzalo From Chile, joined Aug 2005, 1950 posts, RR: 2
Reply 9, posted (2 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 16380 times:

Quoting Mir (Reply 4):
Have a lengthy conversation with an air traffic control facility, only to realize at the end of the conversation that you were talking to the wrong facility.

That's a very good one  
Quoting comorin (Reply 5):
Landing at the wrong airport must be oops #1

Ask in Indonesia   

Quoting BoeingGuy (Reply 3):
This can cause a lot more than loss of pride if they roll onto an active runway.

I specifically said in the OP : "even if there is no consequences like a serious incident or accident because of that mistake" precisely to exclude the dramatic consequences that any mistake can cause in aviation when all goes wrong.


Quoting BoeingGuy (Reply 3):
Not sure I get the point of this thread.

Just to collect funny anecdotes and stories. We have funny situations every day that don't make the newspapers, and this is the place to share and give a smile in the other members who read. Just that. And if you don't like the thread, just use the SD button, maybe the Mods will agree with you or maybe not.   

Rgds.
G.



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User currently offlinemmedford From United States of America, joined Nov 2007, 561 posts, RR: 9
Reply 10, posted (2 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 16249 times:

idk about you guys...but if an aircraft has to be written off & you were at the controls... that'll kill some pride points...


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User currently offlineLuftfahrer From Germany, joined Mar 2009, 1000 posts, RR: 2
Reply 11, posted (2 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 16214 times:

Quoting mmedford (Reply 10):

It depends. In the case of US 1549, certainly not.



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User currently offlinegoblin211 From United States of America, joined Jun 2010, 1209 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (2 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 16175 times:

What about getting onto the wrong runway? Does this ever happen? Maybe going onto the left instead of right?


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User currently offlinewarden145 From United States of America, joined Aug 2010, 496 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (2 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 16166 times:

Quoting Luftfahrer (Reply 11):
It depends. In the case of US 1549, certainly not.

On the other end of the scale, there's WN 1455   



ETOPS = Engine Turns Off, Passengers Swim
User currently offlinemandala499 From Indonesia, joined Aug 2001, 6590 posts, RR: 75
Reply 14, posted (2 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 16108 times:

Quoting Gonzalo (Reply 9):
Ask in Indonesia

Happened to a friend of mine... to this day, he keeps saying to himself, "I must check my instruments even after seeing a runway"...

Other ego/pride killers:
- Busting minimas to try and be the foolish hero, only to have the other pilot calling and executing a go-around!   
- Trying to talk like the locals when in an unfamiliar airport, only to be caught out...
- Turning up at the wrong airplane! (it happens)
- Turning up for the wrong schedule! (it happens)
- Taxiing into the wrong taxiway which is a dead end! You'll feel like the world's ultimate idiot while waiting for the tug!
- Falling down the stairs while about to do the pre-flight walkaround check, in full view of the passengers waiting at the boarding lounge!
- Shutting both engines to roll onto the parking stand, only to fall short of the stop mark by a few feet resulting in inadequate wing clearance for passing traffic behind.
- Announcing the wrong flight on the P/A!
etc, etc, etc...



When losing situational awareness, pray Cumulus Granitus isn't nearby !
User currently offlinefutureualpilot From United States of America, joined May 2000, 2598 posts, RR: 8
Reply 15, posted (2 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 16081 times:

Saying bye to the pax as the deplane, and as a man walks forward with a slight limp saying "Are you ok sir? I didn't think the landing was that bad!" In a joking manner, of course, only for him to reply: "I have a catheter."



...I'll just go finish my other foot now too.



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User currently offlineJBirdAV8r From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 4482 posts, RR: 22
Reply 16, posted (2 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 16066 times:

Quoting futureualpilot (Reply 15):
Saying bye to the pax as the deplane, and as a man walks forward with a slight limp saying "Are you ok sir? I didn't think the landing was that bad!" In a joking manner, of course, only for him to reply: "I have a catheter."

Oh ouch!

I took my girlfriend flying for the first time with me about eight years ago and forgot the chocks.

She goes "nice job, flyboy."

deflated=me.



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User currently offlinecbphoto From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 1548 posts, RR: 6
Reply 17, posted (2 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 15934 times:

Quoting JBirdAV8r (Reply 16):

I took my girlfriend flying for the first time with me about eight years ago and forgot the chocks.

She goes "nice job, flyboy."

Ohh..thats a good one!


Giving a PA announcement, or a position report on a tower freq is one that will leave your head shaking for a while!

Walking out to the plane, only to find its on maintenance, and then yelling at your dispatcher for dispatching a broken plane to you, only to realize you walked out to the wrong plane! This sucks!

Having a passenger so freaked out by your landing (it was really windy and bumpy) she walked off the aircraft crying, and thanks God she had made it back to earth safely, this one still stings a bit!

and I am sure their are plenty of others. I agree though, a runway incursion and stuff like that is a lot more serious, then just a blow to ones egos. If you can or would get violated for it, then their is a lot more at stake then your ego and pride!!



ETOPS: Engines Turning or Passengers Swimming
User currently offlineGonzalo From Chile, joined Aug 2005, 1950 posts, RR: 2
Reply 18, posted (2 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 15818 times:

Quoting mandala499 (Reply 14):
Other ego/pride killers:

Hi Mandala, nice to see you again... and a big Thanks to you, some of your examples make me LOL !!



Quoting futureualpilot (Reply 15):
"I have a catheter."

Arghhh.... that must be painful !!!

Quoting cbphoto (Reply 17):
and I am sure their are plenty of others.

Good ones...

Thanks to all for your funny stories, I opened this thread to remember the funny side of this beautiful profession and share some good mood, and I have a big smile in my face right now, mission accomplished.

Rgds.

G.



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User currently offlineYYZatcboy From Canada, joined Apr 2005, 1003 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (2 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 15785 times:
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Leaving the landing gear pins in :P


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User currently offlinerduoodl From United States of America, joined Dec 2009, 70 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (2 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 15640 times:

Talking junk about the pushback driver only to find out he's wearing a headset with a broken microphone could be a good one...seen it happen a few times. Doesn't really take the wind out of your sails, but it can leave you embarrassed.


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User currently offlinerunner13 From United States of America, joined Jun 2010, 237 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (2 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 15358 times:

I'm not a pilot so I don't know if this was a blow to the ego or not, but one day I was at the observation area at BNA listening to the tower frequency. I don't remember the callsign but the tower gave the pilot at 1 dme turn left heading 280 runway 31 cleared for take off. The pilot read it back correctly, then sat on the runway for a few seconds, called the tower and asked "is that 1 dme on the other side of the vor"? The controller responded "well you're 1 dme on this side of the VOR right"? A few seconds went by and the pilot responded "roger at 1 dme left heading 280 cleared for takeoff" I can only imagine what the pilots said to each other in the cockpit. I thought it was funny.

User currently offlineflanker From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 1624 posts, RR: 2
Reply 22, posted (2 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 15171 times:

Landing on a taxiway has to be up there on the list.


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User currently offlineusairways787 From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 290 posts, RR: 1
Reply 23, posted (2 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 14902 times:

Taxiing past your designated gate, even with you're Rampers signaling you to pull in.

Pulling into the wrong gate.

Down talking certain folks in different positions only to have one of them standing behind you.

Stating brakes are released for push, when they aren't.

Taxiing into a non moving jetway when you are Xd out TWICE! same pilot!

I'm no pilot, but friends with a lot of them. But just like any other job you get that one that can leave a bad taste in you're mouth. I've witnessed all of these, which is in no way to insult/putdown a pilot. This is just merely me sharing my experiences.



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User currently offlineApache323 From United States of America, joined Mar 2008, 16 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (2 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 14605 times:
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Beginning to taxi with the tail tie down still attached, this is guaranteed to get some laughs from fellow pilots at the FBO and ruin your pride for the day.

25 jetpilot : At flight school there were 2 planes with similar tail numbers. One tail # ended in "7" the other in "6". My instructor and I aborted the TO when the
26 robo65 : As mentioned above landing on taxiway. Pulling into wrong gate which may or may not cause problems with gate flow. I recall a few years back Aeroflot
27 faro : Ever any instances of using the wrong/outdated flight plan or are controls over the issuance of flight plans rock solid? Faro
28 josekmlb : One time we had a MD-88 pull into the GA ramp and he could not get out by himself without the help of a push back to the taxiway.
29 9LFlyGuy : I got a few that saw personally... Taxing a Saab 340 into a people mover at IAD. I'm mean, come on those things see huge and hard to miss... Taxi your
30 hal9213 : Heard of someone blabbing the complete "a very warm welcome from the flightdeck, ladies and gents..." text over a minute long on some ATC frequency wh
31 Max777geek : Announcing the wrong destination, hear laughs. - start pushback, hear blame on the ground frequency stating they have been warned for taxi traffic an
32 jetfuel : My worst one was trying to taxi off with wheel chocks still in place
33 nwa330tony : Vegas is windy!!! Complaining the entire flight that rudder not working properly only to land later and realize rudder lock was never removed. Done th
34 Dizzy777 : Doesn't only happen to pilots. happens to ramp guys too. Many years back, two identical aircraft sitting at gates beside each other, (vague to protec
35 Avi8r747 : Forgetting to reconnect the torque links, then not understand why the aircraft wont turn. I topped off a beach jets trunk tank along with an overall t
36 Post contains images DeltaAVL : Flying to an airport you've never been to, announcing that you're on "final for 34," then you land on 16. Not my most proud day. It's just a good thin
37 B737900 : This incident involves a DHC-3 Otter (on floats with wheels) operated by Taquan Air Services of Ketchikan, Alaska. Not exactly funny but quite memora
38 Post contains images mrskyguy : There's something to be said for those angels sitting in other cockpits.. plus, that Evergreen would have had a difficult time making their scheduled
39 Post contains images bohica : The best one I ever heard while waiting for takeoff and I was listening to Ch 9 on a UA flight. An airplane was rolling down the runway and had to abo
40 flyingjhawk : This incident happened a couple of years ago that actually added pride to this particular pilot and cost the ramper his job and almost killed three pe
41 Post contains links laxboeingman : Here is a link with funny recordings, and there are other good ones on the side. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lDQFVa_RHyg Thank you, laxboeingman
42 Post contains links ferengi80 : IIRC, the crash of SQ006 was down to this. Cleared to take off on Runway 5L at TPE, the crew read back correctly that they were to line up on 5L, but
43 USAIRWAYS321 : My mom loves to tell this story from when she was a flight attendant with Chautauqua Airlines in the 80s. There was a Short 330 pilot that nobody real
44 flanker : Well I remember an instructor who tore up two diamondstar props in a half a year time by forgetting to remove the tow bar before engine start LOL..
45 thrufru : Wow! So many pride busters and so little time... I'll just give you my favorite, even though it's now a running joke and doesn't really damage anyone'
46 IslandRob : Back in the 90s, I was on a commuter flight, operated by Mesa Airlines, from Steamboat Springs (HDN) to DEN, and we were on final approach - maybe 300
47 futureualpilot : The mover hit the Saab...not the other way around. Captain still had to go down to Mecca for a come to Jesus meeting but it wasn't his fault.
48 F9Animal : Comair 5191 was not only a huge pilot error, but the only survivor the FO has had a heck of a life since.
49 jetboy757 : The other week a delta heavy came in to land and he read back the LAHSO clearance wrong. He said "hold short of runway 4" instead of hold short of run
50 Post contains images captainstefan : Haha, the Seminoles at our school can barely drag the tie down rope, much less a cement plug Apparently some DL pilots got in trouble last month for
51 canoecarrier : I knew an F/O that forgot he'd done a jetway trade for the last flight of the day. By the time we'd called him he'd been out fishing all day and the
52 Post contains images AmericanAirFan : Trying to takeoff in a Diamond Twinstar without the fuel pumps on... The red "LO FUEL PRES" annunciations displayed with the *ding ding* followed by a
53 freeze3192 : It probably wasn't his pride. Most operators prohibit doing LAHSO operations. Besides, even if your FOM says you can participate in LAHSO operations,
54 Babybus : I had that happen to me a few times. It's also annoying when the pilot doesn't acknowledge it was his mistake. Also once a charter flight captain tol
55 golfradio : Getting lost in the maze that is JFK and having ATC scream in your ears.
56 jetboy757 : freeze3192, The Delta jet knew he was going to be LAHSO'd or else he would have told approach he couldn't as is stated on the ATIS broadcast. The reas
57 Post contains images Gonzalo : I had a couple of similar cases and, in the first few seconds you really ask your self " is it possible that I was stupid enough to board the wrong p
58 arffguy : Back in my fueling days I had a Cactus 737 come in and had almost no fuel in one side and all the rest in the other side. I went up to the cockpit (th
59 notaxonrotax : Forgetting to remove the "Remove Before Flight" covers………….before flight. That, and landing on a taxiway may kill a bit more than one´s pride
60 dhawald3 : Like not signing the tech log after flight and if the Engineering staff notices it much later the pilots have to come all the way back from their home
61 JBirdAV8r : This story smells like week-old mahi-mahi. 1) 4L and 4R are not appreciably far apart. If they declined a LAHSO on 4L they'd probably decline it on 4
62 Post contains images jetboy757 : JBirdAV8r, All I have to say is that if he couldn't LAHSO he should have told approach like it has said on our ATIS since LAHSO first began.
63 JBirdAV8r : Big deal. That's a courtesy call, not a requirement.
64 MD11Engineer : Complaining to the engineers that the cockpit panel indicator lights are too bright and dazzling, only to be shown the dim knob. On ground locking you
65 jetboy757 : approach sets up the sequence, if you don't tell approach you can't LAHSO, approach will tie you up with another plane on the crossing runway. Tower w
66 Mir : Just because LAHSO is on the ATIS doesn't mean you'll get it. In my experience, most of the time you don't. And you know that how? If I'm understandi
67 Post contains links PLANEGUY : Pulling a "van Zanten" ranks up there towards the top. It not only kills a pilot's pride but everyone on board as well: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v
68 Post contains links bohica : This is definitely a pride killer without killing yourself or others. Two F-16 fighter jets intercepted a small plane in Arizona Friday afternoon afte
69 Post contains images AirlineCritic : What do you mean, "kill his pride"? Obviously there are plenty of mistakes one can make. I'm not sure the egos of the pilots are permanently affected.
70 SlowFly : I was told of an island hopping charter pilot off Queensland Australia who ran out of fuel while taxiing for take-off with a plane full of pax.
71 airport1970 : As told to me by the guilty: 727 red-eye west coast to east. Left seat captain promptly falls asleep after takeoff and 4 hours later promptly wakes wh
72 Post contains images Gonzalo : Well, maybe not affected forever or "killed", but at least a good look in front of the mirror, shaking your head and asking yourself " WT... I was th
73 penguinflies : Accidentally answering your phone near a holiday and the call is from crew scheduling looking to assign some flying.
74 Post contains images wnbob : In a Tom Clancy's famous novel, a Japanese pilot is says to have such mastery of his craft that he would park his jumbo precisely on-the-painted-line
75 Post contains images futureualpilot : 9 times out of 10 that has more to do with the ramper guiding the pilot than the pilot's braking technique. If its on a day off, just say you're on t
76 Post contains images hal9213 : I was on a AF 777 in NRT once, where they stood on the brakes, after ATC told them theyre taxing the totally wrong direction. After everybody whacked
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