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Southwest 737-700 With IFE?  
User currently offlineJetBlue777 From United States of America, joined Jul 2009, 1443 posts, RR: 1
Posted (2 years 9 months 3 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 5904 times:

So I was in FLL yesterday flying on US, while taxiing for take off, a WN 737-700 was behind us and I noticed that there was a huge "hump" on the top of the fuselage which is present in A/C with IFE like B6's A320, DL's 757, etc. So does WN have any form of IFE on its newer 737 or is the hump for another reason?

Here's a pic:



Thanks!


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User currently offlineAtrude777 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 5686 posts, RR: 52
Reply 1, posted (2 years 9 months 3 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 5905 times:

It is the Row 44 Wifi System that WN is putting on their aircraft.

Alex

[Edited 2011-06-30 17:38:51]


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User currently offlinegrain From United States of America, joined Sep 2008, 88 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (2 years 9 months 3 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 5886 times:

Thats the wifi antenna for the Row 44 internet. progress is still being made to get all the planes retrofitted.

User currently offlineJetBlue777 From United States of America, joined Jul 2009, 1443 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (2 years 9 months 3 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 5874 times:

Ah, thanks for the fast response!

And also, I never knew that WN modified their livery with the bags fly free thing, well just a bit but still.



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User currently offlineXT6Wagon From United States of America, joined Feb 2007, 3321 posts, RR: 4
Reply 4, posted (2 years 9 months 3 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 5856 times:

I am 99% certain WN will never have IFE as its extra cost and source for extra customer disapointment when it fails.

The WiFi should fill the needs of those that want IFE with a far simpler system without 137+ units to fail.


User currently offlineWNCrew From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 1414 posts, RR: 9
Reply 5, posted (2 years 9 months 3 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 5845 times:

Quoting XT6Wagon (Reply 4):
I am 99% certain WN will never have IFE as its extra cost and source for extra customer disapointment when it fails.

The WiFi should fill the needs of those that want IFE with a far simpler system without 137+ units to fail.

Not to mention the additional weight of a compacted IFE system should that aircraft end up flying sub 1hr flights all day when IFE wouldn't even be worth it.



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User currently offline737tdi From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 639 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (2 years 9 months 3 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 5712 times:
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Quoting JetBlue777 (Reply 3):
Ah, thanks for the fast response!

And also, I never knew that WN modified their livery with the bags fly free thing, well just a bit but still

Only a few of the aircraft have that placard. It's just a sticker.


User currently offlineSXDFC From United States of America, joined Dec 2007, 2226 posts, RR: 19
Reply 7, posted (2 years 9 months 3 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 5396 times:

Quoting 737tdi (Reply 6):
Only a few of the aircraft have that placard. It's just a sticker.

A/C 290-949 wear the sticker, some a/c in between have it removed. Can you either provide the full version of the picture below, or the registration number, it looks like the plane in the picture is N917WN, in which I flew on last Dec.



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User currently offlineGSPflyer From United States of America, joined Jul 2010, 367 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (2 years 9 months 3 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 5272 times:

Since we're discussing wi-fi on WN's aircraft...

I am flying WN on July 20th (GSP-MDW-PHL), and was wondering hat are the chances that I get a wi-fi equipped flight? (Both flights are 73G). Also, WN says it is available for $5, so if both aircraft are equipped, will it cost $10 or $5? How does the service compare to Go-Go? At $5, seems like a hell of a deal.

Thanks in advance!


User currently offlineSXDFC From United States of America, joined Dec 2007, 2226 posts, RR: 19
Reply 9, posted (2 years 9 months 3 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 5248 times:

Quoting GSPflyer (Reply 8):

Too far in advance to tell which a/c is going to be operating that flight, however if your flight is PLANNED to be a Wi-Fi A/C then WN sends you an e-mail saying that you will be flying on a Wi-Fi A/C and provides you with the info for purchasing it on board. There are also signs on the Wi Fi A/C at the entrance doorway.



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User currently offlineGSPflyer From United States of America, joined Jul 2010, 367 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (2 years 9 months 3 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 5227 times:

Quoting SXDFC (Reply 9):

Thank you for your response, however, I asked what the chances of having a wi-fi equipped aircraft are. Do you know how many of the 73G's are equipped?

I wasn't aware they sent out an email, good to know! I just planned on looking for the hump on top of the aircraft while sitting at the gate.


User currently offlineSXDFC From United States of America, joined Dec 2007, 2226 posts, RR: 19
Reply 11, posted (2 years 9 months 3 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 5110 times:

Quoting GSPflyer (Reply 10):
Thank you for your response, however, I asked what the chances of having a wi-fi equipped aircraft are. Do you know how many of the 73G's are equipped?

Don't know the exact number however there are no specific routes that are only operated by Wi-Fi A/C, well that I am aware of. So if your flight is a -700 then there's a shot that you can get a -700 (Wi) however there has been times when I was supposed to fly on a -700 and ended up on a -300  



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User currently offlineatcsundevil From United States of America, joined Mar 2010, 989 posts, RR: 2
Reply 12, posted (2 years 9 months 3 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 5028 times:

Quoting GSPflyer (Reply 10):

Around PHX I've noticed quite a few that seem to be wifi equipped. Last time I was actually paying attention, it seemed that maybe 1/4-1/3 of the aircraft had them. Several in there were 733/735s which I assume they aren't fitting wifi to, but when passing quickly (now that most are wingleted), it's harder to tell the difference between the types (I guess the biggest difference is that the 73Gs have orange canoes on the wings and the 733/735s are grey, or so I'm told) -- surely someone from WN can give some accurate numbers.



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User currently offlineWNCrew From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 1414 posts, RR: 9
Reply 13, posted (2 years 9 months 3 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 4955 times:

Quoting atcsundevil (Reply 12):
PHX I've noticed quite a few that seem to be wifi equipped.
Quoting atcsundevil (Reply 12):
Several in there were 733/735s

I think there are about 80 -700's with WiFi installed at this time... I'm likely off by 10 or so, forgive me.

None of the Classics are fitted with WiFi at this time.



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User currently offlineseabosdca From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 5098 posts, RR: 4
Reply 14, posted (2 years 9 months 3 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 4893 times:

Quoting grain (Reply 2):
Thats the wifi antenna for the Row 44 internet.

What is the fuel burn penalty associated with having that thing on the fuselage?



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User currently offlinecessna2 From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 311 posts, RR: 2
Reply 15, posted (2 years 9 months 3 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 4765 times:

Quoting WNCrew (Reply 13):
None of the Classics are fitted with WiFi at this time.

Thats not entirely true...I flew a 300 from BUR to PHX in march and it was equipped with wi-fi...


User currently offlineWNCrew From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 1414 posts, RR: 9
Reply 16, posted (2 years 9 months 3 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 4736 times:

Quoting cessna2 (Reply 15):

Quoting WNCrew (Reply 13):
None of the Classics are fitted with WiFi at this time.

Thats not entirely true...I flew a 300 from BUR to PHX in march and it was equipped with wi-fi...

I'm sorry but you are mistaken, we currently do not have any CLASSICS equipped with Wifi. We are currently installing WiFi on the NG fleet ONLY. Our manuals have an entire section dedicated to the WiFi system and it is -700 specific. The company would have had to publish a manual revision letting us know that WiFi had been placed on the CLASSIC fleet as there are specific procedures involved with WiFi aircraft.



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User currently offlinejreuschl From United States of America, joined Jul 2009, 522 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (2 years 9 months 3 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 4644 times:

Quoting WNCrew (Reply 16):
Thats not entirely true...I flew a 300 from BUR to PHX in march and it was equipped with wi-fi...

I'm sorry but you are mistaken, we currently do not have any CLASSICS equipped with Wifi. We are currently installing WiFi on the NG fleet ONLY. Our manuals have an entire section dedicated to the WiFi system and it is -700 specific. The company would have had to publish a manual revision letting us know that WiFi had been placed on the CLASSIC fleet as there are specific procedures involved with WiFi aircraft.
WN does have 300s with winglets, that's probably why you thought it was a 733 and not a 737.

[Edited 2011-07-01 07:56:36]

User currently offline737tdi From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 639 posts, RR: 1
Reply 18, posted (2 years 9 months 3 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 4447 times:
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I can definately second WNCrew's statement, I was up to my elbows working on the orginal 2 aircraft as far as wire routing in the E & E compartments. Row 44 had routed the wiring to close to systems wiring (fuel qty. etc.) so we had to crawl all over taking pics. and marking added wiring and rerouting said wiring to acceptable positions.

User currently offlineB6JFKH81 From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 2848 posts, RR: 7
Reply 19, posted (2 years 9 months 3 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 4363 times:

Seeing this picture makes me think how B6 will incorporate the WiFi onto their aircraft. Will it be a separate large antenna like in the pic above...basically making the plane have a double hump? Or will there be a revision on the current antenna in incorporate the WiFi? I haven't seen ANY drawings yet...they're really keeping it hush hush LOL!!   


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User currently offline7673mech From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 696 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (2 years 9 months 3 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 4274 times:
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Quoting atcsundevil (Reply 12):
Around PHX I've noticed quite a few that seem to be wifi equipped. Last time I was actually paying attention, it seemed that maybe 1/4-1/3 of the aircraft had them.

Don't let the dome fool you.
Some aircraft are getting the equipment installed provisionally but not having it activated.
There are parts shortages at the current time.


User currently offline7673mech From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 696 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (2 years 9 months 3 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 4261 times:
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Quoting B6JFKH81 (Reply 19):
Seeing this picture makes me think how B6 will incorporate the WiFi onto their aircraft. Will it be a separate large antenna like in the pic above...basically making the plane have a double hump? Or will there be a revision on the current antenna in incorporate the WiFi? I haven't seen ANY drawings yet...they're really keeping it hush hush LOL!!

It will be incorporated with the current Live-TV system.
Continental aircraft with Live-TV are getting the same.

http://www.viasat.com/news/united-co...rcraft-using-viasat-ka-band-system


User currently offlineatcsundevil From United States of America, joined Mar 2010, 989 posts, RR: 2
Reply 22, posted (2 years 9 months 3 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 3587 times:

Quoting 7673mech (Reply 20):

Yeah I wasn't sure...I don't fly WN, just spend a lot of time around PHX, so I have no clue what's actually on the inside. So I suppose I should have said that I've noticed quite a few aircraft with the dome as opposed to saying they're wifi equipped.



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User currently offlineRamblinMan From United States of America, joined Oct 2010, 1138 posts, RR: 1
Reply 23, posted (2 years 9 months 3 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 3542 times:

Quoting XT6Wagon (Reply 4):
I am 99% certain WN will never have IFE as its extra cost and source for extra customer disapointment when it fails.

I agree. And having wifi is quite sufficient anyhow...in fact it's better as you can get work done as well as entertain yourself.

Quoting GSPflyer (Reply 8):
I am flying WN on July 20th (GSP-MDW-PHL), and was wondering hat are the chances that I get a wi-fi equipped flight? (Both flights are 73G).

Well, probably less-than-even chance, but with -700s you may be lucky.


User currently offline737tdi From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 639 posts, RR: 1
Reply 24, posted (2 years 9 months 3 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 3272 times:
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Quoting atcsundevil (Reply 22):
Yeah I wasn't sure...I don't fly WN, just spend a lot of time around PHX, so I have no clue what's actually on the inside. So I suppose I should have said that I've noticed quite a few aircraft with the dome as opposed to saying they're wifi equipped.

There is a "Satelite Antenna Assy., SAA" under that radome. I can't quote our manuals verbatim, but basically there is a gimbal mounted Ant. that can traverse vertically from 0 to 90 degs. and horizontally 360 deg. so as to keep the ant. pointed at the selected satelite. Imagine something similar to the weater radar mounted horizontally instead of verticaly. A very cool system if you want to do more research.


25 breaker1011 : I'd say this from my perspective: WiFi is one thing, but if WN equipped their entire fleet with an IFE seat back, the legacy carriers will have someth
26 Flytravel : Was that quicker or cheaper than GSP-BWI and taking Amtrak to Philly?
27 GSPflyer : My brother bought the ticket, and he insisted that I fly into PHL. I was going to fly into BWI and have him pick me up, but he figured it would be ch
28 mrskyguy : I learned from WN engineering that there's more to WN's choice to install on the NG's than the age of the aircraft alone. It was explained to me that
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