Voodoo From Niue, joined Mar 2001, 2011 posts, RR: 0 Reply 2, posted (12 years 5 months 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 877 times:
Sounds a bit haphazardy-PR to me.
Tho maybe I was right now that (re: Class1->Class 2) Atlanta is not on the cards immedietly... a 737 previously planned to be used to ATL can be added to any North American route that might `normally' require a L1011 ....
thus freeing the latter up for say....Manchester once a week or somesuch.
GKirk From UK - Scotland, joined Jun 2000, 24748 posts, RR: 57 Reply 3, posted (12 years 5 months 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 868 times:
I think maybe that BWIA should lease in a 763er to operate this route. The 763 being a perfect a/c for the route, with the L1011 costs maybe becoming too much for them to be operated into MAN profitably.
When you hear the noise of the Tartan Army Boys, we'll be coming down the road!
Trintocan From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2000, 3211 posts, RR: 4 Reply 4, posted (12 years 5 months 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 859 times:
A tricky one indeed. BWIA's current stae is not very promising and with the Category 2 downgrading it will not be able to expand into the US. Its ability to serve the UK is unaffected and it could open new routes to MAN.
As for the circumstances, that is the strange part. BWIA announced the route after jmc decided to drop TAB, a combined result of falling profitability and the retirements of the DC-10-30s bought from BA some years ago. There seems to be political goodwill on all sides but it must still be asked, how did they decide on that? If a charter company whose operating costs are generally lower can abandon the route, what about full-service BWIA? Furthermore, what plane would it use? With 2 TriStars down and out and the other 2 keeping the LHR service alive BWee should consider a newer plane for their services to MAN. It will be an expensive step there though.
Ceilidh From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 5, posted (12 years 5 months 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 860 times:
I understand that this service will start in January using L15s. Given that there are currently only two operational at the moment - and that they are fully committed on the London route - this means that they will have to return to service at least one of the stored aircraft. Unfortunately, they don't appear to have the money vailable to do that - or to lease in new aircraft.
BWIA330 From Canada, joined Jan 2001, 919 posts, RR: 0 Reply 6, posted (12 years 5 months 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 852 times:
Well now it has been said that Monarch Airlines has applied do to a route from the UK to Trinidad and Tobago. Not sure which airport but most likely Tobago. This route will most likely be operated with Monarch's A330-200. The only thing is that Monarch is looking for a tour operator to charter the planes out to fly. They are also considering Grenada too. If Monarch flies to POS or TAB, do you all think BWIA will need to do this route to MAN? Most likely the Monarch flight would be from MAN but thats a guess.
Trintocan From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2000, 3211 posts, RR: 4 Reply 8, posted (12 years 5 months 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 841 times:
If Monarch actually comes it is very likely to fly to TAB - POS simply does not have a consistent tourist market which could justify the charter flights. If it comes from MAN then it would have effectively pre-empted BWIA although the latter may still try to fly the route. The equipment issue that I raised earlier is all the more glaring though if BWIA is actually to fly the route.
Captaink From Mexico, joined May 2001, 5108 posts, RR: 12 Reply 11, posted (12 years 4 months 3 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 823 times:
Acutally JMC ended service to all caribbean islands if i am correct. The reason was that they are phasing out the DC-10. They are replacing them with A330 I think but for use on charter whitin Europe ad other eastern countries since that would be more profitable