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AF Resumes CDG-LIM  
User currently offlineSCL767 From Chile, joined Feb 2006, 8801 posts, RR: 5
Posted (3 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 6008 times:
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On June 21st, after a 16 year absence in Perú, AF resumed services between CDG and LIM. AF utilises the Boeing 777-200ER a/c on the route which operates 5x weekly; with a capacity for 309 passengers, and is equipped with three classes for the Peruvian market: the new class D' Affaires (Business), the Premium Voyageur class and the Voyageur class (Economy).


Air France KLM inauguró oficialmente nueva ruta aérea entre Lima y París




The CEO of Air France/KLM, Pierre Henri Gourgeon, said today that the strong demand for flights between París and Lima has resulted in a 100% occupancy rate with-in the first ten days of resuming operations between CDG and LIM. Air France/KLM now operates 12 weekly non-stop flights into Lima. AF/KL can now offer customers originating at LIM a choice of 254 destinations world-wide via Paris-Charles de Gaulle and Amsterdam-Schiphol. KLM currently operates AMS-LIM daily with the Boeing 777-200ER as well.



Air France-KLM destaca ocupabilidad del 100% en vuelos entre París y Lima

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User currently offlineSJOtoLIR From Costa Rica, joined Jul 2007, 4468 posts, RR: 4
Reply 1, posted (3 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 6052 times:

Quoting SCL767 (Thread starter):
On June 21st, after a 16 year absence in Perú, AF resumed services between CDG and LIM.


Great news for Lima !
I expect the response of Iberia itself upgrading their 10x weekly flights into LIM-MAD for the planned 14x weekly service in December, alongside with the code-share cooperation supplied by LP in such route.

Regards



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User currently offlineSCL767 From Chile, joined Feb 2006, 8801 posts, RR: 5
Reply 2, posted (3 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 6026 times:
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Quoting SJOtoLIR (Reply 1):
Great news for Lima !

Indeed, SkyTeam now offers 17 weekly flights between Europe and Perú! AF CDG-LIM 5x weekly, KL AMS-LIM daily and UX MAD-LIM 5x weekly. Actually both LP and TA are benefiting from AF's entrance into LIM. LP and TA have new interline agreements with AF which permits AF pax to book domestic and regional flights operated by both LP and TA via LIM. For example, a pax can book CDG-LIM-CUZ on AF.com, (CUZ segment operated by LP). TA also has an interline agreement with KL, thus a pax can book AMS-LIM-CUZ on KLM.com, (CUZ segment operated by TA).


User currently offlineAvianca From Venezuela, joined Jan 2005, 5925 posts, RR: 40
Reply 3, posted (3 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 5955 times:

Quoting SCL767 (Thread starter):
The CEO of Air France/KLM, Pierre Henri Gourgeon, said today that the strong demand for flights between París and Lima has resulted in a 100% occupancy rate with-in the first ten days of resuming operations between CDG and LIM

well not so sure about it... was on the first flight LIM-CDG and business was nearly empty and eco 2/3 full...
flight back was fully booked but with a lot of non rev in business...

anyhow nice to have them back here in LIM, wish them the best.



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User currently offlineSCL767 From Chile, joined Feb 2006, 8801 posts, RR: 5
Reply 4, posted (3 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 5936 times:
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Quoting Avianca (Reply 3):
well not so sure about it... was on the first flight LIM-CDG and business was nearly empty and eco 2/3 full...
flight back was fully booked but with a lot of non rev in business...

Most likely French media and AF officials. AF has already stated that it plans on operating the route daily next year!


User currently offlineSPIM2EDDN From Germany, joined Mar 2008, 107 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (3 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 5860 times:

Quoting SJOtoLIR (Reply 1):
Great news for Lima !

Yes indeed. I wonder what the hell is LH still waiting for!  


User currently offlineSCL767 From Chile, joined Feb 2006, 8801 posts, RR: 5
Reply 6, posted (3 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 5818 times:
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Quoting SPIM2EDDN (Reply 5):
Yes indeed. I wonder what the hell is LH still waiting for!

Luckily, LAN Perú S.A. already offers a daily service between FRA and LIM with a rapid connection via MAD:
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User currently offlineSCL767 From Chile, joined Feb 2006, 8801 posts, RR: 5
Reply 7, posted (3 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 5791 times:
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FRA-MAD-LIM:
19:40 Frankfurt 22:25 Madrid LA0705 Daily (A343)
00:15 Madrid 05:30 Lima LA2707 Daily (B763)

LIM-MAD-FRA:
19:10 Lima 14:00+1 Madrid LA2706 Daily (B763)
15:15 Madrid 17:55 Frankfurt LA0704 Daily (A343)

*LA0704/LA0705 operated by LAN Airlines daily.
*LA2706/LA2707 operated by LAN Perú daily.



Rapid connections onto LA2706/LA2707 to/from Berlin (TXL), Düsseldorf (DUS) and München (MUC) are also available on a daily basis via MAD with IBERIA.

[Edited 2011-07-02 18:43:29]

User currently offlineAvianca From Venezuela, joined Jan 2005, 5925 posts, RR: 40
Reply 8, posted (3 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 5712 times:

Quoting SCL767 (Reply 6):
Luckily, LAN Perú S.A. already offers a daily service between FRA and LIM with a rapid connection via MAD:
Quoting SCL767 (Reply 7):
Rapid connections onto LA2706/LA2707 to/from Berlin (TXL), Düsseldorf (DUS) and München (MUC) are also available on a daily basis via MAD with IBERIA.

yes, and without a doubt the best connection I have to my home country germany, good service and on both directions redeyes.

and normally they have one of the better fares in the market, I love to take this flight!

So now only waiting that LH is coming back, also waiting that finally TK anounce a flight and finally EK!



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User currently offlineSJOtoLIR From Costa Rica, joined Jul 2007, 4468 posts, RR: 4
Reply 9, posted (3 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 5588 times:

Quoting SPIM2EDDN (Reply 5):
I wonder what the hell is LH still waiting for


The LH code is now appearing in one of the two-daily flights on AV BOG-LIM-BOG, in order to match LH FRA-BOG that just began again in October 2010.
However, Star Alliance in Lima is evidently behind both One World and SkyTeam in those operations linking Peru and Europe as non-stops.

Regards.



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User currently offlineAvianca From Venezuela, joined Jan 2005, 5925 posts, RR: 40
Reply 10, posted (3 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 5562 times:

Quoting SJOtoLIR (Reply 12):
The LH code is now appearing in one of the two-daily flights on AV BOG-LIM-BOG, in order to match LH FRA-BOG that just began again in October 2010.

after already have the code on the TA flights CCS-LIM-CCS and GRU-LIM-GRU.... that is not the right move, we need a own LH flight!



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User currently offlineSPIM2EDDN From Germany, joined Mar 2008, 107 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (3 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 day ago) and read 4763 times:

Quoting SCL767 (Reply 6):
Luckily, LAN Perú S.A. already offers a daily service between FRA and LIM with a rapid connection via MAD:

Yes, and LA is nowadays my number one choice... but still, that's not good enough!

Quoting Avianca (Reply 10):
we need a own LH flight!

  


Personally, I think the best move LA could possibly do is starting a non-stop LIM-FRA service as soon as the 787 arrives. They should forget about MAD, they can still fly there with the 767. LH has been ignoring LIM too long and someone should punish them for that  
Quoting SCL767 (Thread starter):
On June 21st, after a 16 year absence in Perú, AF resumed services between CDG and LIM

Now back to AF. So I think this pretty much is the end for LA's CDG service, or is a flight SCL-CDG or LIM-CDG flight in the near future with 787 still possible?


User currently offlineSJOtoLIR From Costa Rica, joined Jul 2007, 4468 posts, RR: 4
Reply 12, posted (3 years 1 month 3 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 4470 times:

Quoting SPIM2EDDN (Reply 11):
LH has been ignoring LIM too long and someone should punish them for that


LIM may become a strategical station for LH and Star Alliance if TACA effectively goes to Star Alliance in the future, taking into account the operations supplied by TA there.
At this time, TA LIM-GRU, TA LIM-CCS and AV LIM-BOG already bear the LH code and the next step may consist in dedicated flights on LH FRA-LIM, regarding the operations named Lima-Europe assumed by One World and SkyTeam as pointing out before.
The new AF LIM-CDG 5x weekly with 772 is like a light flashing a warning for LH in the future.

Regards.



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User currently offlineAvianca From Venezuela, joined Jan 2005, 5925 posts, RR: 40
Reply 13, posted (3 years 1 month 3 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 3874 times:

Quoting SPIM2EDDN (Reply 11):
Now back to AF. So I think this pretty much is the end for LA's CDG service, or is a flight SCL-CDG or LIM-CDG flight in the near future with 787 still possible?

well the CDG service is already cut, so lets see what is happening, but with now nonstop flights by AF ex SCL and LIM, it will be hard... also AF has its own flights ex BOG and EZE nonstop... so maybe a UIO-GYE-MAD-GYE could make sense...?



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User currently offlineRAGAZZO777 From Uruguay, joined Jul 2010, 584 posts, RR: 1
Reply 14, posted (3 years 1 month 3 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 2628 times:

Interesting thread. It's great to have Air France back here in Lima. I also think that LH should launch its own FRA-LIM flights as soon as possible, as both SkyTeam and oneworld are rapidly gaining ground on the Peru-Europe market.


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User currently offlineLipeGIG From Brazil, joined May 2005, 11429 posts, RR: 58
Reply 15, posted (3 years 1 month 3 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 2551 times:
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Quoting SCL767 (Thread starter):
On June 21st, after a 16 year absence in Perú, AF resumed services between CDG and LIM. AF utilises the Boeing 777-200ER a/c on the route which operates 5x weekly; with a capacity for 309 passengers, and is equipped with three classes for the Peruvian market: the new class D' Affaires (Business), the Premium Voyageur class and the Voyageur class (Economy

Good to see another market with additional service to Europe thanks to AF/KL and their extensive coverage of South America (considering the airlines without historical ties like IB and TP, AF/KL have an impressive operation to South America).
LIM is a booming market and we can see even more from AF/KL in the future.



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User currently offlineSCL767 From Chile, joined Feb 2006, 8801 posts, RR: 5
Reply 16, posted (3 years 1 month 3 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 2528 times:
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Quoting LipeGIG (Reply 15):
Good to see another market with additional service to Europe thanks to AF/KL and their extensive coverage of South America

Indeed, it's great news for Perú! AF/KL now offer pax traveling to/from LIM connections to a plethora of destinations worldwide via AMS and CDG. Whereas, IB focuses mostly on VFR traffic and offers limited connections via MAD.


User currently offlineRAGAZZO777 From Uruguay, joined Jul 2010, 584 posts, RR: 1
Reply 17, posted (3 years 1 month 3 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 2522 times:

Quoting SCL767 (Reply 16):
Whereas, IB focuses mostly on VFR traffic and offers limited connections via MAD.

And that's why LAN has to fly to LHR from LIM (and SCL) as soon as possible. Wether we like it or not, LHR offers far more connections than MAD.



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User currently offlineLipeGIG From Brazil, joined May 2005, 11429 posts, RR: 58
Reply 18, posted (3 years 1 month 2 weeks 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 2122 times:
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Quoting RAGAZZO777 (Reply 17):
And that's why LAN has to fly to LHR from LIM (and SCL) as soon as possible. Wether we like it or not, LHR offers far more connections than MAD.

Would be a great addition and would allow MAD to deal more with the strong O&D to Spain and offer a more competitive product (covering two markets as AF/KL). AF in my view is just filling the gap and as LA in the near past showed focus to open a product to CDG, they did before to create a competitive advantage and to place a small barrier to LA.



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User currently offlineAvianca From Venezuela, joined Jan 2005, 5925 posts, RR: 40
Reply 19, posted (3 years 1 month 2 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 1907 times:

Quoting SCL767 (Reply 16):
, IB focuses mostly on VFR traffic and offers limited connections via MAD

well maybe they do not have the same connections than CDG has, but limited .. I am not so sure, IB is offering all over Europe, and some good Africa connections out of MAD



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