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Should More International Airlines Use BWI?  
User currently offlineswedenflyer From United States of America, joined Dec 2010, 58 posts, RR: 0
Posted (3 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 2257 times:

Currently, AC, BA, JM, and U5 are the only international carriers flying to Baltimore-Washington International Airport. A few years ago, airlines like FI, LY, EI, and even GL had services to BWI. My question is, should any of these services be restarted? What other airlines would do well at BWI? Tell me what you think.


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User currently offlineCitationJet From United States of America, joined Mar 2003, 2432 posts, RR: 3
Reply 1, posted (3 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 2218 times:

There was a thread earlier this year about the lack of international service at BWI. It had 99 replies.

http://www.airliners.net/aviation-fo...chid=5027620&s=baltimore#ID5027620



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User currently offlinejetblast From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 1231 posts, RR: 10
Reply 2, posted (3 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 2163 times:

JM and U5 no longer fly here. It is only QK and BA now.

Icelandair decided one day to pick up and move to IAD, and screwed themselves over. I would be surprised if they came back.



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User currently offlinemogandoCI From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (3 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 1989 times:

1. IAD is closer than BWI to DC downtown

2. No legacy hubs at BWI to provide feed, and WN effect discourage legacies from even attempting to hub there.

3. BWI's catchment that doesn't overlap with IAD/PHL is small (wide area but thin population)

4. Baltimore's economy isn't exactly going anywhere. DC's growth has benefited Virginia but not exactly its northern neighbor.

All that being said, I can see KL/AF attempting a 3x weekly A332 service.


User currently offlineLawair From United States of America, joined Jan 2009, 198 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (3 years 1 month 2 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 1773 times:

Unless/Until Baltimore becomes an internationally recognized destination in its own right, US carriers will probably find more success with international routes from BWI than would foreign carriers, unless the foreign carrier operates its BWI flights with a US carrier codeshare (ie. BA). I only say this because Baltimore is probably more of an origination point for international traffic than it is a destination, and those US originating passengers are probably more likely to use a US carrier to fly internationally (my guess) or will use a US codeshare flight (if they are federal contractors or employees flying for work, which is pretty sizable given the area).

Foreign carriers wanting to serve DC (and not Baltimore specifically) will probably simply start at IAD because that's where everyone goes and BWI doesn't have the critical mass of international passengers as IAD does. That doesn't mean every international carrier is going to do better at IAD than at BWI though. See JM and below:

Quoting jetblast (Reply 2):
Icelandair decided one day to pick up and move to IAD, and screwed themselves over. I would be surprised if they came back.

I guess the same could be said about EI on IAD-DUB too.
...and then IAD-MAD happened   


User currently offlinevinniewinnie From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 789 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (3 years 1 month 2 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 1675 times:

What BWI needs: Cheap landing fees, and a excellent railway connection to both Baltimore and Union Station.

BWI is "only" 28 miles from Washington, has a good catchment area (Anywhere north of Washington) and with an Arlanda Express type of service (24mi, 20 min journey time to downtown Stockholm) could effectively kill Dulles if it wanted to.


User currently offline757ops From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2006, 318 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (3 years 1 month 2 weeks 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 1298 times:

Could we see service to Africa from BWI again? How were the Ghana DC10 load factors on their ACC flights from BWI?

User currently offlineaf773atmsp From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 2663 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (3 years 1 month 2 weeks 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 1258 times:

I assume Air Greenland flew to BWI as a service to Washington D.C?


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User currently offlinedstc47 From Ireland, joined Sep 1999, 1469 posts, RR: 3
Reply 8, posted (3 years 1 month 2 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 1217 times:

Cant see EI returning to BWI, they tried it twice, dropped it twice. They then tried IAD and dropped that also. Consequently the local travel trade would be reluctant to give them much support for any new venture there.

Pity, as BWI serves a good catchment on the eastcoast with pretty good public transport links.


User currently offlineplanenutz From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (3 years 1 month 2 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 1183 times:

Isn't the daily BA service heavily subsidized by the Maryland state government? I doubt that BA would make money otherwise. Besides, I don't think I've ever seen the flight upgaged from its current 763. The only codeshare flight that's bookable through BA is BA8412/8411, a daily ER4 flight on American Eagle to/from JFK. Also, BWI seems to have plenty of seats available if you need to book award travel with BA Executive Club, leading me to believe that a lot of capacity on the route sits idle.

Seperate question: Does BA provide its own ground handling at BWI, above the wing at least?


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