Bokratensa From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Posted (12 years 8 months 1 week 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 2960 times:
I know that PanAm used to fly to Riyadh and Dubai in the early 80's. But most US carriers shun the Middle East these days. The exceptions is flights made to Cairo, Tel Aviv, and recent Delta trip to Dubai, via Cairo.
Is it a political or economic decision? Bombing activites agianst US carriers ceased a long time ago, and it is much safer now. If they can make it safely to Cairo and Tel Aviv, then they should not have problems landing in Jeddah and Bahrain. I know many people fly to between the Gulf and US, and they mostly use European carriers. Why can't American carriers take a bite of this market?
B747-437B From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (12 years 8 months 1 week 2 days ago) and read 2924 times:
The reason for this is primarily economic. The Middle Eastern carriers are highly subsidized by their respective governments and can essentially undercut the US carrier by a factor in double digits without raising an eyebrow. It is impossible to sustain high yields in such a market for that very reason. There are exceptions of course, such as Israel and Egypt. Ironically, TWA made its money off the RUH-CAI fifth freedom rights as much as they did with RUH-JFK traffic. The jury is still out on Dubai. Only time will tell if Delta can make it a success.
ScottB From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 6513 posts, RR: 33
Reply 5, posted (12 years 8 months 1 week 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 2853 times:
Don't forget that many of the large Middle Eastern countries that don't have U.S. carriers providing service aren't on terribly good terms with the U.S. either. Iraq? Iran? Syria? Lebanon? Yemen? Libya? Afghanistan? Sudan?
There's little money to be made on leisure traffic to the Middle East. There is certainly enhanced risk to carriers which fly to the Middle East, and the costs involved in maintaining enough security to keep your plane from being bombed or hijacked. And American carriers can expand their reach to the Middle East just as effectively by code-sharing with European and Middle Eastern carriers without exposing themselves to the risks