Sponsor Message:
Civil Aviation Forum
My Starred Topics | Profile | New Topic | Forum Index | Help | Search 
Why Is 1stClass In The Front Of An Aircraft?  
User currently offlineOO-VEG From Netherlands, joined Oct 2000, 1110 posts, RR: 1
Posted (13 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 3670 times:

Something I wonder for a while..
Is there any reason why all airlines put their First class and Business class in the front of the aircraft??

35 replies: All unread, showing first 25:
 
User currently offlineDocpepz From Singapore, joined May 2001, 1971 posts, RR: 3
Reply 1, posted (13 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 3596 times:

That's because of noise. It's usually less noisy in front or on the upper deck.

User currently offlineGunFighter 6 From Netherlands, joined Jan 2001, 404 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (13 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 3591 times:

I think it has something to do with getting on and off the aircraft very fast.  Smile
you are always the first to leave the A/C and that is most of the time preferable.

also the turbulence is much greater in the rear of the A/C. it often happens that the pilots do not notice any turbulence but the people in the back do.

those are just a few reasons i think.


User currently offlineBLACK BOX From Australia, joined Jun 2001, 176 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (13 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 3565 times:

1. So they don't have to walk as far as us plebs !!!

2. So they can watch us envying them as we walk past !!!

You would think though that they would put 'em around CoG for the smoother ride.


User currently offlineBlink182 From Azerbaijan, joined Oct 1999, 5482 posts, RR: 15
Reply 4, posted (13 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 3553 times:

to piss off the coach passengers  Smile
rgds,
blink182



Give me a break, I created this username when I was a kid...
User currently offlineBraniff727 From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 686 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (13 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 3529 times:

I would say it's a combinaton of factors.
Noise, less walking on and off the plane, close to a galley...

Also by making everyone walk through / past it, they may get the other passengers to buy a F ticket on their next trip. A marketing thing.



Climbing
User currently offlineB808/A400 From United States of America, joined May 2001, 83 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (13 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 3511 times:

On a DC-9 and it's long line of derivatives,
the first row of coach offers just as much leg
room as 1st class, and the same noise level.
I fly in those seats all the time and pay much
less than 1st.


User currently offlineBoeing747-400 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (13 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 3506 times:

The noise and what Gunfighter 6 said.

User currently offlineDeltaSFO From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 2488 posts, RR: 22
Reply 8, posted (13 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 3483 times:

What about Southwest? They have an all First Class configuration which stretches from the front of the aircraft to the back. So do the pax that sit at the back of the aircraft get mad? After all, they paid a lot for those First Class tickets.


It's a new day. Every moment matters. Now, more than ever.
User currently offlineILOVEA340 From United States of America, joined Oct 1999, 2100 posts, RR: 4
Reply 9, posted (13 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 3468 times:

There's something demoralizing about sitting in the back

User currently offlineWannabe From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 677 posts, RR: 3
Reply 10, posted (13 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 3461 times:

They do it so the first class passengers get to the destination airport ahead of everyone else. Smile

User currently offlineBryston From Canada, joined Mar 2001, 137 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (13 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 3438 times:

Also, fresh (or at least, cleaned) air come from the front of the aircraft and is take back by the filtering system at the rear.

Bryston



I'd rather be flying...
User currently offlineTupolev154B2 From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 1332 posts, RR: 2
Reply 12, posted (13 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 3436 times:

Well on widebodies Coach passengers often don't see the First Class seats as they often board directly into coach...

User currently offlineSuperg From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 58 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (13 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 3429 times:

Back in the prop days (1950s), coach seating on mixed-class flights was in the front of the aircraft. However, the main boarding door was also in the rear. Oddly
enough, the first class section was larger than the coach section in those days.


User currently offlineIainhol From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (13 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 3417 times:

Pecking order?
Iain


User currently offlineConcorde1518 From United States of America, joined May 2001, 746 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (13 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 3407 times:

Yah, Southwest and their All "First Class." With those seats, it's no wonder why they don't use that old "The Company Jet" Slogan aymore.

User currently offlineB747-437B From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (13 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 3388 times:

So the rich people die first in a nose dive.

User currently offline777guy From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 493 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (13 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day ago) and read 3341 times:

If 1st class was in rear they would be looking at us poor people up front instead of viseversal.

User currently offlineF-UXU From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (13 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day ago) and read 3336 times:

Trust me, if there's some good turbulence..the front feels it, too. And, not all of those people in first are rich, a lot of them have tickets paid for by their company, "free" earned upgrades, and many are airline employees on stand-by! Like me, lookin at all you paying customers pass me by, while I'm livin' large up front for FREE!

User currently offlineSxmarbury33 From United States of America, joined Oct 2000, 445 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (13 years 2 months 3 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 3319 times:

I think it is tradition. Im not being rasict but at around the same time planes were being designed for real comercial use blacks were still sitting in the back of the bus. Even having nothing to do with race i think it is a status thing to be sitting in the front instead of the back. Now today it is not anyhting like that but since the interiors were designed back in those days it has just kind of stuck. Also this is a small detail but some passengers dont want to sit in back because they think it is "stuffy" and this is usually not true but the airline dosnt care about what is true and not it cares about what might intice first class passengers to pay money to sit up front.

User currently offlineClimbout From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (13 years 2 months 3 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 3312 times:

ILOVEA340-

Demoralizing? That's interesting that you would say that, however this may not be the case if the plane were to crash being that the back is the safest place to sit. I'm sure there are lots of people who might have survived a plane crashed if they had been sitting in the back, rather than first class. I guess my question instead would be why are they charging more for people to sit in the most dangerous section of the aircraft?


User currently offlineILOVEA340 From United States of America, joined Oct 1999, 2100 posts, RR: 4
Reply 21, posted (13 years 2 months 3 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 3308 times:

I understand what you are saying... but look at it this way. Its the back. In the south in the 50's colored had to sit in the back of busses for example. it was demoralizing. The back of something is maily attributed as the poor or not as good part.

User currently offlineILOVEA340 From United States of America, joined Oct 1999, 2100 posts, RR: 4
Reply 22, posted (13 years 2 months 3 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 3306 times:

my last statement was to climbout not Sxmarbury

User currently offlineQantasAirways From Australia, joined Mar 2001, 1279 posts, RR: 3
Reply 23, posted (13 years 2 months 3 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 3275 times:

If an aircraft went down nose first, wouldn't they technically die first?
On a more serious note, probably so they could be more superior than Economy passengers with less noise and turbulence.
The day of the Titanic still has not changed.

Regards
QantasAirways



Spirit of Australia
User currently offlineClimbout From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 24, posted (13 years 2 months 3 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 3263 times:

ILOVEA340,

Very good points. Sitting in the back of something has always been demoralizing for the very reasons that you mentioned. But regarding an airliner, it's just ironic that On one hand, people sitting in the first class are getting better treatment, food, ect...but on the other hand they have a greater chance of perishing in a crash than the folks sitting in the back.

This is a very good topic.


25 Post contains images Critter592 : I agree with B747-436B. So they die first in a nose dive. Just like the USAir accident where some people in the very back lived and all in the front D
26 Sxmarbury33 : But a lot of people in first class survived while a lot of coach passengers died in that delta L1011 that encountered the microburst in DFW. I dont th
27 N312RC : Its because if and when an aircraft takes a nosedive, the First Class passengers get a quick and painless death, and are creamated for free.
28 Spaceman : Would you like to pay all that money to sit all the way in the back? I wouldn't think so. First Class people also get their own boarding path so they
29 Tupolev154B2 : At most airports FC don't get their own door...
30 Spk : But they can disembark before other passengers
31 L-188 : It is mostly for noise. On jets the front of the aircraft it usually the quietest. On props the front of the airplane is being pummelled by the vibrat
32 Trintocan : It may have to do with tradition but Aeroflot I think had its first class cabin in the rear during the Soviet days. In the event of a crash, no one se
33 OO-VEG : I believe the black box is located somewhere beneath the wings (correct me if I am wrong) because statistically that should be the safest place of the
34 L-188 : Nope all of the black boxes I have ever seen where in the tail.
35 Post contains images Ngr : I think there are a few reasons why first class is in the front: 1. First of all, they want everybody to have to go by the 1st class cabin so that all
Top Of Page
Forum Index

This topic is archived and can not be replied to any more.

Printer friendly format

Similar topics:More similar topics...
The 7E7 Is Here - In The Form Of An Airbus! posted Wed Aug 6 2003 02:25:41 by Speedbirdyvr
A Day In The Life Of An Aircraft posted Fri Jul 13 2001 18:45:55 by Uprightnlocked
What Is That In The Front Tires? posted Tue Oct 17 2006 19:29:38 by Flymario
AKL Airport Pic: Why Is A Plane In The Grass? posted Sun Oct 1 2006 00:55:43 by Dl757md
A Day In The Life Of An American B762 posted Mon Jul 31 2006 01:48:29 by ILUVAA
A Day In The Life Of An AC Passenger Agent posted Thu Dec 29 2005 03:09:01 by YUL2010
What Is Extended From The Back Of This Aircraft? posted Sun Mar 16 2003 18:44:09 by Lacke
Day In The Life Of A Commercial Aircraft posted Mon Jan 7 2002 21:44:32 by Bobbydgg
The Weighing Of An Aircraft. posted Fri Mar 2 2001 17:39:58 by Thom@s
Design The Tail Of An SN Aircraft. posted Fri Jul 14 2006 17:50:02 by Manni