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User currently offlinewedgetail737 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 5901 posts, RR: 6
Posted (3 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 15347 times:
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Prince William and Princess Kate has been touring North America (Canada and Los Angeles) for the last week or so. Why hasn't there been any pics taken of their aircraft, other than the Forward LH door of what appears to be an Airbus A310?

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User currently offlineYYCowboy From Canada, joined Aug 2006, 147 posts, RR: 2
Reply 1, posted (3 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 15286 times:

They have been escorted from the UK to Canada to the US on a Canadian Armed Forces (CAF) Polaris 150. This Polaris is the forces re branding of A310. Several are in the fleet.
Most of the flying has been done on the Polaris, but a few legs within Canada were on a Challanger, not shure what model.
Canadian press have covered their tour extensivley, as such, lots of tarmack footage on the news. The aircraft was clean and sparkling, looked very nice.
Likely, A.Netters find this event Ho Hum and there are plenty of photos of these CAF aircraft in the data base.
With a stunning beauty like Catherine, de plaining, to hell with the aircraft, zoom in on the stairs please.

I am wondering, what these planes are like inside, what kind of catering they get. Lie flat seats? Suites?



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User currently offlineRJLover From Canada, joined Dec 2006, 576 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (3 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 15152 times:

Quoting wedgetail737 (Thread starter):
Why hasn't there been any pics taken of their aircraft, other than the Forward LH door of what appears to be an Airbus A310?

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Neither of those photos were taken on this tour, but were pulled right out of the database.

Quoting YYCowboy (Reply 1):
Most of the flying has been done on the Polaris, but a few legs within Canada were on a Challanger, not shure what model.

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User currently offlinePlainplane From United States of America, joined Mar 2008, 838 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (3 years 1 month 3 weeks ago) and read 15021 times:

Anyone know if Orlando is on the royal itinerary?

User currently offlineConfuscius From United States of America, joined exactly 13 years ago today! , 3853 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (3 years 1 month 3 weeks ago) and read 14941 times:

Quoting Plainplane (Reply 3):
Anyone know if Orlando is on the royal itinerary?

No, they head home tomorrow from Los Angeles. Besides Disney has their own princess and castle.



Ain't I a stinker?
User currently offlineSPQR From Canada, joined Jun 2011, 101 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (3 years 1 month 2 weeks 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 14861 times:

This is turning into a military thread  
They also flew on a CH-146 Griffon, a CH-149 Cormorant as well as a float plane (sorry don't know what type). There was a woman hurt during the Cormorant landing rehersal when a sign blew over and gave her severe head injuries.

William flew a CH-124 Sea King to try his hand at water landings, which, from what I understand, the RAF does not practice.

They are flying home on the Polaris.


User currently offlineKELPkid From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 6372 posts, RR: 3
Reply 6, posted (3 years 1 month 2 weeks 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 14839 times:

Amazingly enough, a picture of the Canadian Militarized A310 showed up in a board book (about front-end loaders!) that my wife checked from the library out for my son...we were reading about how front end loaders are used to shovel away snow on the ramp, and there's a picture of a front end loader next to that cool grey A310 up north  


Celebrating the birth of KELPkidJR on August 5, 2009 :-)
User currently offlineRJLover From Canada, joined Dec 2006, 576 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (3 years 1 month 2 weeks 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 14749 times:

Quoting SPQR (Reply 5):
as well as a float plane (sorry don't know what type).

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They flew on an Air Tindi Twotter during their stay in the great white north! The top picture is the most recent, just after it got a new paint job in YYC (the floats have been put back on since).



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User currently offlinemariner From New Zealand, joined Nov 2001, 25129 posts, RR: 85
Reply 8, posted (3 years 1 month 2 weeks 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 14702 times:
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No photos but there's a good description of the interior of the CC-150 Polaris 001 (A310) here:

http://www.theprovince.com/entertain...s+royals+refuge/5049422/story.html

"Canada's CC-150 Polaris 001 has become like a haven for the royal couple during the whirlwind tour, says the pilot of the jet that's been shuttling the Duke and Duchess of Cambridge across the country.

Lt.-Col. Andy Cook told Postmedia News on Monday that Will and Kate are using the unglamorous aircraft's surroundings, usually reserved for the prime minister, as a tranquil refuge between their very public appearances."


And there's a shower if they want one. There's an inset photo of the bed here:

http://www.hollywoodlife.com/2011/07...william-kate-airplane-canada-tour/

mariner

[Edited 2011-07-09 21:52:32]


aeternum nauta
User currently offlineConfuscius From United States of America, joined exactly 13 years ago today! , 3853 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (3 years 1 month 2 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 14602 times:

Quoting mariner (Reply 8):
There's an inset photo of the bed here:

Could they be members of the mile-high club?

Never mind...

" I tell you when they walk on the airplane, they go in there and the door closes and except for one steward that serves them personally—if they want a coffee or something like that—they are on their own. And they are no longer the Duke and Duchess and they are just a newly married couple.”

[Edited 2011-07-09 22:29:10]


Ain't I a stinker?
User currently offlinepnwtraveler From Canada, joined Jun 2007, 2235 posts, RR: 12
Reply 10, posted (3 years 1 month 2 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 13855 times:

William and Kate were visiting Canada on behalf of the Queen, in her role as Queen of Canada. William is heir and one day will be King of Canada. Hence the travel on Canadian Forces and government of Canada aircraft. As the pics in the above link show, the aircraft is quite utilitarian and can be configuered a few different ways. As a courtesy when they arrived at LAX they were met by Canadian Consular officials, and I believe the Queen's Private Secretary (a voluntary and unpaid position) accompanied them. This is normal when a royal is visiting Canada on official business. When they are in Canada on personal or vacation time different arrange

They were handed over to British Consular staff as the LAX portion of the trip was for William and Harry's Foundation and the government of Britain. It would be a bit unusual for a Canadian government aircraft to then do the leg home since they aren't in LA on Canadian business. I presume Britain is sharing in the expenses for the LA portion of the aircraft. If they are flying the Polaris home it may have been easier and less costly than chartering a BA or Virgin aircraft.


User currently offlinerwy04lga From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 3176 posts, RR: 8
Reply 11, posted (3 years 1 month 2 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 13804 times:

Quoting Confuscius (Reply 4):
Besides Disney has their own princess and castle.

The Duchess of Cambridge is not yet styled a princess.



Just accept that some days, you're the pigeon, and other days the statue
User currently offlinemariner From New Zealand, joined Nov 2001, 25129 posts, RR: 85
Reply 12, posted (3 years 1 month 2 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 13786 times:
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Quoting rwy04lga (Reply 11):
The Duchess of Cambridge is not yet styled a princess.

Right. She is - officially - the Princess William, just as Diana, Princess of Wales was - officially - the Princess Charles.

mariner

[Edited 2011-07-10 12:50:42]


aeternum nauta
User currently onlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 25162 posts, RR: 22
Reply 13, posted (3 years 1 month 2 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 12298 times:

Quoting Confuscius (Reply 4):
they head home tomorrow from Los Angeles

Several news reports said they were returning from LAX to LHR on a scheduled BA flight.


User currently offlineaaway From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 1522 posts, RR: 14
Reply 14, posted (3 years 1 month 2 weeks 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 10101 times:

Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 13):
Several news reports said they were returning from LAX to LHR on a scheduled BA flight.

Those news reports are indeed correct  



With a choice between changing one's mind & proving there's no need to do so, most everyone gets busy on the proof.
User currently onlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 25162 posts, RR: 22
Reply 15, posted (3 years 1 month 2 weeks 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 10001 times:

Quoting aaway (Reply 14):
Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 13):
Several news reports said they were returning from LAX to LHR on a scheduled BA flight.

Those news reports are indeed correct

Excerpt from recent news report. Another report said the flight took off shortly after 4 PM so it must have been BA278 (744).

Shaking hands and saying goodbye to officials on the tarmac, the royal newlyweds, both 29, who also traveled to Canada, boarded a British Airways flight at Los Angeles International Airport and flew away Sunday afternoon.


User currently offlineVV701 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2005, 7471 posts, RR: 17
Reply 16, posted (3 years 1 month 2 weeks 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 9488 times:

Quoting mariner (Reply 12):
Right. She is - officially - the Princess William

Catherine is not a Princess, Formally she is Her Royal Highness Catherine, The Duchess of Cambridge, Countess of Strathearn and Baroness Carrickfergus. Her husband is formally His Royal Highness Prince William of Wales, The Duke of Cambridge, Earl of Strathearn and Baron Carrickfergus.

Any direct comparison with Princess Diana is incorrect. This is because Diana married the heir to the throne. Their marriage was a State Occasion. Prince William is not the heir to the throne. His marriage to Catherine was not a State Occasion.

It is almost certain that Catherine will be given the title HRH Princess Catherine when Prince William becomes heir to the Throne. This will be when his grandmother, Queen Elizabeth, dies or, should he pre-decease his own mother, when Prince Charles dies.


User currently offlineaaway From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 1522 posts, RR: 14
Reply 17, posted (3 years 1 month 2 weeks 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 9407 times:

Quoting AirCalSNA (Reply 16):
"Royalty" is a ridiculous relic ... makes me glad to be an American.

I'm a proud American as well...but also damn grateful I had the opportunity to see a future king and queen up close this afternoon.



With a choice between changing one's mind & proving there's no need to do so, most everyone gets busy on the proof.
User currently offlinemariner From New Zealand, joined Nov 2001, 25129 posts, RR: 85
Reply 18, posted (3 years 1 month 2 weeks 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 9258 times:
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Quoting VV701 (Reply 18):
Catherine is not a Princess, Formally she is Her Royal Highness Catherine, The Duchess of Cambridge, Countess of Strathearn and Baroness Carrickfergus. Her husband is formally His Royal Highness Prince William of Wales, The Duke of Cambridge, Earl of Strathearn and Baron Carrickfergus.

No, she is not a princess in her own right.

However, a married woman always takes her husband's title. So Diana, Princess of Wales was never a princess in he own right, nor was she ever created as such, despite her husband being heir apparent. But she was the Princess Charles.

http://www.baronage.co.uk/bphtm-01/princess.html

"(It is probably appropriate here, while describing the new position, to explain that the Princess of Wales, during her marriage, has been always and only HRH The Princess of Wales. She has never been "Princess Diana" - for the style of "Princess Own-christian-name" in the United Kingdom can come only with birth, never with marriage, as is evident from the style of others who became princesses by marriage and are known accordingly as "Princess Husband's-christian-name".)"

Prince William asked his grandmother to make Catherine a princess in her own right, but it sets a precedent, and Sophie, Countess of Wessex might have gone nuclear if it had happened - she is married to a prince.

If David Beckham became a knight - Sir David Beckham - Posh Spice would not be Lady Victoria, she would be Lady Beckham, or Victoria, Lady Beckham.

mariner

[Edited 2011-07-10 17:56:00]


aeternum nauta
User currently offlinewashingtonian From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (3 years 1 month 2 weeks 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 8907 times:

Wonder what class they were in on that BA flight. The press made a big deal about them flying economy within Europe on holiday...Somehow I doubt they were in the back for the 10 hour flight back to London...

User currently offlineConfuscius From United States of America, joined exactly 13 years ago today! , 3853 posts, RR: 1
Reply 20, posted (3 years 1 month 2 weeks 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 8639 times:

Quoting washingtonian (Reply 21):
Wonder what class they were in on that BA flight.

Does BA have steerage?



Ain't I a stinker?
User currently offlineAirCalSNA From United States of America, joined Mar 2010, 334 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (3 years 1 month 2 weeks 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 8278 times:

Quoting mariner (Reply 20):
No, she is not a princess in her own right.

However, a married woman always takes her husband's title. So Diana, Princess of Wales was never a princess in he own right, nor was she ever created as such, despite her husband being heir apparent. But she was the Princess Charles.

http://www.baronage.co.uk/bphtm-01/princess.html

"(It is probably appropriate here, while describing the new position, to explain that the Princess of Wales, during her marriage, has been always and only HRH The Princess of Wales. She has never been "Princess Diana" - for the style of "Princess Own-christian-name" in the United Kingdom can come only with birth, never with marriage, as is evident from the style of others who became princesses by marriage and are known accordingly as "Princess Husband's-christian-name".)"

Prince William asked his grandmother to make Catherine a princess in her own right, but it sets a precedent, and Sophie, Countess of Wessex might have gone nuclear if it had happened - she is married to a prince.

If David Beckham became a knight - Sir David Beckham - Posh Spice would not be Lady Victoria, she would be Lady Beckham, or Victoria, Lady Beckham.

I rest my case.  


User currently offlinecaljn From United States of America, joined Oct 2007, 208 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (3 years 1 month 2 weeks 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 8279 times:

Quoting mariner (Reply 17):
Quoting mariner (Reply 17):

I don't know what that has to do with aviation, but, happily for you, you are American.
Quoting AirCalSNA (Reply 16):
"Royalty" is a ridiculous relic ... makes me glad to be an American.

Please excuse the dolt. He is evidently accustomed to American royalty, namely marginal talents standing before a camera while reciting dialogue written by someone else, designed to appeal to the widest audience.   


User currently offlinemariner From New Zealand, joined Nov 2001, 25129 posts, RR: 85
Reply 23, posted (3 years 1 month 2 weeks 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 8351 times:
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Quoting AirCalSNA (Reply 23):
I rest my case.

I dunno what that shows. It happens in the US, too. When a woman marries Mr. Smith, say, she takes her husband's name and becomes Mrs. Smith.

She can opt out, of course. But that's true in the UK too, and of titles. The children of Princess Anne could have had titles, but their mother said no. So they don't.

mariner

[Edited 2011-07-10 18:37:06]


aeternum nauta
User currently offlineytz From Canada, joined Jun 2009, 1990 posts, RR: 24
Reply 24, posted (3 years 1 month 2 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 8240 times:

Quoting aaway (Reply 19):
I'm a proud American as well...but also damn grateful I had the opportunity to see a future king and queen up close this afternoon.

That's alright. You enjoy the myriad of issues that come with a divided house that is the republican system of government. Just look at the mess you have passing a budget and raising the debt ceiling. That kind of fractitious politics is unheard of in Westminster Parliamentary politics.

So you can keep your ways and we'll enjoy the stability that comes with a constitutional monarchy. Have a look around the world. You'll quickly see that some of the most peaceful and prosperous places on earth are constitutional monarchies....including a number of American allies.

By the way, far too often, Americans (and their republican cohorts elsewhere) seem to mistake the person with the institution. The monarchy is far bigger than any one individual who occupies the role, but for a blip in time.


25 skymiler : Just 1 of the CC-150's is set up as the "Taj Mahal" for dignitaries. The rest are effectively military transports (but without some of the self-protec
26 777STL : I said this in the previous thread, but for whatever innane reason, that thread was deleted. My guess is they had the entire first class section in t
27 isitsafenow : That's how I saw the departure back to Great Britain. safe
28 sq_ek_freak : I had heard that when traveling on the 747 they block the entire Upper Deck and "slum it" in Club World - it's more private that way. Any truth to th
29 Post contains links 777STL : Well, according to the Daily Mail, they flew in first. If they were going to block off a cabin, I would think it would make more sense to block off f
30 richierich : As the UK and the US have so much in common, this discussion is moot and can be argued from many different angles. The US based their whole independe
31 777STL : I've heard they specifically avoid putting both on the same flight for that very reason, but I'm sure it's happened in the past, especially when Will
32 Post contains links VV701 : I would imagine that the Royal Party would number more than 14. After all when President Obama came to the UK his party numbered more than 500 includi
33 exFATboy : In the time between her divorce (28 Aug 1996) and her death (31 Aug 1997), Diana's official title and style, per a decree from Buckingham Palace, was
34 mariner : One mo' time - she was Diana, Princess of Wales. She was never officially styled Princess Diana. The title "Princess" can only come with birth - as h
35 ghYHZ : It wasn’t deleted......just moved to the Non-Aviation Forum......and it looks like this one is probably headed in the same direction! I was the OP
36 Post contains images afbua1k2mm : 777STL "Well, according to the Daily Mail, they flew in first. If they were going to block off a cabin, I would think it would make more sense to bloc
37 sq_ek_freak : Wow didn't realize there was such a small gap between her divorce and her death. So sad. One would think that they wouldn't William and Harry to trav
38 ytz : It's sad that they have to put on such shows so that people see them as "regular" folk. That's nonsense. And it's just bad for all involved. It's a ni
39 aussieindc : I expect that this was planned, and that FIRST had been blocked off for quite some time. As such, minimal inconvenience occurred. I'd suggest that th
40 ba1978 : Not entirely true. The Queen can style anyone a Prince or Princess in their own right by issuing Letters Patent. A notable example being Prince Phill
41 mariner : Prince Philip was born a prince. He was born Prince Philip of of Greece and Denmark. mariner
42 Post contains images richierich : ??? This doesn't really make a lot of sense because this would imply BA has a dedicated plane for VIP movements and that simply isn't the case. I thi
43 sq_ek_freak : Interesting stuff. Incidentally, do other senior members of the royal family (aka when Prince Harry went to NY for his official visit) get the same tr
44 ytz : Why does the jet have to be made in Britain for it to be justified? The RAF Royal Flight already carries them on Regional/Biz jets. If they simply ch
45 theginge : According to another forum there were pax in F Class as well other than the entourage.
46 Post contains links Viscount724 : This report (with link to the Daily Mail source) says the party included only 7 support staff in addition to the Royal couple. http://www.theglobeand
47 Bongodog1964 : As this was at LAX I would imagine the BA plane was at those strange remote gates out on the airfield, where you are bussed, walk up the ramp into a
48 ba1978 : Let me be more specific for you then... Queen Elizabeth II issued letters patent, dated 22 February 1957, creating Philip, Duke of Edinburgh, a Princ
49 Post contains links YVRLTN : Heres a bunch og photos of tehm on the Twotter. http://www.flickr.com/photos/jspitfire/5910867584/in/photostream
50 mariner : Yes, I know that. And he was born a prince. But we were discussing what happens in the case of marriage and a woman does not become a princess - in h
51 ba1978 : You missed the point. I was merely highlight the fact that your statement was not entirely true and that both the titles of Prince and Princess can b
52 Post contains links mariner : It wasn't originally my statement, it came from Baronage, as here: I was only discussing the title "princess" because the rules are somewhat differen
53 The777Man : I saw the Polaris 310 land at LAX last Friday; can someone give me the number or registration ? Thanks ! The777Man
54 Viscount724 : I'm pretty sure it was #15001. That was the A310 used on all their other flights.
55 The777Man : Thank you so much! The777Man
56 Post contains links sam1987 : If you're interested in the British Monarchy, all of the information about titles etc is on www.royal.gov.uk Also - if you go the the Court Circular,
57 VV701 : BA does indeed have a Royal Suite and converts an aircraft when it is leased to carry HM Queen Elizabeth on an official long haul flight. It is not u
58 sq_ek_freak : Really? You'd think their security detail would be more than just 2 or 3 - or are they not counted when speaking on their entourage? Any cases of mem
59 Post contains images Viscount724 : The Queen and I am sure other members of the Royal Family have flown AC on quite a few occasions, but I doubt they were scheduled flights. The Queen
60 VV701 : I would certainly agree. I cannot see how they can be included in the numbers reported by the Daily Mail. If they were then the maximum number of ind
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