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AirAsia X Leaving STN For LGW  
User currently offline9MMAR From Malaysia, joined Jul 2006, 2110 posts, RR: 18
Posted (3 years 1 month 2 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 12919 times:



Beginning 24 October 2011, all D7 flights to London will be via LGW instead of STN.

Key notes:
- Prelude to transatlantic service to the US?
- LGW has more European, Transatlantic and Caribbean flights to connect to D7 flights.

Other exciting news:

Quote:
In addition to this, JED is to be launched after Eid Fitr followed by KIX either to begin by year end or early 2012. These are all insider rumours.

Also, DAC (recently suspended by AK on very short notice) and KTM (2 failed starts due to so many bilateral problem) are to be operated by D7 Utilizing A321. Not sure when and as to how accurate it is but there is talk and a hint of the A321's coming on board was somewhat mentioned in one of D7's press release. Lets wait and see.

Special thanks to the forumers at MalaysianWings for the heads up.

[Edited 2011-07-11 15:25:06]

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User currently offlineMaverickM11 From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 17444 posts, RR: 46
Reply 1, posted (3 years 1 month 2 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 12834 times:

Quoting 9MMAR (Thread starter):
- Prelude to transatlantic service to the US?
- LGW has more European, Transatlantic and Caribbean flights to connect to D7 flights.

Seems more like an effort to make LON actually work; also seems like there have been a lot of schedule changes at D7 fairly quickly in new markets. I can't imagine it's that easy to interline with D7?



E pur si muove -Galileo
User currently offlineiclcy From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2006, 256 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (3 years 1 month 2 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 12830 times:

Glad to hear that.

LGW is so much better connected than STN in terms of airlines & public transport.

LGW also offers up so many more opportunities.

Could D7 do LGW-CMB-KUL or LGW-BKK-KUL even LGW-MLE-KUL(once or twice a week)

or the other way continue from LGW onto YTO, NYC etc


User currently offlinesignol From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2007, 3003 posts, RR: 8
Reply 3, posted (3 years 1 month 2 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 12809 times:

No! The only long haul flight from either of my 2 closest airports is to leave  

signol



Flights booked: none :(
User currently offlineTeamInTheSky From United States of America, joined Apr 2011, 534 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (3 years 1 month 2 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 12808 times:

Great news for LGW. I look forward to when LGW is done with its capital project and has new flights with Air Asia X and VN!


Since 2010: DL, KL, AF, WX, IG, FR , FL, U2, AK, BA, OK, UX, VS, VN, K6
User currently offlineMikey86 From Australia, joined Jul 2011, 160 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (3 years 1 month 2 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 12608 times:

Good decision IMO. LGW has way better connections for air and land as stated above.


mikey86 - Greenslopes, Queensland
User currently offlineIndianicWorld From Australia, joined Jun 2001, 2957 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (3 years 1 month 2 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 12117 times:

This was a wise move IMHO.

STN is a good airport, but yields wise I can not see it stacking up as well as LGW can.

Good luck D7 with the shift.


User currently offlinerichcandy From UK - England, joined Aug 2001, 719 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (3 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 11559 times:

Quoting MaverickM11 (Reply 1):
Seems more like an effort to make LON actually work; also seems like there have been a lot of schedule changes at D7 fairly quickly in new markets. I can't imagine it's that easy to interline with D7?

Hi

I think (for what its worth) that AirAsia X still have a problem it the UK in that people don't know who they are, or if they do that they fly to London.

I flew STN-KUL-ORY with them over the Easter holidays. I was in economy class on the outbound and it was empty 3 seats per passenger. At that time of the year it should of been full with leisure travellers, backpackers families etc.

Moving from STN to LGW might help them attract a few more passengers, who maybe won't travel out to STN, but will it make that big a difference? I don't think it will. Again just my view the problem with long haul low cost is that the airline has to make the cost a lot lower that the traditional carrier. I just think that people are happy to pay a few pounds more and get meals drinks etc on a 13 hrs flight and fly on MH, TG, BR etc

Alex


User currently offlineLGW340 From United Kingdom, joined May 2007, 315 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (3 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 11033 times:

Glad my local is getting D7 . Will be great when Vietnam start too


Live life from the window seat...
User currently offlineAirNZ From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (3 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 10917 times:

Quoting MaverickM11 (Reply 1):
Seems more like an effort to make LON actually work;

I've never seen any airline who couldn't make London work! If not, it shouldn't be in the airline business.


User currently offlinesantos From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2007, 740 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (3 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 10609 times:

Quoting AirNZ (Reply 9):
I've never seen any airline who couldn't make London work! If not, it shouldn't be in the airline business.

Oasis Hong Kong, Zoom, Czech Airlines, Transavia, plenty more...

[Edited 2011-07-12 05:07:48]

User currently offlineSKAirbus From Norway, joined Oct 2007, 1709 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (3 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 10174 times:

LGW is definitely a wise choice... The area of the country Stansted is (Essex, Cambridgeshire) is far less populated than Gatwick, which is located on the Surrey - West Sussex border in the middle of the very densely populated commuter belt into London.

I live between Heathrow and Gatwick, so any new service to either just expands all the travel opportunities  



Next Flights: LHR-OSL (319-BA), OSL-LHR (319-BA), LHR-IAH (744-BA), MSY-LGA (319-DL), JFK-LHR (744-BA)
User currently offlinefrenchpilot From France, joined Aug 2004, 84 posts, RR: 1
Reply 12, posted (3 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 10145 times:

Any ties coming up with easyJet? Few months back, they were advertising in easyJet's inflight magazine...
Looking now at the fact that AirAsia has 2 destinations in europe, both being easyJet hubs.

[Edited 2011-07-12 05:58:57]


"Sur votre gilet vous trouverez un sifflet pour attirer les poissons..."
User currently offlineRichard28 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2003, 1617 posts, RR: 6
Reply 13, posted (3 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 10129 times:

I'm wondering if this change is in anyway due to VS, who have a 16% share in Air Asia X?

And in stretchingthis line of thought out further, if this is the case, whether Air Asia X, in doing this, could be bundled into any future VS led alliance?

maybe I'm reading too much into this... but the timing would fit?....


User currently offlineTeamInTheSky From United States of America, joined Apr 2011, 534 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (3 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 10062 times:

Quoting SKAirbus (Reply 11):
I live between Heathrow and Gatwick, so any new service to either just expands all the travel opportunities

I am near the same area, so unless flights are free, I don't go to LTN or STN. As a previoius poster said though, I would probably pay the extra bucks and fly either to earn miles through FlyingBlue or enjoy a flight on MH before I went the discount route.

The discount route is great to Spain....KUL is a different animal.



Since 2010: DL, KL, AF, WX, IG, FR , FL, U2, AK, BA, OK, UX, VS, VN, K6
User currently offlineTCASAlert From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (3 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 9929 times:

This is terrible news for STN and their expansion hopes. LGW may indeed have more flight connections, but it is not a nice airport to either get to or fly from IMO.

Would be great if they would start a MAN flight, getting a KUL-MAN service back after MH pulled out years ago would be great for connections onward to Oz/NZ.


User currently offlinewindian425 From Barbados, joined Dec 2006, 166 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (3 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 9827 times:

Looking forward to the start of this service... BGI-LGW-KUL..... Sounds good..

User currently offlineSKAirbus From Norway, joined Oct 2007, 1709 posts, RR: 1
Reply 17, posted (3 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 9747 times:

Quoting TCASAlert (Reply 15):
This is terrible news for STN and their expansion hopes. LGW may indeed have more flight connections, but it is not a nice airport to either get to or fly from IMO.

Gatwick is getting there.... There is a lot of renovation / expansion work going on in both North and South Terminals, instigated by the new owners of the airport.

My experience of Stansted is that although it may look nice from the outside, it is just chaos on the inside. The airport is almost 100% LCC/Charter traffic, which leads to mass queues at checkin, security and the queues for Passport Control at Stansted are the worst I have experienced at any UK airport.

I will never fly from STN again if I can help it!



Next Flights: LHR-OSL (319-BA), OSL-LHR (319-BA), LHR-IAH (744-BA), MSY-LGA (319-DL), JFK-LHR (744-BA)
User currently offlineMaverickM11 From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 17444 posts, RR: 46
Reply 18, posted (3 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 9319 times:

Quoting SKAirbus (Reply 11):
The area of the country Stansted is (Essex, Cambridgeshire) is far less populated than Gatwick, which is located on the Surrey - West Sussex border in the middle of the very densely populated commuter belt into London.

I assume this is why they moved it.

Quoting richcandy (Reply 7):
Moving from STN to LGW might help them attract a few more passengers, who maybe won't travel out to STN, but will it make that big a difference? I don't think it will

I'm not sure either.

Quoting TCASAlert (Reply 15):
LGW may indeed have more flight connections

I really don't think anyone is counting on connecting traffic for this flight. It's going to make money on local traffic and traffic beyond KUL on Air Asia affiliates.



E pur si muove -Galileo
User currently offlineAirNZ From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (3 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 9157 times:

Quoting SKAirbus (Reply 17):
The airport is almost 100% LCC/Charter traffic, which leads to mass queues at checkin, security and the queues for Passport Control at Stansted are the worst I have experienced at any UK airport.

Hate to ask, but why do you feel LCC/Charter's lead to mass queues at check-in.....considering most pax do it online? Am curious how you view LHR or LGW then, and especially you say STN is chaos!

Quoting santos (Reply 10):
Oasis Hong Kong, Zoom, Czech Airlines, Transavia, plenty more...

Except the actual underlying reasons are important.......it wasn't because it was London I'm afraid.


User currently offlinenclmedic From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2009, 342 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (3 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 8749 times:

Quoting 9MMAR (Thread starter):
Key notes:
- Prelude to transatlantic service to the US?
- LGW has more European, Transatlantic and Caribbean flights to connect to D7 flights.

I completely agree with your second point - LGW is a far better match for D7 in terms of its position for London, but in terms of connections? They don't currently operate any codeshares (as far as I'm aware) nor are they allianced. Who would feed their KUL flights? Obviously, perhaps this is something for the future.

In terms of TAtl flights, I very much doubt you'll see this happening any time soon. I think we'd all agree there is no place for business travel to the US ex-LGW (just look at how long BA stayed there with JFK) and what leisure traffic there is is fiercely protected by BA and VS, with the charter carriers taking the rest. I really doubt there's any room for D7 to play in that particular market, and as a relatively unknown carrier in the region it doesn't have a hope against the 'local' talent!


User currently offlineSKAirbus From Norway, joined Oct 2007, 1709 posts, RR: 1
Reply 21, posted (3 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 8749 times:

Quoting AirNZ (Reply 19):
Hate to ask, but why do you feel LCC/Charter's lead to mass queues at check-in.....considering most pax do it online? Am curious how you view LHR or LGW then, and especially you say STN is chaos!

The problem with Stansted is that although most people check in online, some people still have bagage, which requires a drop off and to cut costs the minimal number of desks are open. The same can be said for immigration as at Stansted I have never had to wait for less than 45 minutes to get through...

South Terminal at Gatwick can be a challenge but North Terminal is okay and if you have the IRIS scanner then it is easy to get through quickly. The last time I was at Stansted the IRIS thing wasn't installed.

Heathrow is MUCH better than it was... BAA have opened more security lanes in all terminals and passport control moves a lot faster than many other airports I have been to in the UK. Also the speed at which baggage arrives on the belt at Heathrow is generally very fast now comparitively. Whenever I have flown into Terminal 5, my suitcase is waiting for me when I get down the escalator and that is with me using the IRIS passport barrier with no queue.



Next Flights: LHR-OSL (319-BA), OSL-LHR (319-BA), LHR-IAH (744-BA), MSY-LGA (319-DL), JFK-LHR (744-BA)
User currently offlineLuftyMatt From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2009, 428 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (3 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 7947 times:

A good idea, I think LGW will serve their needs far better than STN. Good news for LGW as well, who have been suffering since open skies and loosing a lot of traffic to LHR. I hope it works out for them. It could be that passengers sick of flying out of LHR with all it's congestion and stress decide to fly Air Asia X instead of other operators out of LHR.

Quoting AirNZ (Reply 19):
Except the actual underlying reasons are important.......it wasn't because it was London I'm afraid.


Yeah but London certainly didn't save them either.



chase the sun
User currently offlineRamblinMan From United States of America, joined Oct 2010, 1138 posts, RR: 1
Reply 23, posted (3 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 7789 times:

Quoting TeamInTheSky (Reply 14):
The discount route is great to Spain....KUL is a different animal.

Yeah except you can get lie-flat seats on D7 for waaaaaaaay less than J-class on MH.


User currently offlinekdhurst380 From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2010, 179 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (3 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 7580 times:

Quoting AirNZ (Reply 19):
Hate to ask, but why do you feel LCC/Charter's lead to mass queues at check-in.....considering most pax do it online? Am curious how you view LHR or LGW then, and especially you say STN is chaos!

I used Stansted around 10 years ago, then used it again recently and won't be returning anytime soon. BAA have just turned it from a large expanse of pleasant, airy space, into a hell hole of improvised retail 'blocks' in every square inch of the place. Security was massively inefficient, officers shouting at people in the queue to remove various items of clothing (belts, shoes etc), not the nice place I remember at all, it's just one confused mess. Whilst LGW is still a shopping centre, it's much more practically laid out and security is generally much quicker and friendlier.

Better proposition in terms of connectivity, better in terms of service itself. LGW is a bit patchwork whilst the renovation happens, but it's a big place and the signs of improvement become more apparent each time I visit. The new owners care about the place.


25 TCASAlert : Interesting you should say that. I have used STN (and all the other London airports) many times in the last few years, and we find it is by far the n
26 sq_ek_freak : Royal Brunei. They may still fly the route but I severely doubt they make any money on it.
27 santos : Not the quickest place to get from central London, Only has connections with Train and Coach. Can't beat LHR -Heathrow Express, Heathrow Connect Trai
28 fcogafa : But millions of Ryanair passengers seem to be able to make an effort to get to Stansted so why do they not make the effort for Air Asia X? Has the lo
29 Viscount724 : And Philippine Airlines and Garuda since the discussion involves Asia.
30 heathrow : I know how you feel. LGW makes life so much more difficult for me when going home. LHR isn't brilliant, but closer than LGW. It's sad that LTN and ST
31 Post contains images signol : Are you talking about STN here? As there are Stansted Express trains, local trains to Stratford, long distance trains to Cambridge and the north. Nat
32 LX138 : Because Ryanair is a well known brand and people can't resist paying £29.99 for a flight. Air Asia X is barely known and the flights are a lot more
33 TeamInTheSky : GA will be back to London, and I wouldn't be surprised at all if they went into LGW
34 santos : Only to/from central London as mentioned on my reply!
35 fiscal : Unlike some posters, I have found STN to be a very pleasant experience, but then again, D7 gets in late evening, and leaves late night, so all the cro
36 Post contains images signol : How about drop London and start Brussels, and offer code-share tickets on Eurostar? signol
37 Post contains images fiscal : What a great idea
38 Post contains images TCASAlert : As others have said, there are very good rail links to STN from London. Also, a catchment area for an airport does not just go south of the airport.
39 borism : What a lot of people seem to be forgetting is that STN unlike LGW doesn't have transit area so non-EU citizens couldn't connect without a UK visa. Tha
40 planesarecool : So one of the most densely populated and affluent parts of the UK then...
41 AirbusA6 : Who are AirAsia X targetting, is it British/European people looking for a cheapish flight to Malaysia, British people trying to connect via KL LCC to
42 TCASAlert : A dense population doesn't necessarily mean more passengers. By your theory, MNL would be the world's busiest airport, with DEL, BOM, CAI and ATH all
43 SKAirbus : Well there are many non-EU countries like the US etc where citizens do not need a visa. However, it will take them longer to clear passport control t
44 CHRISBA777ER : Give it three years and they'll start MAN as well. I'll fall off my chair in amazement if they dont end up using something bigger - 77W or A388 in due
45 LAX888 : Actually AirAsia now offers connecting flights to certain destination and even to New Zealand and Australia I believe. So now they are becoming more
46 AirNZ : Incorrect......they do need a visa, including US citizens. Sorry, but I'm curious how on earth you reach that bizarre conclusion??? Can you enlighten
47 planesarecool : I don't think you can compare London and the South East, a densely populated, affluent area in the proximity of and including a global business and t
48 Post contains images gkirk : I was wondering how long it would take for someone to mention the A380
49 skipness1E : Which is an awful lot more people than are closer to STN which is why the market behaves as it does! This is what Don Burr and People Express thought
50 AirNZ : Why would Easyjet or Air Asia X not have a base in an 'affluent' area? Sorry, but could you enlighten me as to where some of these notions are coming
51 Post contains images gkirk : The airlines are too common for snobs richer people to travel on?
52 CHRISBA777ER : Do you mind if i interject? NZ is absolutely right. LGW has a wide catchment area which includes England's most affluent areas. I'll give you an exam
53 TCASAlert : You speak to anyone from north of London and the answer will be the same - LGW is a nightmare to get to. Mention Stansted, and it's "Oh, that's near
54 planesarecool : But hang on, you said LGW's catchment area is only 'London and the South East', so why would passengers in Bournemouth have anything to do with Gatwi
55 SKAirbus : Considering that you were so outraged at the supposedly outlandish statements others were making, you are actually wrong on this. I have consulted th
56 Babybus : So do I. And I agree LGW is the better option to operate from with fast connections to London and with impressive domestic and international connecti
57 cornish : Despite higher charges, LGW is easyJet's highest yielding base anywhere in its entire network - far more than STN or LTN for example. There are good r
58 AirNZ : What on earth are you talking about? However, let me clarify your comment..........what is commonly stated on here in regard to visa's are pre-approv
59 gilesdavies : Doesn't surprise me in the slightest... The new owners of LGW seem to be coming out with all guns blazing, in-order to gain new business. With the dro
60 Post contains links and images SKAirbus : I just found this article released today on Travel Weekly about why Air Asia X are relocating to LGW: http://www.travelweekly.co.uk/Articl...ed-spurre
61 cornish : Exactly - see my earlier post about LGW being easyJet's highest yielding base anywhere in Europe.....
62 LX138 : I doubt it, and people on here are obsessed with alliances! Life does exist outside them! And yes I doubt they are pursuing the connection market her
63 skipness1E : What's your source f this claim? Seems like the sort of commercially confidential information one shouldn't be making public on t'internet. Might be
64 cornish : Its pretty common knowledge within the UK aviation industry. I'm sure I've seen it referred to by them in public reports/conferences before now as we
65 fiscal : It is all a bit weird. The APD, although horrendously expensive, and for premium passengers inequitable, it is the same for both airports. I think it
66 lightsaber : The link noted a 10% decrease in connecting passengers at STN. Has the APD made the *connecting* flight to AirAsia X less viable and thus killed off
67 fiscal : There is no connecting flights with Air Asia X departing from the UK (they are point to point - apart from some 'fly thru" routes like Perth, Melbour
68 AirbusA6 : It is a lot quicker to get to central London as a tourist from LGW than STN, as from LGW you have a choice of a high frequency trains to Victoria (Exp
69 fiscal : Do you mean that there will be a service through to St Pancras, or that there is, but it is constantly having problems? Being able to get from GTW to
70 Post contains images AirNZ : To a point, but not really definitive however. All passengers (whether tourist or otherwise) are not always staying in central London by any means. y
71 MaverickM11 : Does anyone have any insight as to how D7 is doing on their longhaul flights? Most of D7's flights are still within a 320 range and the actual longhau
72 skipness1E : Umm OK thanks, can someone please provide a link? airliners.net common knowledge has MAN-JFK as being one of BA's best performing routes. Am keen to
73 SKAirbus : This will stop later this year when the new Blackfriars station opens. It will mean that Eurostar passengers will have a direct link from St Pancras
74 MaverickM11 : ....that they haven't flown for years?
75 AirNZ : You'll unfortunately find though that very often such 'knowledge' is far from reality though, lol!! You certainly won't see it on any MAN-JFK route t
76 LondonCity : The real competition comes from the likes of EK, EY, QR and KL. Whereas D7 can only offer departures from London, the others operate out of UK region
77 AirNZ : Actually it has......Laker Airways were so successful others were found guilty of conspiracy to put the out of business. Remember, it is fair to say
78 fiscal : Just a thought, but the ORY flights are sooooo much cheaper than the UK flight, that a lot of people are probably thinking why not start our journey
79 CPDC10-30 : AirAsia X is really puzzling me lately. I have flown six sectors on the so far, STN-KUL-STN twice and KUL-MEL-KUL. I love their service and the concep
80 LondonCity : One drawback with arriving in ORY but departing STN is that a passenger is then liable for the UK's APD. Canny visitors from overseas, fly into STN a
81 Post contains links 9MMAR : I think you might be confused between D7 and AK here. D7 does not operate any A320. D7 is an affiliate of AK and the latter only owns 16% of the form
82 fiscal : By how much now! I just read a parliamentary debate on the APD, on the issue regarding the Caribbean being included in a more remote geographical ban
83 Viscount724 : That's not my recollection. I can't recall anyone being found guilty of conspiracy in the various Laker lawsuits. I believe they were settled out of
84 Post contains links fiscal : This was just posted on the StarBiz site... http://biz.thestar.com.my/news/story...p?file=/2011/7/13/business/9090565 "StarBiz yesterday already repor
85 AirNZ : If you wish to play with words be my guest.......they were guilty of conspiracy and settled out of court to stop the whole truth becoming public. Are
86 Post contains links VV701 : Two hours further DRIVE? Really? From where? Cambridge and Norwich? Stansted itself? Perhaps. But consider a major conurbation to the north of London
87 MaverickM11 : No, I'm not. The majority of D7 departures are within a 320 range, so I'm curious how the actual longhaul flying is doing, ie things longer than 6+/-
88 LondonCity : Thanks for the explanation. There was talk that D7 might operate A330-200 craft ex-KUL to Europe from 2012. But does this plane have the range to fly
89 signol : Um, yes. I live in Norwich, and Norfolk alone is over 1/4 million people. Add to that Suffolk, Cambs, and points north on the A1 / A1(M) and that is
90 SKAirbus : Air Asia X has given their reasons for choosing Gatwick over Stansted and there must be a reason why airlines (apart from FR) prefer Gatwick over Sta
91 Post contains images CPDC10-30 : Well, I do wish them luck, but it is unfortunate as Stansted is a nicer airport. I felt really special walking through a completely deserted STN for
92 fiscal : Some one else posted the comment about not being competitive, and I did not believe them, until I checked some EK fares in April 2012, before the Oly
93 richcandy : Hi Can I just ask how does APD kill their business model? Its charged on the ticket regardless of the carrier flown, so everyone has to pay it. If Air
94 CPDC10-30 : Yes, it does. I travel much less to Europe and Asia now because of it.
95 Post contains links LondonCity : This comparison relates to prices ex-London. When you realise that carriers like EK, EY, QR and KL offer departures from UK regional airports to KUL
96 richcandy : OK but do AirAsia X get many connecting passengers in the UK? I mean you need to buy a another ticket to cover the domestic flight. Its not part of th
97 LondonCity : Fair point. I would believe D7 also appeals to Malaysian and Singaporean nationals who reside in the UK and they are not necessarily located in the L
98 Post contains links david_itl : And causes airlines to reconsider UK flights "Air Asia X's chief executive Azran Osman-Rani said: "AirAsia X is keen to launch into a second European
99 MaverickM11 : A fare hike as low as a few dollars can make or break a route, never mind a steep APD or visa fee Plus the APD is range based, and although I can't r
100 fiscal : There is a problem here I think that the APD is destination based, not connection based, so if the final destination on the ticket is still KUL, the
101 MaverickM11 : True, plus depending on how you buy your D7 tickets, ie separately which D7 probably favors anyway or as a connection, that may affect the calculatio
102 Post contains links LondonCity : Yes it is based on the final destination. eg if you fly LGW-DXB-KUL with EK (with a transit in DXB) then you pay APD at the rate for KUL. But if you
103 kdhurst380 : Well you've just said it yourself, it was deserted. I've been through during the day and its a dive. Nice big pretty building, but moving around airs
104 MAS777 : no it doesnt - it offers a Premium Economy cabin. anyway - for what its worth D7 had always initially intended to operate from LGW before STN flights
105 Post contains links LondonCity : You are correct. I was really referring to the type of seat rather than the overall product. Interestingly, D7's CEO himself refers to his airline's
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