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Indian Aviation Thread: Part 94  
User currently offlineLAXDESI From United States of America, joined May 2005, 5086 posts, RR: 47
Posted (3 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 23688 times:

AI 787 demo flight is scheduled for next week. I have also read elsewhere that AI and Boeing have still not agreed to 787 delay compensation, and that may hold up delivery.

I wonder if the 250 seat configuration is just for the demo aircraft, and not the one chosen by AI.

http://mangalorean.com/news.php?newstype=local&newsid=249634
Quote:
"Air India will get its first demo-trial next week. We will fly in the 787 from Japan to New Delhi on July 13," Dinesh Keskar, president, Boeing India told IANS.

According to Keskar, the 250-seat aircraft will be stationed at the Indira Gandhi International (IGI) airport in Delhi for two days. It will fly to Mumbai July 15 where it will be kept for a day.

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User currently offlineLAXDESI From United States of America, joined May 2005, 5086 posts, RR: 47
Reply 1, posted (3 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 23695 times:

Reposting from the previous thread:

Ojas wrote:
CX/KA has shown "keen interest" in starting HKG - CCU flights. There would be a few rounds of discussion in the coming months before things are finalised.

Nimish wrote:
I hope the Trinamool Congress forces the center to make the change to the bilateral, because the current MoCA (and he's rumored to resign today) seems totally uninterested in the Indian passenger, but interested only in saving AI and restoring it to it's "former glory".

AirIndia wrote:
As per this article, Gurudas Kamat (MP from mumbai) is slated to get MoCA... However it does not talk about V.Ravi

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/i...w-ministry/articleshow/9191999.cms


User currently offlineNimish From India, joined Feb 2005, 3284 posts, RR: 10
Reply 2, posted (3 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 23567 times:

From: http://www.thehindu.com/news/national/article2220917.ece

Quote:
Overseas Indian Affairs Minister Vayalar Ravi retains additional charge of Civil Aviation.

Seems like there's no change in the MoCA for now.



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User currently offlineNimish From India, joined Feb 2005, 3284 posts, RR: 10
Reply 3, posted (3 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 23533 times:

From: http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/...ns/articleshow/9193081.cms?curpg=2

SpiceJet announces delay in it's Q400 operations - by at least a month - on account of delays in finalizing the financing and govt. approvals.



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User currently offlineJoeCanuck From Canada, joined Dec 2005, 5478 posts, RR: 31
Reply 4, posted (3 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 23399 times:

Quoting Nimish (Reply 3):

That's too bad...the Q400 seems to me to be a super aircraft for Indian domestic operations; lots of small airports and a huge land area. I suspect that SpiceJet will end up a large operator of the type. It might then catch on with others as well.



What the...?
User currently offlineLAXDESI From United States of America, joined May 2005, 5086 posts, RR: 47
Reply 5, posted (3 years 5 months 1 week 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 23231 times:

Finally some info. on AI 788 seat configuration. Just 18 J seats is bit of a surprise. 30 J seats is typical for 2 class layout. 9W has 30 J and 196 Y seats in A332s.

http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/...y-year-end/articleshow/9214582.cms
Quote:
According to Baliga, the Air India's 787 will be equipped with best in-class seats for its 256 passengers.

While Contour Aerospace Limited will equip the 18 business class seats, Weber would provide the remaining 238 seats for the executive class section.


User currently offlineLAXDESI From United States of America, joined May 2005, 5086 posts, RR: 47
Reply 6, posted (3 years 5 months 1 week 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 23096 times:

Aviation ministry seeks $9 billion bailout from GOI. I doubt this will ever happen.

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/b...-cr-for-AI/articleshow/9229748.cms
Quote:
It might turn out to be the mother of all bailouts with the civil aviation ministry set to pitch for a Rs 42,000 crore succour for Air India.

The ministry, which is being blamed for turning the Maharaja sick due to a merger of Indian Airlines and Air India, is going to tell the group of ministers next week that the national carrier will need Rs 42,000 crore over the next eight to nine years and over 130 more planes on lease. And, in suggesting the requirements, the ministry seems to have simply lifted the recommendations of SBI Caps without putting much thought to the overall implications.


User currently offlinekaran69 From India, joined Oct 2004, 2893 posts, RR: 18
Reply 7, posted (3 years 5 months 1 week 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 23080 times:

Quoting LAXDESI (Reply 5):
Finally some info. on AI 788 seat configuration. Just 18 J seats is bit of a surprise. 30 J seats is typical for 2 class layout. 9W has 30 J and 196 Y seats in A332s.

As per the contour website it looks likely to be the aura seats although I wish the vantage seats come instead since these aircrafts won't have first class

http://www.contour.aero/seating.htm


User currently offlineJoeCanuck From Canada, joined Dec 2005, 5478 posts, RR: 31
Reply 8, posted (3 years 5 months 1 week 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 23042 times:

Quoting LAXDESI (Reply 6):

Wow...that's a lot of cash. Too bad, really...it seems from my far away perspective that the Indian aviation industry might do well overall with AI being cut loose to sink or swim.



What the...?
User currently offlineLAXDESI From United States of America, joined May 2005, 5086 posts, RR: 47
Reply 9, posted (3 years 5 months 1 week 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 22845 times:

Quoting JoeCanuck (Reply 8):
it seems from my far away perspective that the Indian aviation industry might do well overall with AI being cut loose to sink or swim.

Agree, but it is unlikely to happen anytime soon. The possibility of privatisation may exist after the next federal election.

Btw, the wage bill for AI is close to $800 million per year. It may be cheaper to offer generous severance pay to a large chunk of the employees and privatise AI.


User currently offlinemk777 From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 1195 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (3 years 5 months 1 week 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 22830 times:

Hi guys,

Does anyone have a diagram of DEL??? You know taxiways etc. Also, the arrival and departure configurations??

Thanks.



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User currently offlinepnd100 From Canada, joined Mar 2009, 343 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (3 years 5 months 1 week 2 days ago) and read 22777 times:

Quoting LAXDESI (Reply 1):
Ojas wrote:
CX/KA has shown "keen interest" in starting HKG - CCU flights. There would be a few rounds of discussion in the coming months before things are finalised.

I hope this is true & if started I hope it lasts. CX is a world class airline IMO


User currently offlineJoeCanuck From Canada, joined Dec 2005, 5478 posts, RR: 31
Reply 12, posted (3 years 5 months 1 week 2 days ago) and read 22767 times:

Quoting LAXDESI (Reply 9):
Btw, the wage bill for AI is close to $800 million per year. It may be cheaper to offer generous severance pay to a large chunk of the employees and privatise AI.

You're right...they could save a ton of cash just by selling the planes and paying all salaries for a year...and maybe show a profit as well.


It's too bad, really. I see the Indian airline industry as a whole, as having such huge potential, nationally and internationally. It would be nice to see it grow to its potential. India could very rapidly challenge the middle east airlines, considering how much of their market share is from Indian passengers.

It sucks to see it being held back.



What the...?
User currently offlineWestWing From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 2135 posts, RR: 7
Reply 13, posted (3 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 22707 times:

Hindustan Times: Senior government officials and members of Star Alliance will hold talks on July 18 on the progress of Air India’s induction into the international airline association.

So, what are the odds of *A finally accepting AI into the alliance? July 31 was supposed to be the drop-dead date.



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User currently offlineblrBird From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 579 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (3 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 22680 times:

When did 9W & MH start code sharing? I noticed 9W flight number appear on MH KUL-BLR flight.What other market do they code share?

thanks.



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User currently offlineojas From India, joined Mar 2008, 2988 posts, RR: 25
Reply 15, posted (3 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 22671 times:

Quoting blrBird (Reply 14):
When did 9W & MH start code sharing?

For almost 2 years IIRC.

Quoting blrBird (Reply 14):
flight.What other market do they code share?

All India - KUL flights operated by MH (except MH 172/173 which is a 5 weekly day time KUL - DEL flight). MH too code shares on 9W's MAA - KUL flight.



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User currently offlineojas From India, joined Mar 2008, 2988 posts, RR: 25
Reply 16, posted (3 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 22651 times:

From W11, SQ will increase BOM - SIN from 14 weekly to 17 weekly and AMD - SIN from 2pw to 3pw.

At the moment SQ operates to India as follows:

BOM => 14 weekly B777s
DEL => 14 weekly B777s
MAA => 7 weekly B777s
BLR => 7 weekly B777s
CCU => 3 weekly A333s
AMD => 2 weekly A333s

Total: 47 weekly flights.

Silk Air too will increase it's flights from 5 weekly to daily on the SIN - BLR sector.

http://www.hindustantimes.com/Singap...Mumbai-Report/Article1-721766.aspx

[Edited 2011-07-15 22:38:37]


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User currently offlineWestWing From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 2135 posts, RR: 7
Reply 17, posted (3 years 5 months 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 22332 times:

There are news reports that DGCA has ordered airlines to "immediately" stop charging premium add-on fares for preferred seats (e.g. exit row seating). Why does the DGCA have to get involved in this - as long as the add-on fees for premium seating are clearly disclosed and it is optional to the customer to make a seat selection?


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User currently offlineCricket From India, joined Aug 2005, 2972 posts, RR: 7
Reply 18, posted (3 years 5 months 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 22327 times:

Quoting LAXDESI (Reply 5):
Finally some info. on AI 788 seat configuration. Just 18 J seats is bit of a surprise

Given that most people on J in AI are upgrades, this leaves fewer seats that can be given as freebies... I'm sure this has actually been though out, but given that this is AI, you never know.

Just a question, I recently flew DEL-NRT on JL and noticed that my flight actually flew down south-east towards Dhaka, cross over into Myanmar and only at Mandalay did it make a turn to the left flying over Shanghai and then to Japan. I was wondering if airspace over the Himalayas are still restricted for aircraft because of the terrain? And whether this is for all aircraft or particular to two-engine planes as JAL operates a 772ER on the sector.



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User currently offlineAirIndia From United Arab Emirates, joined Jan 2001, 1655 posts, RR: 1
Reply 19, posted (3 years 5 months 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 22074 times:

Not a good summer for VJM - http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/b...-in-summer/articleshow/9290233.cms

User currently offlineaviationbuff From India, joined Mar 2008, 1428 posts, RR: 3
Reply 20, posted (3 years 5 months 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 21987 times:

Quoting LAXDESI (Reply 6):

Aviation ministry seeks $9 billion bailout from GOI.
Air India aims to receive seven 787s by end March 2012

http://www.flightglobal.com/articles...-seven-787s-by-end-march-2012.html

Quote:
Air India will take delivery of its first Boeing 787 in October, a company source has indicated, with a further three to follow before the end of the year.

The carrier will receive a total of seven by the end of March 2012, the source said. India's flag carrier has 27 of the type on order.

Ooooops ... do they have money to take the delivery.


User currently offlineNimish From India, joined Feb 2005, 3284 posts, RR: 10
Reply 21, posted (3 years 5 months 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 21974 times:

Quoting aviationbuff (Reply 20):
Ooooops ... do they have money to take the delivery.

With the sovereign guarantee on any loan - of course they can arrange for funds... The challenge will be when the guarantee dries up (if it ever will dry up)



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User currently offlineHAWK21M From India, joined Jan 2001, 31702 posts, RR: 56
Reply 22, posted (3 years 5 months 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 21954 times:

Anyone aware of fresh dates on the B787 BOM Visit......


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User currently offlineCricket From India, joined Aug 2005, 2972 posts, RR: 7
Reply 23, posted (3 years 5 months 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 21853 times:

Quoting HAWK21M (Reply 22):
Anyone aware of fresh dates on the B787 BOM Visit......

I guess the first time BOM will see a 787 will be VT-ANA when it lands there on the delivery flight



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User currently offlineAirIndia From United Arab Emirates, joined Jan 2001, 1655 posts, RR: 1
Reply 24, posted (3 years 5 months 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 21755 times:

Quoting Cricket (Reply 23):
Quoting HAWK21M (Reply 22):
Anyone aware of fresh dates on the B787 BOM Visit......

I guess the first time BOM will see a 787 will be VT-ANA

I am sorry if i missed it, but why did the 787 skip BOM? Wasnt it supposed to be in BOM on Jul 16?


25 Cricket : Casualty of the blasts, pity though it was going to be parked at the AI hangers, so everyone who had 'A' seats would have got a great view while taki
26 ojas : According to the GDS, Effective W11, 9W will start daily flights between TRV and SHJ 9W 570 TRV - SHJ 1015 1240 9W 569 SHJ - TRV 1340 1900 Aircraft: B
27 Cricket : Has Kingfisher stopped paying their catering companies now or have catering companies stopped supplies? Flew DEL-BOM return today - vegetarian sandwic
28 gr8circle : No airline pays cahs on delivery.....planes are financed by banks.....
29 HAWK21M : IT is facing problems with credit.....Recently IOC stopped refuelling of all IT Aircraft countrywide until a part payment was made.Signs of an Airlin
30 Post contains links LAXDESI : Air India aims to receive seven 787s by end March 2012. http://www.flightglobal.com/articles...-seven-787s-by-end-march-2012.html Quote: Air India wil
31 Post contains links Cricket : Bizarre and fascinating story, apparently a passenger died of a heart attack on an Indigo flight between AMD and DEL. Not surprising in itself, but th
32 Post contains links Cricket : VT-AND starts its engines for the first time http://bit.ly/mZ6VJa
33 Post contains links Cricket : Well, AI integration into Star Alliance has been put on hold http://bit.ly/p0xMlX More on this thread AI And Star Alliance Deadline (by DTWLAX Jul 24
34 Post contains links HAWK21M : 787 Declares Emergency Over Flight Control Issues (by jetblueguy22 Jul 31 2011 in Civil Aviation) Looks like its on the ground now.
35 Post contains links Cricket : Check out some of these crazy schedules from 1971 - this is a BOAC timetable http://www.timetableimages.com/ttimages/ba/ba71/ba71-34.jpg AI 129 BOM-DE
36 HAWK21M : Anyone Aware of the status on quikjet cargo airlines.....
37 Post contains images gr8circle : I remember flying BOM-KWI-GVA-PAR-LHR in May 1972....was quite small then..... The return flight was LHR-PAR-FRA-BEY-DEL-BOM and was on AI 742 VT-EBD
38 Post contains links AI : http://www.ndtv.com/article/india/oi...resume-after-hectic-parleys-125782 The bad news continues for AI. Copy & paste of the above article : New D
39 Post contains links AI : http://www.ndtv.com/article/india/ne...o-be-from-aviation-ministry-126038 The saga continues. After all the money spent on the merger between AI &
40 comorin : Big mishtake. Better to have brought in an star outsider.
41 HAWK21M : The Blasts a few days earlier. Maybe the next time will be soon for the visit of the B787.
42 Post contains images gr8circle : Won't AI be getting their 787 soon? Barring any further economic woes of course...... Then BOM spotters will get to see it for sure......
43 HAWK21M : End of the year I heard.......But then 4 months earlier would have been great for the B787 in Mumbai.....as Delhi was lucky to host it.
44 Post contains links golfradio : Hawk, I know you posted that picture of ATR-72F with Quikjet markings from June of this year, but I am still skeptical of this outfit. In 2008 they h
45 ojas : Effective 10th October 6E 51 BOM - SIN 0840 1650 daily 6E 52 SIN - BOM 1650 1745 (a/c swap with DEL - SIN flight) 6E 81 BOM - MCT 2125 2245 Mo, We, Th
46 777way : Is this the first time they've announced Muscat service, originally it was just DXB, BKK and SIN.
47 ojas : The arrival time is 1945hrs and not 1745 hrs, it was a typo.
48 Post contains images gr8circle : Don't worry....very soon you'll be seeing them everyday..... I have an incredible personal situation with the A-380....I live in Toronto, where EK op
49 HAWK21M : From the word going around they were to start up in July 2011.............with ATR72s & upgrade to B752s in a year. Sure will.
50 777way : Ariana have reduced frequency for KBL-DEL to twice weekly from previous three, once weekly 727 via Kandahar and once weekly A310 nonstop.
51 Cricket : Keep that 727 coming, though I don't know for how long, with residents under the paths of 28/29 cribbing about noise
52 HAWK21M : The Restrictions will be in place soon between 2200-0600hrs Daily.
53 golfradio : Will this also impact International Departures?
54 tharanga : a bit off the topic, but does anybody here know what aircraft TG used for BKK-CCU-BKK in the early-mid 90s?
55 Post contains images comorin : Wishing all Indian a.netters a happy Independence Day - August 15th.
56 VIDP : Airbus A300.
57 Boeing747_600 : Jeez! Is that A310 one of the hand-me-downs from AI? It's got to be on its last legs!
58 777way : ^ Its ex-Turkish airlines along with another, while a third is operated for them by Turkey's Saga Airlines. The ex-AI three A300s are long gone.
59 Boeing747_600 : Ah! Thanks.
60 Post contains links and images AirIndia : Didn't one skidded off runway at IST and had to be written off? This one: View Large View MediumPhoto © Fatih Caliskan
61 ammunition : is MAN on the pipeline for any indian airline?
62 HAWK21M : Anything above required db ratings.....mostly affect Stage 1 & stage 2 Noise levels. You too.
63 Post contains links 777way : Jet 77W in Istanbul http://www.airporthaber.com/thy-nin-...aradeniz-ucagi-gidiyor-34373h.html Yes.
64 ojas : IndiGo is now selling the following int'l to domestic and v.v connections: 1) Dubai * AMD, BBI, GOI, JAI, IXJ, LKO, PAT, SXR 2) Muscat * BLR, GOI, COK
65 Post contains links and images golfradio : Spicejet took delivery of their first two Q400 here in Toronto yesterday. Supposedly the Q400s are going to be based in HYD and will be used to connec
66 comorin : How do the Q400s get ferried to HYD? Given their range, what would be their routing? Thanks
67 Post contains links golfradio : Spicejet is starting the Q400 operations from Sep 21. Here is the link to the schedule http://spicejet.com/newspage.asp?strNews=Q400_Operations The ty
68 comorin : Thank you! It's something I've wondered about for sometime. It'll be fun to plug it into great circle mapper.
69 Post contains links Nimish : The actual route being taken is on AI.net - http://airlinersindia.s4.bizhat.com/....php?t=11557&mforum=airlinersindia I've already done the job o
70 Post contains links and images Cricket : What was this View Large View MediumPhoto © Stelios Ioannou Doing in Lacarna, Cyprus - flying in or going back?
71 hohd : AI is the best airline for a possible MAN flight from DEL. 9W has the code share from Brussels so would not be interested. Unfortunately, most of MAN
72 Post contains images AI : True. 9W is always very expensive though. Have checked MAN-BRU-BOM fares a few times & it has been significantly more expensive. Infact theie web
73 HAWK21M : Probably going back since it was in the country since Jan 2008.
74 Cricket : I wonder if CD are getting new aircraft to replace the RJ's
75 sankaps : I flew the route quite a lot in the 1990s... I think the aircraft varied over time... A300s, DC10s, and MD11s. I have flown all three on TG from CCU.
76 Post contains links LAXDESI : IndiGo launches its first international flight. http://www.flightglobal.com/articles...ts-first-international-flight.html Quote: Indian low-cost carri
77 Cricket : Three from DEL this month and three from BOM next month, but I hope like SG's international operations they don't stall after that.
78 LIPZ : Anything new about the long-rumored 9W's plan to expand into Europe? AMS, CDG, FCO, FRA.........nothing is confirmed yet so far.
79 Post contains links HAWK21M : Turkish Planes Skids, Got Stuck In Mud At BOM (by aarbee Sep 1 2011 in Civil Aviation)
80 Cricket : Am genuinely surprised more Indian airports do not have aircraft lifting equipment - granted it could be expensive but the economic cost of a over-run
81 LIPZ : Does anyone know which is currently the main hub of Jet Airways? DEL or BOM? Thanks
82 VIDP : Offcourse BOM. 9W has always been Mumbai Centric.
83 HAWK21M : Considering the stats of requiring retrival.....Its adequate to have a single custodian per region provided the unit can be moved around quickly. Mum
84 Cricket : BD is going to restart services to India with a thrice weekly LHR-ALA-ATQ flight Schedule: Till 30 Oct BD991 LHR 1110 - ALA - 0305+1 ATQ 146 332 BD992
85 HAWK21M : I wonder when a new Cargo Airline start up will emerge in the country.....Theres so much loads to carry.
86 Post contains links AirIndia : Thread has been lying dormant. posting this piece of news. Nothing technical but its a new about Katrina Kaif's trip from LHR to BOM. Certainly not go
87 777way : Why did AI cargo fail at this? they could have converted the 743 or 744s to freighters for the purpose maybe even as a different brand and not AI car
88 Post contains images HAWK21M : Ever heard of Poor mgmt Any Cargo Airline with a strong ground network presence will succeed.The problem is initially they need to set up that networ
89 Cricket : Katrina was a brand ambassador for Etihad, so I'm pretty sure her initial options were on EY. But getting from London to India isn't THAT difficult u
90 Post contains links and images AirIndia : Did they not have a tie up with Gati? Gati has the country fairly well copevered, atleast it seems to be. View Large View MediumPhoto © Vivek Manvi
91 HAWK21M : The Loads were only P&T,not enough to sustain.
92 victortango : What's happening with Quikjet? Any update?
93 Post contains links and images HAWK21M : View Large View MediumPhoto © Petar Meznarek Was to start in July 2011.....A few Pics of their ATRs was on the net.....But thereafter nothing........
94 Post contains links LAXDESI : Indigo's ambitious plans for Singapore. http://www1.economictimes.indiatimes...singapore/articleshow/10018113.cms Quote: As of now, the Indian side do
95 HAWK21M : With Spicejet,GoAir & Indigo Improving their Business.Thats great news. 9W on way to recovery Now its upto AI & IT to improve. As for Cargo BZ
96 AI : IT may. But AI I think, is beyond help because there is no will on anyones part to make it work.
97 DFWKING : I was just taking a look at IT's flight schedules to HKG and it looks like the A332's sit idle in HKG for almost 9 hrs each day. IMO, it doesn't seems
98 AirIndia : That explains the idle time. They are probably aligned to CX's departure and arrival banks. Otherwise they could have done that with just the one A33
99 HAWK21M : IT seems to be in a far worse situation Financially than AI......
100 JoeCanuck : IT doesn't have the benefit of the bottomless pockets of the GOI.
101 Post contains images fortunerunnner : I have booked a flight for PNQ-DEL-PNQ in December 2011 with IT however, with this talk about it being bankrupt is really worrying.
102 Post contains images HAWK21M : VJM raises the price of beer & cash will flow in again
103 Post contains links JoeCanuck : India is threatening to withdraw landing rights for Swiss and Austrian. http://www.aviationweek.com/aw/gener...ss%20Traffic%20Rights&channel=comm
104 JOYA380B747 : They are planning a DEL-AMS this winter, probably after more 77Ws return this winter....
105 AirIndia : All these years they turned a blind eye to the SOEC clause of the bi-lateral. Typical red-tape bullshit.
106 Nimish : Exactly - and then what happens to AF/ KL - which one gets threatened?
107 golfradio : They are only gunning for *A. They must be wooing SkyTeam right about now.
108 ojas : 9W should be announcing MNL and AMS soon according to sources. There is a high density A330 which would be delivered to 9W.
109 LIPZ : Out of DEL or BOM?
110 JOYA380B747 : See post 104 As for MNL it would more likely be from DEL too, but 9W has usually been BOM-centric.
111 Post contains links LAXDESI : Indian aviation recorded a growth of nearly 16% in passenger traffic for the first four months of the current fiscal year(April-July 2011) over the sa
112 Cricket : High Density = 9 abreast in Eco? See what happens with a new terminal and runways, BOM needs a new runway to compete...
113 AirIndia : Could be 2-class
114 HAWK21M : Too bad Mumbai airport cant expand horizontally & the New airport project does not gather interest......
115 VIDP : Arent 9W,s all A330-200,s without First class?
116 comorin : Please note that BLR is very close to MAA and is growing faster. LAXDESI, do you have any airport capacity #s so that one can calculate a rough yards
117 Post contains links AirIndia : http://www.jetairways.com/EN/AE/AboutUs/FleetInformation.aspx they have2 seat maps. both 2-class. i stand corrected. thanks.[Edited 2011-09-28 07:13:5
118 Post contains links aviationbuff : Kingfisher to exit budget airline business http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-15097537 All the hard work done by Air Deccan, which made possible for m
119 LAXDESI : Unfortunately I don't. IIRC, DEL will a capacity of 60 million, when fully built. It will be nice if TATA or one of the Reliance group were to buy IT
120 HAWK21M : Its not only about getting every citizen to fly but more of Business survival.
121 WestWing : Perhaps the era of the budget carrier in India is not quite dead yet. Indigo and SpiceJet appear to be holding up quite well with good survival prosp
122 HAWK21M : Looks like VJM has started taking steps to stop the mounting losses of IT......Good move.
123 Post contains links and images JOYA380B747 : Reports indicate lesser load factor and lesser yield in KF Red than KF class. So it is obviously a better decision to scrap the no-frills status.....
124 HAWK21M : Don't Forget GoAir is expanding its fleet too.
125 VIDP : An important source of information There has been some kind of issue with the C Check on 1 of the A332 because of which the aircraft is grounded in B
126 HAWK21M : The V2500 powerplant on ITs A320s are an issue too in terms of high end life turbine cracks & the manufacturer are not getting the powerplants ove
127 HAWK21M : Any news on Quikjet cargo & their plans......what about TATAs new venture.
128 HAWK21M : Chennai Runway closed due IT ATR Nose wheel deflation on landing.
129 golfradio : What is the plan for the single class ex-Deccan ATRs? Is IT going to convert them to two class or are they going out?
130 VIDP : Nothing happens to the equipment or hardware. Its just that the service gets upgraded ie i/o of selling snacks on board they would serve a meal.
131 golfradio : Interesting. So, no KF first on these? Also the ex-Deccan ATRs and A320s do not have any IFE, right? The product is going to be inconsistent then.
132 comorin : Times of India calls it "Close Brush with Death".
133 WestWing : Tsk. Tsk. That's a 50% discount on the actual ToI headline. It says "Chennai plane has 2 brushes with death".
134 Post contains images comorin : I didn't think anyone would believe me if I posted the actual headline!
135 Post contains images HAWK21M : Aircraft Interiors are not altered just the service is.... Glad theres no reference to the famous term "Emergency Brake"
136 Post contains links LAXDESI : Air India to get preference in overseas flying rights. Sad if it comes to fruition. http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/...ng-rights/articleshow/10348
137 JoeCanuck : Man oh man...so when is the next election? And, what are the odds that anything will change after next election?
138 Post contains images JOYA380B747 : In a quote from the link a senior AI official says- "No other country in the world has more than one dominant carrier flying international. The gover
139 JoeCanuck : Interesting article. I don't know if polling is a big deal in India. If it is, have there been polls or surveys about the popularity of Air India and
140 ojas : From reliable sources, Air Arabia has got an informal nod to operate day flights to IXC. FWIW, Air Arabia might add upto 3 new destinations in India i
141 AirIndia : interesting. they beat FZ to it......
142 tharanga : While that's an incredibly stupid comment, it might be literally true depending on how you interpret it. If by 'dominant' you mean 'having more than
143 Post contains images gr8circle : If the person who made the comment was from the Aviation ministry, he probably understand his business very well......it's not aviation that they und
144 Post contains links LAXDESI : Turkish Airlines to expand India operations. I am hoping to see the IST-MAA flight by the end of next year so that I can fly LAX-IST-MAA with a break
145 JoeCanuck : Turkish Airlines is another company that I think has some real potential to challenge the Gulf carriers in the long term, not just with Indian traffic
146 Vimanav : Its simple: SHJ has capacity available under the bilaterals with India, DXB doesn't and consequently FZ can't expand till more seats are added thru t
147 AirIndia : I agree. EK considers QR and TK as its biggest competitors going forward. Their European network is extremely strong and a stop-over in IST might be
148 JoeCanuck : ...EXPENSIVE shopping and partying. I've never been to Istanbul, (except the airport), but I'd be willing to be real money that it can be significant
149 golfradio : I am excited too. It would be nice to have one stop options to HYD and BLR. But the 3x weekly from YYZ makes it difficult to plan. Need to see if THY
150 gr8circle : Ohh...is TK only 3x to YYZ? I thought they were daily....
151 golfradio : Yes, M-Th-S. It's a bummer.
152 JoeCanuck : Anyone know how the loads are?
153 HAWK21M : Any update on the A380 diverted to HYD?.
154 Post contains links LAXDESI : India to allow foreign airlines investment? I hope the proposed policy change goes through. Kingfisher could use some equity infusion from OW partners
155 777way : Air China have postponed DEL upgrade to A333 from 30 October to till 2 January.
156 HAWK21M : Rumoured that Ambani might be Interested in IT Afterall.
157 gr8circle : Which one? Must be Mukesh I'm sure......
158 HAWK21M : Thats correct....
159 darkroast : Question: Can anyone please confirm whether international passengers face a x-ray of their carry-on luggage at Bangalore airport (BLR)? I know they've
160 jayeshrulz : Yes, not only in BLR, but its mandatory everywhere in India. Why?
161 HAWK21M : Every piece of luggage travelling on an Aircraft is X rayed checked out here.The secondary check could be a physical one though if not Xray.
162 Post contains images Nimish : Is your question about X-Ray during arrival, or on Departure? On departure - this should be obvious - every hand carry is X-Rayed (for that elusive w
163 gr8circle : At BOM, if you choose to walk thru the Green channel in customs, they usually pass your luggage through the X-ray machine to ensure you are not carry
164 darkroast : Sorry, I should have been more specific. I meant on arrival into BLR. I've experienced both versions myself (check and no check) and wondered what th
165 ojas : According to the GDS, 9W will go double daily BOM - RUH and 3rd daily BOM - BKK from 14DEC. 9W 526 BOM - RUH 1400 1600 9W 525 RUH - BOM 1700 2315 9W 7
166 comorin : Heading to BLR next week, and wonder if there are any cheap round trip flights BLR/DXB/BLR during my stay there next month. I'm seeing flights around
167 Nimish : Check for Air Arabia to SHJ as well...
168 777way : Kam Air to use A320 to DEL from 1 January, instead of MD-80.
169 Cricket : Am really surprised that 9W is not using bigger aircraft on regional routes
170 comorin : Thanks Nimish, for this and many helpful tips in the past.
171 Post contains links blr380 : IT moves closer to becoming Oneworld member by joining FFP with AA http://www.deccanherald.com/content/...sher-inks-frequent-flier-pact.html I hope th
172 Cricket : Doubt it though, my aunt who is Platinum with AAdvantage was stranded in CCU recently, several other relatives from the ORD and DFW areas who have fl
173 HAWK21M : I wonder if VJM will sell some stake in IT or probably sell out.....Its getting quite serious.
174 Cricket : Near rioting in T3 when a DEL-HYD flight got delayed at the gate
175 HAWK21M : IT Fuel related Delays & subsequent chaos are now regular....Signs of bad times.
176 Post contains links and images 777way : Uni-Top Cargo serving DEL and MAA from Wuhan since January apparently http://uni-top.com/en/fs.asp View Large View MediumPhoto © Tone Lee
177 Post contains links Cricket : Just FYI Kingfisher to cancel 31 flights till 19 Nov http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/...19-report/articleshow/10651812.cms 27 domestic sectors and
178 HAWK21M : Rumoured that Staff are moving out before its too late.....The Exodus has began.
179 HAWK21M : Whens the Next Aero India Show scheduled....
180 AirIndia : where are they moving to? i mean who is able to fford extra staff in India right now.........
181 ojas : According to the GDS availability is all zeroed for all flights between BOM/DEL and BKK. CCU - BKK would continue to operate. The next airline that sh
182 fortunerunnner : Not clear from your post for which airline this information applies to. I doubt all flights between these low yield but still important market have b
183 Post contains links LAXDESI : Latest traffic information from AAI for the April-August 2011 period. All growth rate numbers(rounded) are relative to the previous year. http://www.a
184 RobK : Don't know if it's known already or not, but in case it hasn't been already mentioned, SpiceJet receive a brand new BBJ early next year.
185 ojas : My bad, this was for Kingfisher Airlines.
186 Cricket : The Maran's are getting a private jet? Interesting.
187 Post contains images LAXDESI : It could come in handy if they needed to leave the country in a hurry.
188 mk777 : Does anyone here know what equipment is being used for AF225/226 on Nov 18th and 19th?? Is it the regular B747 or is a 77W being substituted for these
189 Post contains images fortunerunnner : Thanks for the clarification. I was suspecting it but you just confirmed. Now I just hope IT lasts until end of December as I have tickets booked wit
190 HAWK21M : This is Interesting news......
191 Post contains links RobK : Now on USCAR for testing, interior outfitting, long range tank install etc. Will go VT- at final hand over, probably Spring or early Summer next year
192 Post contains images HAWK21M : Amazing.....A BBJ For The Marans
193 Cricket : With JJ in power and the half the party that they're nominally in hating them... not surprising. But this will be the first BBJ owned by an Indian (e
194 Post contains links LAXDESI : Market share related news that shows IT slipping to third spot after Jet and Indigo. I wouldn't be surprised if Indigo ends up with the largest domest
195 garudaa : Is VJM still confident running his airline which seems to loose steam by every single day?
196 Post contains links and images JOYA380B747 : Just read this yesterday, http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/ofarrell-b...hts-from-india-20111118-1nn93.html A excerpt from the news link: "DIRECT flights from
197 Post contains links LAXDESI : Vijay Mallya, Sahara Group refute striking any bailout deal for Kingfisher Airlines. So who is the Indian investor Mallaya keeps talking about. I wond
198 Cricket : Brains... India's Civil Aviation Ministry... hahahahahaha As a stand-alone 6E is already #1, by end-2012 as 9W takes more and more of their 737's to
199 AirIndia : could be Praful Patel......... he amassed so much during his tenure.........
200 Post contains links LAXDESI : THIS THREAD IS CLOSED. PLEASE GO TO PART 95. Indian Aviation Thread: Part 95 (by LAXDESI Nov 21 2011 in Civil Aviation)
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