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Airlines' With Access To Foreign Countries  
User currently offlinecoffeepilot From United States of America, joined May 2011, 36 posts, RR: 0
Posted (3 years 3 months 3 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 1370 times:

Is there a database showing which airlines have permission to fly into foreign countries, such as from the US to Cuba, Brazil, Honduras, etc?

Thanks

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User currently offlineAirNZ From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (3 years 3 months 3 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 1277 times:

Sorry, but what do you mean by 'permission to fly into foreign countries'? You've definitely lost me......if any airline flies an international flight anywhere in the world then it certainly has 'permission' to fly into that country!

User currently offlineSemaex From Germany, joined Nov 2009, 827 posts, RR: 2
Reply 2, posted (3 years 3 months 3 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 1240 times:

Quoting AirNZ (Reply 1):

Sorry, but what do you mean by 'permission to fly into foreign countries'? You've definitely lost me......if any airline flies an international flight anywhere in the world then it certainly has 'permission' to fly into that country!

Little bit puzzled too. My guess is that he meant the opposite; which airlines are not allowed to fly into certain countries for various political reasons.

Let's start off with airlines not allowed to fly into the DPRK  



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User currently offlinepnd100 From Canada, joined Mar 2009, 343 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (3 years 3 months 3 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 1235 times:

Quoting coffeepilot (Thread starter):
Is there a database showing which airlines have permission to fly into foreign countries, such as from the US to Cuba, Brazil, Honduras, etc?

Well since coffeepilot mentions US to Cuba, maybe the aim is to find out which countries have no bilateral agreements & do not allow the other nations airlines to land. Maybe that is what the aim is.


User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 25700 posts, RR: 22
Reply 4, posted (3 years 3 months 3 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 1176 times:

Quoting AirNZ (Reply 1):
Sorry, but what do you mean by 'permission to fly into foreign countries'? You've definitely lost me......if any airline flies an international flight anywhere in the world then it certainly has 'permission' to fly into that country!

The meaning was clear to me. He or she can correct me if I misunderstood, but I think the poster is asking whether a database exists listing all carriers designated by their governments to operate international services under the terms of the respective bilaterals, regardless whether the service is actually operated or not. Or, of course, in the case of the many Open Skies agreements, the carriers actually operating since all carriers from the countries covered by those agreements are technically permitted to operate such services.

There is no single database with that type of information covering worldwide routes.


User currently offlinecoffeepilot From United States of America, joined May 2011, 36 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (3 years 3 months 3 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 1160 times:

Thanks Viscount, that's what I meant. Wasn't sure how to word it. Thanks

User currently offlineAirNZ From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (3 years 3 months 3 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 1160 times:

Quoting pnd100 (Reply 3):
Well since coffeepilot mentions US to Cuba, maybe the aim is to find out which countries have no bilateral agreements & do not allow the other nations airlines to land. Maybe that is what the aim is.

I first thought that too, except he also mentions Brazil and Honduras. I can't see where a database would come from though no matter what the aim, but then I'm probably completely misunderstanding the 'aim'.

Quoting Semaex (Reply 2):
Let's start off with airlines not allowed to fly into the DPRK

LOL! you go first......or should be just put up an alphabetical list of airlines heheh!


User currently offlineSemaex From Germany, joined Nov 2009, 827 posts, RR: 2
Reply 7, posted (3 years 3 months 3 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 1103 times:

Quoting AirNZ (Reply 6):
LOL! you go first......or should be just put up an alphabetical list of airlines heheh!

Thinking about it, I actually wonder whether this is the case. We know that the DPRK has a very restrictive view on all other nations than itself, to say the least. But are there really written bilaterals stating that no airline is allowed into the nation? After all, a bilateral means holding negotiations, something that North Korea does not do too often.
Air Koryo isn't allowed to fly into almost every nation on this planet, apart from just a couple of shady regions. But what about the opposite? If the pax demand was there, would it be possible e.g. for a Swiss airline (somewhat neutral nation) to fly into the DPRK?



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User currently offlineAirNZ From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (3 years 3 months 3 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 1068 times:

Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 4):
The meaning was clear to me.

Well, glad to hear that it was clear to somebody as obviously not to many others. Still don't see the aim of it myself mind you.

Quoting Semaex (Reply 7):
If the pax demand was there, would it be possible e.g. for a Swiss airline (somewhat neutral nation) to fly into the DPRK?

A good and interesting point indeed. Whilst DPRK doesn't like dialogue (a matter for themselves of course) which it would entail, I wonder would they relinquish the opportunity to prosper with the hard currency generated, and I'd certainly welcome any airline willing to try.


User currently offlinetimberwolf24 From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 575 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (3 years 3 months 3 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 1033 times:

Is this something like you are looking for? It is from 2006 and what US airlines hold. Copy and past the following into your web browser and it will pull up a pdf file. ostpxweb.dot.gov/aviation/intav/carrier.pdf


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