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Compulsory ETS Fee For 2012 EU Flights  
User currently offlinefiscal From Australia, joined Oct 2009, 328 posts, RR: 0
Posted (3 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 1341 times:

I am led to believe that all flights into and out of the EU after 1st January 2012, will now attract ANOTHER government fee for a EU Emissions Trading Scheme. With the "science" of global warming and co2 emissions having been shown to be totally discredited, this appears to be yet another tax for a tax sake.

It used to be a marketing ploy by airlines to make themselves appeal to the "greenies", allowing them to pay for carbon offsets if they so pleased. Now it seems it is compulsory.

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User currently offlineDeltaMD90 From United States of America, joined Apr 2008, 7893 posts, RR: 52
Reply 1, posted (3 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 1320 times:

There was a thread in non-av about this. As much as I disagree with the tax... it is their territory, and they are not taxing unfairly (all nations the same), but yeah, put on your flame suits it's gonna be a bumpy ride!   


Ironically I have never flown a Delta MD-90 :)
User currently offlinevinniewinnie From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 790 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (3 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 1320 times:

Quoting fiscal (Thread starter):
With the "science" of global warming and co2 emissions having been shown to be totally discredited, this appears to be yet another tax for a tax sake.

By whome exactly? lobbiest and trade groups with close ties to the oil lobby.

4 panels reviewed the University of East Anglia scandal, none of them concluded any wrongdoing or wrong results

Check it out: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Climati...s_Science_and_Technology_Committee

As to the ETS, it's about time aviation was taxed fairly like any other mode of transport. As for every mode of transport, the best ways to do it is either to tax according to the congestion caused, or the pollution emitted.

Europe is in its right to levy whatever it feels like, and international airlines will have to deal with it!


User currently offlineHAL From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 2560 posts, RR: 53
Reply 3, posted (3 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 1293 times:

Quoting fiscal (Thread starter):
With the "science" of global warming and co2 emissions having been shown to be totally discredited,

I'm sure this is going straight to non-Av, but you are wrong about that. Only those with vested interest in fossil fuel production (and money to lose if it goes away) support the meager data against global warming. On the other hand, the piles (mountains, reams, vaults) of data supporting global warming is simply too scary for some to pay attention too. It's the old 'head in the sand' routine. If a few people repeat the anti-warming message loudly enough and often enough, then those who don't really dig into the subject (most of the general population) will begin to believe them, since the people who have studied and researched global warming are smart, quiet, dilligent, and not really good at rousing the troops to their side.

HAL



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User currently offlineMir From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 21571 posts, RR: 55
Reply 4, posted (3 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 1240 times:

So how much are we talking about per flight? The whole discussion is rather meaningless without that.

-Mir



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User currently offlinefiscal From Australia, joined Oct 2009, 328 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (3 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 1213 times:

Quoting Mir (Reply 4):
So how much are we talking about per flight? The whole discussion is rather meaningless without that.

I was quoted 26USD for the return trip to the UK.


User currently offlineFlyASAGuy2005 From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 7004 posts, RR: 11
Reply 6, posted (3 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 1174 times:

Quoting fiscal (Reply 5):
I was quoted 26USD for the return trip to the UK.

On top of what's already charged to fly out of the UK. They lost my business to MAD for the crazy fees that arecharged upon departure, and thus tacked onto a ticket. I'm small potatoes, yes but just saying.



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