debonair From Germany, joined Jan 2004, 2586 posts, RR: 4 Posted (3 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 4371 times:
Hi to all, sorry if posted.
Dutch charter-airline arkefly just announced the start of a twice daily service from AMS to DXB for the W11/12 seaso, starting in november 2011.
Is there enough room for another carrier on this route? How will OR compete against KL, GA, EK & Co.?! Even the flight is online to book- there is no information about the a/c type (but as 3 classes will be offered, so I guess it will be a B763).
Other new routes: Zanzibar, Eilat/Ovda and Puerto Vallarta.
Raptor1090 From United Arab Emirates, joined May 2011, 84 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (3 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 3927 times:
Quoting HECA (Reply 3): Can a B738 do AMS - DXB withouth penalties?
I'm guessing a 3-class 737 is already "penalised" and seeing that the max range of a 737 is ~3100nm and AMS to DXB is ~2800nm in a straight line, the outbound leg wouldn't be a problem at all. Inbound leg may be a via routing.
They don't carry any cargo with them so I guess they might utilise the full potential of the B738. They will compete with fares I guess.
If not, the route will be finalised very shortly.
BTW. They have 4 B767 (which are pretty). How the hell are they able to fly to so many destinations? Will Zanzibar be flown by a 738 as well (fuel stop in Tunesia)? I can't remember who has previously flown the route but I know some European airlines have flown this route.
A388 From Netherlands Antilles, joined May 2001, 10321 posts, RR: 15
Reply 12, posted (3 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 3600 times:
Quoting debonair (Reply 10): Quoting SASMD82 (Reply 8):
BTW. They have 4 B767 (which are pretty).
Are you sure? I think they have only 2 (ex BY) B767WL with PTV and leather seats, the other 2 are older models without WL, PTV's and leather seats!
They still have PH-AHQ and PH-AHX but I was informed that they would be phased out soon after both PH-OYI and PH-OYJ were taken up. I am sure PH-AHX will be taken out of the fleet first. Flights to CUR alone which indeed are combined with other Caribbean routes are operated 5 x weekly and they have more longhaul flights. MIA is or will be another new destination.
debonair From Germany, joined Jan 2004, 2586 posts, RR: 4
Reply 19, posted (3 years 11 months 3 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 2039 times:
Quoting MH017 (Reply 17): If Norwegian can fly Oslo-Dubai with the 737-800
The standard B738 is not making it at all... TUIfly of Germany flew last winter Germany-Dubai. In order to make a save non-stop flight (without the need of refueling), the B738 was limited to around 120 passengers from Northern Germany (Hamburg) and around 140 passengers from Central Germany (Frankfurt). As far as I can remember, I read a post about DY's fuel-stops in Istanbul- if the flight is fully booked...
Quoting JRadier (Reply 15): As per scramble.nl the 737-800 will also receive Premium Comfort Class
More information available? 2 x 2 seating, or maybe free middle seat? would be nice to know...