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DL 76T Summer Schedule  
User currently offlinemetsfan1 From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 141 posts, RR: 0
Posted (3 years 2 months 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 6697 times:

Sorry if this has been posted already. I did a search and couldn't find the DL summer schdeule.

I was just wondering what routes the 76T's would be flying this summer? Specifically I am flying on DL 58 JFK-DUB on August 17. The DL website says that the plane has PTV's. I was just wondering how accurate this was and if I was actually going to get a 763 with PTVs? Thanks. Just can't sleep on airplanes.

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User currently offlinebreaker1011 From United States of America, joined Nov 2007, 938 posts, RR: 2
Reply 1, posted (3 years 2 months 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 6655 times:

At this point, I've learned not to count on PTV's on my DL flights until I see my 757/767/738 at my gate with a big ole bubble on top of the fuselage! A/C constantly getting swapped around, subbed, etc, makes the DL website's infomation about PTV's relatively unreliable.


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User currently offlinebreaker1011 From United States of America, joined Nov 2007, 938 posts, RR: 2
Reply 2, posted (3 years 2 months 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 6595 times:

Just to add in fact - my recommendation to Delta would be this:

Unless it's a 777 or 330, for which the entire fleets have PTV, perhaps stop displaying PTV info on the website. My experience has been, as indicated above, the chances of it being accurate are too random - thus might have a tendency to set expectations high and then disappoint someone. Just a good rule of thumb for customer satisfaction!

Can't blame DL for trying to be as operationally efficient as possible - but for a guy that never thought he'd care about PTV's, I must say I get "let down" when my aircraft shows up without them, whether the DL site had me expecting the feature or not.



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User currently offlinemetsfan1 From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 141 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (3 years 2 months 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 6547 times:

Thanks. I was under the impression that the transatlantic schedules were more accurate. Does anyone out there know the official schedule for flight 58 to DUB?

While I'd be happy if it had PTV's I didn't book the flight because of them. I did book this one because it was the cheapest. I am actually a CO FF and would have gotten PTV's for sure on them. However, they were charging over $300 per ticket more. I love the CO miles but for 2 people I am happy to fly DL for the savings. The PTV would be an added bonus though.


User currently offlinebreaker1011 From United States of America, joined Nov 2007, 938 posts, RR: 2
Reply 4, posted (3 years 2 months 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 6485 times:

Indeed, I don't actually buy because of a PTV, I buy because of schedule and price. But to the point, it can be a matter of expectation-setting given DL's feature to display amenities on their site, flight to flight. No need to disappoint a customer if it's just a matter of being realistic as to how accurate you can be in demonstrating service amenities. Hopefully trans-A is indeed more reliable!


Life's tough. It's even tougher if you're stupid. J. Wayne
User currently offlineEIRules From Ireland, joined Aug 2007, 777 posts, RR: 9
Reply 5, posted (3 years 2 months 4 days ago) and read 6415 times:

A friend of mine took this flight last week. On the DL website it was stated as having PTVs, on the night it didnt! I wouldnt be too hopeful if I was you. Take it as a bonus if they have them


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User currently offlinetimf From United States of America, joined Mar 2003, 969 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (3 years 2 months 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 5814 times:
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JFK-DUB has been operating with 76T on select days of the week. It would be reasonable to expect if Delta.com is showing PTVs that your flight is currently scheduled to operate with a 76T, but because the fleet is so small substitutions with non-PTV aircraft are not uncommon. Your chances of getting the 76T are far better than they would be if it wasn't showing PTVs at all.

User currently offlineLAX888 From Singapore, joined Oct 2010, 279 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (3 years 2 months 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 4759 times:

I guess I must have been lucky and got PTVs on both flights when I flew LAX-HNL-LAX last year. It mentioned on their website that there would be no PTVs. Delta should really only post this informatioin if it is accurate or maybe post them 1 day before departure to confirm if you have PTVs or not.

User currently offlineHighflier92660 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 676 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (3 years 2 months 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 3937 times:

It would be interesting to see how high a priority Delta has in upgrading both their 757 and 767 fleets with interior upgrades. One would think if Delta believed the priority business traveler found PTVs a welcome necessity on a long transcontinental or transatlantic flight they would be equipping the fleet faster. For that matter, I'm a little surprised we're that far along into 2011 without more Delta A/C being winglet equipped.

The last couple of times I flew in a Delta 757 between LAX-ATL neither of the aircraft were equipped with PTV's (or winglets for that matter.) However, on the short segment between ATL-TPA one aircraft was upgraded. Next week I do expect my JFK-LAX transcontinental flight to be equipped with the PTVs as this route has dedicated Boeing 757 aircraft.


User currently offlinedelimit From United States of America, joined Jan 2009, 1512 posts, RR: 2
Reply 9, posted (3 years 2 months 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 3869 times:

Quoting LAX888 (Reply 7):
I guess I must have been lucky and got PTVs on both flights when I flew LAX-HNL-LAX last year.

Domestic 763. All of them have PTVs. They're nice.

Quoting Highflier92660 (Reply 8):
One would think if Delta believed the priority business traveler found PTVs a welcome necessity on a long transcontinental or transatlantic flight they would be equipping the fleet faster.

J passangers already have PTVs. The upgrade will, however, give them a much nicer bed to watch them on.

Quoting Highflier92660 (Reply 8):
The last couple of times I flew in a Delta 757 between LAX-ATL neither of the aircraft were equipped with PTV's (or winglets for that matter.)

Some of them never will be.

Quoting Highflier92660 (Reply 8):
Next week I do expect my JFK-LAX transcontinental flight to be equipped with the PTVs as this route has dedicated Boeing 757 aircraft.

It will, unless you get a very unfortunate (and highly unlikely) aircraft sub. The transcons operate on international 757s, so you'll get PTVs.


User currently onlineSonomaFlyer From United States of America, joined Apr 2010, 1796 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (3 years 2 months 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 3462 times:
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Get a tablet and load it up with books, movies and/or tv shows. Then you won't care how bad the entertainment options are on your a/c! Airlines should equip their a/c in economy with 110v plugs and not worry about PTV's; smart phones and tablets are seemingly everywhere these days and folks can bring their own entertainment.

User currently offlineMichaelEI From Ireland, joined Jan 2011, 146 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (3 years 2 months 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 2721 times:

Quoting timf (Reply 6):

JFK-DUB has been operating with 76T on select days of the week. It would be reasonable to expect if Delta.com is showing PTVs that your flight is currently scheduled to operate with a 76T, but because the fleet is so small substitutions with non-PTV aircraft are not uncommon. Your chances of getting the 76T are far better than they would be if it wasn't showing PTVs at all.

Oddly enough, I was so lucky to get a 76T on a flight operated by a 76G 99.99% of the time! Just pure luck, I guess.


User currently offlineFlyASAGuy2005 From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 7004 posts, RR: 11
Reply 12, posted (3 years 2 months 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 2399 times:

Quoting Highflier92660 (Reply 8):
It would be interesting to see how high a priority Delta has in upgrading both their 757 and 767 fleets with interior upgrades. One would think if Delta believed the priority business traveler found PTVs a welcome necessity on a long transcontinental or transatlantic flight they would be equipping the fleet faster. For that matter, I'm a little surprised we're that far along into 2011 without more Delta A/C being winglet equipped.

The last couple of times I flew in a Delta 757 between LAX-ATL neither of the aircraft were equipped with PTV's (or winglets for that matter.) However, on the short segment between ATL-TPA one aircraft was upgraded. Next week I do expect my JFK-LAX transcontinental flight to be equipped with the PTVs as this route has dedicated Boeing 757 aircraft.

It's a process. A slow one, but there is a mathod to the madness. Winglet mods take time. The summer season is not the time to be pulling a/c out the operation to add blended winglets. The priority last year were the 738s. Now, all have blended winglets. Now, it seems like the focus is on the 763ER fleet. There are more and more 76Us (763ER w/winglets but without nose-to-tail AVOD) popping up. Everything has a schedule. DL has already commited to upgraded the entire domestic fleet (almost). MD88s are continuing to get their new F seats and the re-config in coach with consists of removing the aft galley and adding 5 coach seats. Old map is 14F 128Y with the new being 16F 133Y. All 'active' MD90s are complete. New config 16F 144Y. The 763 (domestic) mods are complete. New config 30F 231Y from 24F 238Y.

So, from the outside looking in, it seems like Delta isn't moving fast enough but they are very much busy. Next should be the 757s alongside the MD88s. Oh, and the first 763ER should be out of mods next month. Full flat-beds in J, new seats in Y, new galleys, new lavs, new overehad bins, etc. etc.

Quoting delimit (Reply 9):
It will, unless you get a very unfortunate (and highly unlikely) aircraft sub. The transcons operate on international 757s, so you'll get PTVs.

They try to keep the ex-TWA 75Es on JFK-LAX/SFO however, its not uncommon to have a sub to a NW 75E. Those do not have PTVs in Y. Only overhead screens. J however has the Recaro BusinessElite seats with PTVs.



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User currently offlinedelimit From United States of America, joined Jan 2009, 1512 posts, RR: 2
Reply 13, posted (3 years 2 months 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 2380 times:

Quoting FlyASAGuy2005 (Reply 12):
They try to keep the ex-TWA 75Es on JFK-LAX/SFO however, its not uncommon to have a sub to a NW 75E. Those do not have PTVs in Y. Only overhead screens. J however has the Recaro BusinessElite seats with PTVs.

I guess I have been very lucky. That's my usual route and I've never had the bad luck to have a sub.


User currently offlinepanamair From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 4910 posts, RR: 25
Reply 14, posted (3 years 2 months 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 2346 times:
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Quoting FlyASAGuy2005 (Reply 12):
They try to keep the ex-TWA 75Es on JFK-LAX/SFO however, its not uncommon to have a sub to a NW 75E.

Actually, I have seen more JFK-LAX/SFO subs with a 763ER than with the ex-NW 75As.

Quoting metsfan1 (Thread starter):
I was just wondering what routes the 76T's would be flying this summer?

They originally had them on specific routes for this summer: JFK-BUD / TXL / ZRH / SVO (you can see many of the seat maps loaded out in the future show the 76T on these routes) but the 76Ts have actually been floating around the whole system this summer. For example in the last few weeks, they have operated MSP-AMS, ATL-SCL, ATL-GIG, JFK-SVO, ATL-DUS, AMS-ATL/SEA/MEM, etc.

Right now, the only way to be sure of getting a 76T is to look at the seat map for your flight a day or two before the flight: it will be a 76T if seats 1C and 1E are missing from the BusinessElite cabin.


User currently offlineFlyASAGuy2005 From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 7004 posts, RR: 11
Reply 15, posted (3 years 2 months 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 1971 times:

Quoting delimit (Reply 13):
I guess I have been very lucky. That's my usual route and I've never had the bad luck to have a sub.



Sucks for those in the back. But hey, there are still movies that they can watch.

Quoting panamair (Reply 14):
Actually, I have seen more JFK-LAX/SFO subs with a 763ER than with the ex-NW 75As.



I looked at flights over the past few weeks. Seems like the 2363 is tardy into LAX quite a bit, usually because of the taxi time out of JFK. Usually shows out the gate on time but not getting off the ground until an hour later sometimes, plus factoring in winds. Seems to be an a/c sub on the LAX-JFK return due to the late a/c. They even subbed to a 75X once which is unusual.



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User currently offlinen7371f From United States of America, joined Jul 2008, 1734 posts, RR: 11
Reply 16, posted (3 years 2 months 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 1823 times:
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Quoting breaker1011 (Reply 1):
At this point, I've learned not to count on PTV's on my DL flights until I see my 757/767/738 at my gate with a big ole bubble on top of the fuselage! A/C constantly getting swapped around, subbed, etc, makes the DL website's infomation about PTV's relatively unreliable.

   Agreed. Too many trips this summer with 75X's being swapped out to 757's. And, frankly, given that Delta isn't putting a premium on getting Live TV or seatback IFE quickly on domestic aircraft I just prefer they scrap the system. It's still unreliable and I've noticed more and more monitors and controls, inlcuding ear jacks, in disrepair.


User currently offlinepnd100 From Canada, joined Mar 2009, 343 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (3 years 2 months 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 1812 times:

If I may ask a rudimentary newbie type question:
What exactly is a 76T?


User currently offlineFlyASAGuy2005 From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 7004 posts, RR: 11
Reply 18, posted (3 years 2 months 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 1649 times:

Quoting pnd100 (Reply 17):
If I may ask a rudimentary newbie type question:
What exactly is a 76T?

Delta code for a 767-300ER capable of flying 12hr routes (crew facilities), winglets and AVOD in Y.



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User currently offlinepnd100 From Canada, joined Mar 2009, 343 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (3 years 2 months 22 hours ago) and read 1405 times:

Quoting FlyASAGuy2005 (Reply 18):

Delta code for a 767-300ER capable of flying 12hr routes (crew facilities), winglets and AVOD in Y.

Thanks FlyASAGuy2005. So it's a DL code specifically?
I always wondered why the 767 series did not have the same distinctions as the 777.

772, 773 = A Market
77E, 77L, 77W = B Market

But for 767-200 or 200ER it seems to be the same code (762). Same for 767-300.


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