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JetBlue Short Lists Includes ISP -Schumer Today  
User currently offlineplateman From United States of America, joined May 2007, 923 posts, RR: 0
Posted (3 years 1 month 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 8404 times:

Newsday (Long Island's newspaper) has their top web story currently about JetBlue's expansion plans.

It is behind a paywall, but fair use:

"Long Island MacArthur Airport is on a short list of three as JetBlue Airways considers a new destination in the Northeast, officials said.

As part of the sales pitch, airport and Islip Town officials Monday will join Sen. Charles Schumer (D-N.Y.) to announce the breakthrough at the Ronkonkoma airport, which operates about one-third its daily flight capacity.

Schumer, who has a history of working with JetBlue, called the carrier's chief executive, Dave Barger, Friday to lobby on behalf of MacArthur.

"I said I'd be willing to do whatever it took with federal and state authorities to bring them here," the senator told Newsday in an interview. "Bottom line: I think we have a decent shot, a real shot."


AND "The two other airports in contention have not been disclosed, but sources said they are both out-of-state regional airfields."
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Interesting ... would B6 really want to have all NY airports? Thoughts anyone?

-Brian

And mods, posting this separately from other route speculation as it is a definite confirmed statement from a politican, so it's more than speculation.


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User currently offlinerl757pvd From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 4658 posts, RR: 11
Reply 1, posted (3 years 1 month 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 8350 times:

Quoting plateman (Thread starter):
"The two other airports in contention have not been disclosed, but sources said they are both out-of-state regional airfields."

I like the odds of that meaning PVD is on the short list as well...

Id guess its PVD and ISP vying for the top spot, then either ACY or MHT as the third.

[Edited 2011-07-18 05:02:44]


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User currently offlineMaverickM11 From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 17420 posts, RR: 46
Reply 2, posted (3 years 1 month 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 8176 times:

Quoting plateman (Thread starter):
Interesting ... would B6 really want to have all NY airports?

WN barely wants to be at ISP; I'm not sure why B6 would want to be there.

Quoting plateman (Thread starter):
"I said I'd be willing to do whatever it took with federal and state authorities to bring them here,

A big check

Quoting rl757pvd (Reply 1):

I like the odds of that meaning PVD is on the short list as well...

Same goes for PVD. Neither has budged in terms of WN service in years. Perhaps with enough money B6 will throw a FLL or MCO roundtrip; otherwise I think they'd focus on bigger priorities in NYC or BOS.



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User currently offlinejfklganyc From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 3431 posts, RR: 5
Reply 3, posted (3 years 1 month 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 8164 times:

ISP and PVD are def on there. Don't know the third one.

Call me crazy but I think ISP-BOS 3 times a day would get them a foothold in ISP without ruffling WNs feathers too much.


User currently offlinerl757pvd From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 4658 posts, RR: 11
Reply 4, posted (3 years 1 month 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 8138 times:

Quoting MaverickM11 (Reply 2):
Same goes for PVD. Neither has budged in terms of WN service in years. Perhaps with enough money B6 will throw a FLL or MCO roundtrip;

PVD has comprable, sometimes larger MCO/FLL numbers than BDL does (not anymore but pre-B6) with less competition, there is enough demand completely independent of BOS to support both as well as some place like RSW which has generated over 600 O&D in peak seasons and is currently unserved.



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User currently offlineMaverickM11 From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 17420 posts, RR: 46
Reply 5, posted (3 years 1 month 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 8105 times:

Quoting jfklganyc (Reply 3):
Call me crazy but I think ISP-BOS 3 times a day would get them a foothold in ISP without ruffling WNs feathers too much

WN has only shrunk ISP over the years, so while I don't think they'd care, I don't think B6 would make any money either.

Quoting rl757pvd (Reply 4):
PVD has comprable, sometimes larger MCO/FLL numbers than BDL does (not anymore but pre-B6) with less competition

It also is much easier to get to BOS, where B6 will get a lot more mileage out of additional flying than opening a new station for a handful of flights. Unfortunately PVD's relevance went out the window the moment B6 and later WN landed at BOS.



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User currently offlinerl757pvd From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 4658 posts, RR: 11
Reply 6, posted (3 years 1 month 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 8023 times:

Quoting MaverickM11 (Reply 5):
It also is much easier to get to BOS,

People really need to stop seeing these two as the same market... this is not an MDW/ORD or even an OAK/SFO comparison, but bearly a closer resemblance to MKE/Chicago. There is some overlap in service areas, but a better portion of the market is still 60-90 minutes away from BOS. Most passengers wont drive that extra distance for a comprable fare just so they can have a TV for two and a half hours.

PVD is losing pax to places where they do not have nonstop flights like LAX but PVD market leakage to FLL/MCO is extremely minimal



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User currently offlineenilria From Canada, joined Feb 2008, 7111 posts, RR: 13
Reply 7, posted (3 years 1 month 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 7996 times:

Quoting plateman (Thread starter):
AND "The two other airports in contention have not been disclosed, but sources said they are both out-of-state regional airfields."
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Interesting ... would B6 really want to have all NY airports? Thoughts anyone?
Quoting MaverickM11 (Reply 2):
WN barely wants to be at ISP; I'm not sure why B6 would want to be there.

This smells strongly of politics and not much else. I do not believe B6 wants to be in ISP. If there is something to be gained from Schumer by adding it, then they will weigh the overall impact, but I don't think the economics are there to justify service. SWF would even be better and I wouldn't endorse that. New Haven (HVN) is probably even better than ISP.


User currently offlinerichierich From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 4247 posts, RR: 6
Reply 8, posted (3 years 1 month 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 7821 times:

Quoting enilria (Reply 7):
New Haven (HVN) is probably even better than ISP.

Ha!
I don't want to turn this into a HVN thread, but I've been saying for years that HVN is a potential gold mine for the broke city of New Haven! If only they could lengthen the runway by another 500-1,000 feet, it might allow service, on say E170/190s HVN-Florida for example, without a payload penalty. I think this would work - there are over a million people living within 30 miles of HVN who currently travel to BDL, HPN, PVD and LGA/JFK for their air travel (US's HVN-PHL flights is a token service.) It's a moot point with the runway situation the way it currently is.

I can't speak for B6 or ISP but I think Maverick is right. The only reason B6 would ever fly out of ISP is because of $$$ incentives. As it is, JetBlue does very well with Long Islanders who choose JFK over LGA for their needs.



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User currently offlinemoose135 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 2312 posts, RR: 10
Reply 9, posted (3 years 1 month 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 7775 times:

Quoting richierich (Reply 8):
As it is, JetBlue does very well with Long Islanders who choose JFK over LGA for their needs.

I live on Long Island, and based on the GPS, the distances between my house and JFK, LGA, and ISP are within a mile of each other. Hands down, I would fly out of ISP every day of the week before I went to JFK or LGA if I had the choice. There are some 3 million people living on Long Island (Nassau/Suffolk) and for many, ISP is much more convenient.



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User currently offlineMaverickM11 From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 17420 posts, RR: 46
Reply 10, posted (3 years 1 month 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 7760 times:

Quoting rl757pvd (Reply 6):
Most passengers wont drive that extra distance for a comprable fare just so they can have a TV for two and a half hours

I think most of the population is closer to BOS anyway, and they'll definitely drive to whatever is cheaper since it's not that far.

Quoting rl757pvd (Reply 6):
PVD is losing pax to places where they do not have nonstop flights like LAX but PVD market leakage to FLL/MCO is extremely minimal

They're even losing passengers to FLL/MCO. PVD was forever the LCC option for BOS, along with MHT. Now that BOS and B6 and WN--and everyone else matching their fares, most of the incentive to fly out of PVD is gone.

Quoting richierich (Reply 8):
HVN is a potential gold mine for the broke city of New Haven!

I think you got your problem right there 



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User currently offlinekeagkid101 From Portugal, joined Mar 2010, 306 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (3 years 1 month 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 7704 times:

Quoting rl757pvd (Reply 6):
People really need to stop seeing these two as the same market

     

Quoting MaverickM11 (Reply 10):
I think most of the population is closer to BOS anyway, and they'll definitely drive to whatever is cheaper since it's not that far.

Mhm...not too sure about that. I live 50 miles south of Boston, about 20 minutes from PVD and 50-60 minutes from BOS. There is plenty of traffic here in southeastern Massachusetts that flies out of PVD instead of BOS. Whenever someone tells me they are going on vacation, I always ask where they are flying from. I've never heard anyone say BOS.


User currently offlineSTT757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 16857 posts, RR: 51
Reply 12, posted (3 years 1 month 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 7702 times:

Quoting plateman (Thread starter):
AND "The two other airports in contention have not been disclosed, but sources said they are both out-of-state regional airfields."

ACY, TTN.



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User currently offlinerl757pvd From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 4658 posts, RR: 11
Reply 13, posted (3 years 1 month 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 7654 times:

Quoting MaverickM11 (Reply 10):
They're even losing passengers to FLL/MCO

Not in great numbers, the O&D to MCO/FLL today is higher/same at PVD than before B6 entered BOS. Unless you have statistics that can prove otherwise. And the fact that PVD is down over 20% from peak levels and MCO/FLL have remained or have grown only adds to the evidence that it is not the case.

Here are some statistics from 2Q 2010 data that proves otherwise

FAA enplanements for 2010 (source: http://www.faa.gov/airports/planning...0_primary_enplanements_prelim.pdf)
BOS 13,561,806
PVD 1,951,564
PVD % of BOS = 14%

MCO O&D #s
BOS 2420
PVD 1031
PVD % of BOS = 42%

FLL O&D #s
BOS 1572
PVD 547
PVD % of BOS = 35%

It is quite clear that PVD does MORE than retain passengers in the FLL/MCO markets even though a few may opt for B6. Lets not forget that neither one of the markets from PVD has any competition either.



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User currently offlineenilria From Canada, joined Feb 2008, 7111 posts, RR: 13
Reply 14, posted (3 years 1 month 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 7652 times:

Quoting richierich (Reply 8):
I can't speak for B6 or ISP but I think Maverick is right. The only reason B6 would ever fly out of ISP is because of $$$ incentives.

I think politics are more likely than incentives. The incentives will be short term and politics are often forever...or until somebody like Robert Byrd dies.

Quoting richierich (Reply 8):
I don't want to turn this into a HVN thread, but I've been saying for years that HVN is a potential gold mine for the broke city of New Haven! If only they could lengthen the runway by another 500-1,000 feet, it might allow service, on say E170/190s HVN-Florida for example, without a payload penalty.

I agree with all of that.

Quoting STT757 (Reply 12):
Quoting plateman (Thread starter):
AND "The two other airports in contention have not been disclosed, but sources said they are both out-of-state regional airfields."

ACY, TTN.

Really? I think you jest. I'd be surprised to B6 in either. WN and B6 seem more interested in primary airports.


User currently onlineScottB From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 6742 posts, RR: 32
Reply 15, posted (3 years 1 month 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 7567 times:

Quoting MaverickM11 (Reply 5):
WN has only shrunk ISP over the years, so while I don't think they'd care, I don't think B6 would make any money either.

The only logical reason I can come up with would be "sending a message" to Southwest -- but it isn't clear Southwest sees great value at ISP these days. For years, yields at ISP on routes to Florida were lower than what B6 was getting at JFK; these days they are roughly comparable or a couple of percent higher at one or the other. So if they were to go into ISP, they'd likely be forced to start a fare war to compete with WN -- which would also end up stealing traffic from their own JFK operation. IMO it's a zero-sum game in the end; if JetBlue grabs a lot of passengers at ISP, Southwest will reduce service.

Quoting MaverickM11 (Reply 10):
Now that BOS and B6 and WN--and everyone else matching their fares, most of the incentive to fly out of PVD is gone.

PVD offers a very convenient travel experience, but the parking is so g-d expensive there's little cost advantage to using PVD over BOS, now that the fares are far more competitive at the latter.


User currently offlinerl757pvd From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 4658 posts, RR: 11
Reply 16, posted (3 years 1 month 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 7461 times:

Quoting ScottB (Reply 15):
PVD offers a very convenient travel experience, but the parking is so g-d expensive there's little cost advantage to using PVD over BOS,

How do you figure? Checking todays rates, PVD is 20-40% cheaper in every scenario, with parking being closer to the terminal in every scenario (equal in the case of PVD garage A and BOS term B).

Economy Parking
BOS $18/day
PVD $10/day ($50 per week)

Garage Parking
BOS $24
PVD $14-22

Off Site (used pre-flight parking)
BOS $12/day $75 week (with coupon)
PVD $10/day $46 week (with coupon)



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User currently onlineScottB From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 6742 posts, RR: 32
Reply 17, posted (3 years 1 month 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 7139 times:

Quoting rl757pvd (Reply 16):
How do you figure? Checking todays rates, PVD is 20-40% cheaper in every scenario, with parking being closer to the terminal in every scenario (equal in the case of PVD garage A and BOS term B).

There are few reasonable alternatives apart from driving to the airport and parking at PVD (unless you can get dropped off and picked up). There are many inter-city bus and public transit options for using BOS.


User currently offlineSTT757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 16857 posts, RR: 51
Reply 18, posted (3 years 1 month 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 7024 times:

Quoting enilria (Reply 14):
Really? I think you jest. I'd be surprised to B6 in either. WN and B6 seem more interested in primary airports.
ISP is a primary airport? ACY and ISP are very close to each other in terms of traffic, ACY being in an area where B6 has no presence.

BTW..

With regards to ACY the State of New Jersey is looking to have the Port Authority of NY and NJ take over control.

[Edited 2011-07-18 10:52:57]


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User currently offlineUSAirALB From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 3052 posts, RR: 2
Reply 19, posted (3 years 1 month 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 6998 times:

I would have thought that B6 would have served ALB before ISP. Even without serving ISP, ALB is the largest NY market currently without B6 service.


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User currently offlinegift4tbone From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 612 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (3 years 1 month 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 6947 times:

Quoting ScottB (Reply 17):
There are few reasonable alternatives apart from driving to the airport and parking at PVD (unless you can get dropped off and picked up). There are many inter-city bus and public transit options for using BOS.

I know not quite as good as BOS, but I think you might have forgotten about a multi-million dollar project at PVD.

http://www.pvdairport.com/main.aspx?sec_id=62



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User currently offlinerl757pvd From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 4658 posts, RR: 11
Reply 21, posted (3 years 1 month 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 6929 times:

Quoting ScottB (Reply 17):
There are few reasonable alternatives apart from driving to the airport and parking at PVD (unless you can get dropped off and picked up). There are many inter-city bus and public transit options for using BOS.

Well that part will change next year when the full rail schedule goes into effect and there will be 8-10 round trips to south station. Your comment seemed to be comparing parking options.

But as far as transit goes, thats normally non-existant for medium sized airports, compared to places like RSW, ONT, SAT, IND, PVDs existing transit offerings far exceed. I hear the track work necessary to increase the # of MBTA trains will take place this fall.



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User currently offlinejayspilot From United States of America, joined May 2001, 298 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (3 years 1 month 6 days ago) and read 6343 times:

I think ACY is a good choice. Gives them access to the east of Philly suburbs without the mess of PHL. As said above this is a gap in their current market between BWI and EWR. Also, B6 sends a lot of diversions into ACY from JFK. Having a company station would probably help a lot in a case where a diverson goes tech and also with a better fuel contract instead of just being an on demand customer...

User currently onlineScottB From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 6742 posts, RR: 32
Reply 23, posted (3 years 1 month 6 days ago) and read 6181 times:

Quoting rl757pvd (Reply 21):
Your comment seemed to be comparing parking options.

Yes, I ought to have been more clear; the options for using PVD are few apart from overpriced (IMO) parking. I think the cost of parking at PVD reduces the attractiveness from north of 495, given similar fares available at BOS with a broader selection of non-stops. It just seems crazy that parking at PVD costs more than parking in downtown Providence.

Quoting rl757pvd (Reply 21):
Well that part will change next year when the full rail schedule goes into effect and there will be 8-10 round trips to south station.

It seems to have taken about ten years longer than it should have to link PVD into the Commuter Rail.


User currently offlineHannigan From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 327 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (3 years 1 month 6 days ago) and read 6154 times:

Quoting plateman (Thread starter):
The two other airports in contention have not been disclosed, but sources said they are both out-of-state regional airfields.

SAV



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25 Coronado990 : Hey, how about a Long Island to Long Beach non-stop? Great PR. I wonder how it would do.
26 enilria : No, none are, but Schumer is a powerful figure. I don't think that will be a good move. 1) I would say that ACY will be little more than a distractio
27 Post contains images rl757pvd : I think 495 is essentially the dividing line anyways, I think the pull from the other side is minimal, thankfully there are over 2 million people on
28 Post contains images jblua320 : We fly to SWF already
29 MaverickM11 : I'm not sure that's much of an achievement to tout; congrats on holding onto some cheap traffic? That seems to be standard operating procedure. Conne
30 N766UA : If JetBlue flew into ISP, I believe that'd make them the only maineline carrier to serve every single NYC area airport at the same time- EWR, LGA, JFK
31 rl757pvd : Umm wrong again... 2010 Q2 average fares: MCO: BOS $168 PVD $170 FLL: BOS $170 PVD $171 Again, the primarly reason people would drive to BOS is for a
32 Post contains links B6JFKH81 : I am wondering if an ISP - SJU would work? Being from Long Island, I have seen the latin community continue to grow, and based on the info from the fo
33 indio66 : I agree with this - Long Island is packed with people that would very much prefer ISP to LGA or JFK. I would think that flights to Florida, Chicago,
34 catiii : Speaking of politics, the Governor trying to help out the Senate president with that one. Let's see how UA/CO, AA, and DL feel about that when the pi
35 jonathanxxxx : SAV seems like a possibility. It could theoratically work. As for STL isn't it supposed to be a destination in the Northeast? And my guesses are: PVD
36 MaverickM11 : No it's definitely cheap traffic; the average fare BOSFLL/MCO is lower than to DCA. I never said BOS had a premium over PVD; in fact that would suppo
37 catiii : They're already in Albany, NY so scratch that. What about BGR?
38 sasd209 : Couldn't agree more, it's a shame that HVN's potential is all but ignored by the politicians in CT. Looks like the ones in NY ( ISP) are far more 'in
39 richierich : Well LGB has been pulled down as LAX has been increased. Along with a similar shift at OAK and SFO, there has been a quiet but fundament shift going
40 Post contains links and images B6JFKH81 : That's news to me http://www.jetblue.com/wherewejet/
41 rl757pvd : The OP states the other two others are regional airports outside of NY B6 does not serve ALB You are entitled to your oppinion but if you look at the
42 PI767 : While I understand that Providence is NOT Boston, let's not forget that Southwest has attempted Islip-Providence service in the past (with 4 daily fl
43 BOStonsox : ISP is looking good, it should be able to support BOS service (it has before) and if not that then Florida. PVD is also a good one to compliment BOS.
44 dragon-wings : My cousin travels a lot for his job and he flies Jetblue. He HATES having to go to JFK or LGA. He would love it if Jetblue came to ISP.
45 Post contains links B6JFKH81 : Here is a non-pay article: http://abclocal.go.com/wabc/story?section=news/business&id=8257278
46 catiii : My mistake. Cape Air serves it for them.
47 NYCFlyer : Can you please add a little more color to this statement? Is ISP really THAT bad? Amen to that. As a part-time Long Islander, ISP is the most conveni
48 STT757 : Well considering the NJ and NY Governors allowed the Port Authority to change their charter so they could acquire SWF I don't see this as a stretch,
49 nkops : thanks for the link.. according to that article, I don't see anything about a short-list, unless the other article reads different. Seems they gave t
50 catiii : Right, which is what leads me to think that UA/CO would go to Christie and try and scuttle it, as it could poach traffic away from EWR.
51 lat41 : From Reply 10 There is a large pool of population and business in Southern New England that would certainly avoid BOS given a choice. The completion o
52 chrisnh : Looking at the economic projections for New England, New Hampshire is poised to do very, very well in the coming years relative to neighboring, nearby
53 adxmatt : With the amount of flights from JFK to SJU I think ISP could support a 1x daily round trip or at least 5x week. Between the Puerto Rican community an
54 soon7x7 : Jet Blue also serves Bermuda, the Carribean and other stops that Long Islanders often frequent, that WN does not. Here on LI, we are not a society sol
55 Post contains images MaverickM11 : WN hasn't grown ISP in years; in fact it has reduced operations there, and now that the focus is on EWR/LGA, ISP is on the back-back-back burner for
56 USAirALB : Kinda sorta. Yeah you can fly ALB-BOS on Cape Air then connect to B6, but ALB is not a small market the B6/Cape Air codeshare is designed to feed peo
57 ScottB : You realize your cousin embodies the argument as to why JetBlue should NOT add ISP, right? While it would be more convenient for him, the relative in
58 bjorn14 : That unfortunately will never, ever happen because of the East Haven NIMBYs.
59 richierich : Oh, I'm well aware of this! Just about all of these NIMBYs, by the way, moved into their properties knowing very well there was an airport next to th
60 GolfBravoRomeo : Did they ever? Why do I think it was one of their initial destinations?
61 rl757pvd : Because they did every other mid sized city in upstate NY (BUF ROC SYR) plus BTV
62 2travel2know2 : Different schedules for Long Islanders (and some New Yorkers)? B6 @ JFK faces capacity constrains, something that wouldn't happen in ISP. Regardless
63 Post contains images MaverickM11 : Their startup was heavily influenced/helped by politicians and it would seem reasonable to serve the mothership of NY state politicians
64 ScottB : They'd probably need to demolish and rebuild the west concourse in order to add FIS facilities. The schedule synergy between JFK and ISP is limited d
65 AADC10 : The only possible reason for this is that they are trading for some kind of concession at another NYC airport. B6 got into JFK in the first place by
66 LONGisland89 : Agreed! Before WN and the Town of Islip decided to build the new concourse, I imagined a new terminal on the North side of the field as the best opti
67 bjorn14 : I would consider BDR if the town itself wasn't such a dump. I always thought GON could be interesting if they could expand. BTW, what is it with all
68 richierich : I believe all were designed and built when shorter runways were all that was required. These airports were only meant to be regional in nature. By th
69 rl757pvd : All were built before the jet-age is the primary reason I always though FL should have tried to see if they could make HVN-BWI work on the 717.
70 richierich : That would be interesting... competing with Amtrak mainly. I think it could work but they'll never try it. FL don't even fly to BDL (well, WN does.)
71 sasd209 : Haha!! They can't even get a RWY safety area done to comply with FAA regs, nevermind any EXPANSION!! I think we're up to 4, 5? crashes because of tha
72 Art at ISP : I believe the end game here is for Schumer to get his face in the news for trying to do something for Long Island. He has a history with JetBlue, and
73 MAV88 : I don't understand how BOS does not have service to BNA. I know B6 closed BNA, but why not give it a shot from BOS? As far as the BOS/PVD, people in t
74 Flytravel : Perhaps BOS since NK is just going seasonal. With atleast 2 flights per day there. It'd make it easier for SJ residents to commute (via day trip) int
75 adxmatt : It stopped in HPN enroute to ORD.
76 jfklganyc : "The only possible reason for this is that they are trading for some kind of concession at another NYC airport. B6 got into JFK in the first place by
77 Post contains images BOStonsox : Hmm. Maybe B6 will start service to ORH so that a whole terminal in BOS can open up for them? The short list of cities will have to be large enough t
78 rl757pvd : I think PVD when opened will be the same deal as BDL with MCO/FLL and throw in RSW instead of SJU.
79 slcdeltarumd11 : I really hope ACY is on their list! They could kick spirits butt with their great product i bet. Service to BOS for connections would give alot of opt
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