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OAG Changes 7/22/2011: AS/B6/DL/NK/UA  
User currently offlineenilria From Canada, joined Feb 2008, 7138 posts, RR: 13
Posted (3 years 1 month 1 week 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 5866 times:

INSTRUCTIONS

WHAT IS THIS REPORT?
This compares what is for sale THIS WEEK for the stated period versus what was for sale LAST WEEK...It does NOT compare to last year or now (UNLESS OTHERWISE STATED).

HOW DO I READ IT?
XXX-YYY 4>5 DEC 4>5 JAN; means that the listed airline changed the frequency between the two airports to add from 4 to 5 roundtrips in December and January. No other months were changed. I only list one direction, although it is possible the listed change is only one way. It is too difficult to average the two directions. I assume the change is roundtrip and that is most often the case.

HOW ARE THE DAILY DEPARTURES CALCULATED?
This report uses total operations for the month listed, divided over the days in the month.

WHAT ARE THE FRACTIONAL FLIGHTS?
Non-daily operations create fractional weekly service. In most cases flights are rounded, but in the case of international service or markets with low frequency, fractions are shown. If a flight operated 5 days out of 7, it would show 0.8 flights.

WHY ARE THERE WEIRD FREQUENCIES IN FAR AWAY MONTHS FOR LCCs?
Most airlines publish schedules 11 months in advance. This report covers the next 9 months. That avoids seeing schedules as they are loaded. Several LCCs load their schedules less than 9 months into the future. Their schedules may also end mid-month. If B6 loads their schedule until Jan15, all flights in Janaury will show half frequency because of the way the report is created.

WHY IS A WHOLE AIRLINE'S SCHEDULE SHOWN AS CHANGING FOR A FUTURE MONTH?
Similarly to the previous question, some airlines load their schedule from nothing inside the 9 month window of this report. When their schedule is extended it will show as new service because there was no previous schedule to compare to. In some instances I will show a more valid comparison against another period.

THOSE FLIGHTS AREN'T DELTA, THEY ARE PINNACLE
This report only shows the marketing code. It is too complicated to show all the operators.

THE FREQUENCIES MAY HAVE CHANGED AS YOU SHOW, BUT THE SEATS DIDNT CHANGE BECAUSE OF EQUIPMENT SWAPS
That is a natural weakness of a frequency based report, but it provides something to discuss below.

THE FREQUENCY DOESN'T SHOW A CHANGE, E.G. 4>4
This happens as a result of rounding. There is a change in service that is large enough to be listed, but through rounding it does not appear.

I marked some of the ones I thought were interesting with an "*".


*AA SJU-LRM NOV 0>0.1 DEC 0>0.3 JAN 0>0.3 FEB 0>0.3 MAR 0>0.3
*AA SJU-NEV AUG 0.4>0 SEP 0.4>0 OCT 0.4>0 NOV 0.4>0 DEC 0.4>0 JAN 0.4>0 FEB 0.5>0

MAR 0.4>0

AC ORD-YUL SEP 5>4 OCT 5>4

AM LAS-MTY SEP 0.3>0.5
AM LAX-GDL AUG 3>2 SEP 3>2 OCT 3>2
AM LAX-HMO DEC 0.8>1.0 JAN 0.9>1.0 FEB 0.9>1.0 MAR 0.8>1.0
AM ORD-DGO SEP 0.1>0

*AS HNL-SAN DEC 0>1.0 JAN 0>1.0 FEB 0>1.0 MAR 0>1.0
*AS SAN-PVR NOV 0.8>0.3 DEC 1.0>0.5 JAN 1.0>0.4 FEB 1.0>0.4 MAR 1.0>0.5
AS SEA-YVR NOV 7>6 DEC 7>6 JAN 7>6 FEB 8>7

This is primarily a schedule extension from mid-Feb to early Mar. It is therefore

almost impossible to read. The March schedule is just a few days, so it is best

ignored. There are sprinkled in here some changes that clearly are not related to

the schedule extension. I will mark them with a "#" sign
B6 AUS-SFO MAR 0>1.0
#B6 BDL-SJU JAN 0>0.9 FEB 0>1.0 MAR 0>1.0
B6 BOS-AUA FEB 0.7>1.5 MAR 0>1.8
B6 BOS-AUS MAR 0>1.0
B6 BOS-BUF FEB 1.3>3 MAR 0>3
B6 BOS-BWI FEB 3>5 MAR 0>5
B6 BOS-CLT FEB 1.1>3 MAR 0>2
B6 BOS-CUN FEB 0.3>0.9 MAR 0>1.2
B6 BOS-DCA FEB 4>7 MAR 0>7
B6 BOS-DEN FEB 1.0>2 MAR 0>2
B6 BOS-EWR FEB 3>4 MAR 0>4
#B6 BOS-IAD SEP 5>4 NOV 5>4 FEB 3>5 MAR 0>5
#B6 BOS-JAX NOV 1.0>1.9 FEB 0.5>1.5 MAR 0>2
B6 BOS-LAS FEB 1.1>3 MAR 0>2
B6 BOS-LAX FEB 1.0>1.9 MAR 0>1.8
B6 BOS-MBJ FEB 0.2>0.3 MAR 0>0.2
B6 BOS-MSY MAR 0>1.0
B6 BOS-NAS FEB 0.2>1.0 MAR 0>1.0
B6 BOS-ORD FEB 1.5>3 MAR 0>2
B6 BOS-PBI FEB 3>6 MAR 0>6
B6 BOS-PHX MAR 0>1.0
B6 BOS-PIT FEB 1.5>3 MAR 0>3
B6 BOS-PLS FEB 0.1>0.3 MAR 0>0.3
B6 BOS-PUJ FEB 0.2>0.3 MAR 0>0.3
B6 BOS-RDU FEB 1.5>3 MAR 0>3
B6 BOS-RIC FEB 0.9>1.9 MAR 0>2
#B6 BOS-RSW NOV 5>4 FEB 3>6 MAR 0>6
B6 BOS-SAN MAR 0>1.0
B6 BOS-SDQ FEB 0.3>0.6 MAR 0>0.6
B6 BOS-SEA MAR 0>1.0
B6 BOS-SFO FEB 1.5>3 MAR 0>3
#B6 BOS-SJU NOV 2>3 FEB 1.4>4 MAR 0>4
B6 BOS-SRQ MAR 0>1.0
#B6 BOS-STI NOV 0.1>0.4 DEC 0.2>0.4 FEB 0.2>0.4 MAR 0>0.4
B6 BOS-STT MAR 0>0.7
B6 BOS-SXM FEB 0.1>0.3 MAR 0>0.4
B6 BOS-TPA FEB 1.6>5 MAR 0>5
B6 BUF-RSW MAR 0>1.0
B6 BUR-LAS MAR 0>1.0
B6 EWR-PBI FEB 1.1>3 MAR 0>2
B6 EWR-RSW FEB 1.1>3 MAR 0>2
B6 EWR-TPA MAR 0>1.0
B6 FLL-AUS MAR 0>1.0
B6 FLL-BDL FEB 1.1>3 MAR 0>2
B6 FLL-BOS FEB 3>7 MAR 0>8
B6 FLL-BUF MAR 0>1.0
B6 FLL-CUN FEB 0.5>1.0 MAR 0>1.0
B6 FLL-DCA MAR 0>1.0
B6 FLL-EWR FEB 3>5 MAR 0>5
B6 FLL-HPN FEB 1.6>4 MAR 0>3
B6 FLL-IAD FEB 0.8>3 MAR 0>3
B6 FLL-LAX MAR 0>1.0
#B6 FLL-LGA OCT 5>6 FEB 3>6 MAR 0>5
#B6 FLL-NAS NOV 2>3 FEB 1.1>3 MAR 0>3
B6 FLL-RDU MAR 0>1.0
B6 FLL-RIC MAR 0>1.0
B6 FLL-SDQ FEB 0.5>1.0 MAR 0>1.0
B6 FLL-SFO MAR 0>1.0
#B6 FLL-SJU NOV 4>3 FEB 1.6>4 MAR 0>4
B6 FLL-SWF MAR 0>1.0
B6 HPN-PBI FEB 1.5>4 MAR 0>3
B6 HPN-RSW FEB 0.9>1.9 MAR 0>2
B6 HPN-TPA MAR 0>1.0
B6 IAD-CUN MAR 0>0.2
B6 JAX-SJU FEB 0.5>1.0 MAR 0>1.0
#B6 JFK-AUA DEC 1.7>2 FEB 0.9>3 MAR 0>3
B6 JFK-AUS FEB 1.1>3 MAR 0>3
B6 JFK-BDA FEB 0.4>0.7 MAR 0>0.7
B6 JFK-BGI FEB 0.5>1.0 MAR 0>1.0
B6 JFK-BOS FEB 4>7 MAR 0>6
B6 JFK-BQN FEB 1.1>3 MAR 0>2
B6 JFK-BQN FEB 1.1>3 MAR 0>2
B6 JFK-BTV FEB 1.8>4 MAR 0>4
B6 JFK-BUF FEB 4>7 MAR 0>7
B6 JFK-BUR FEB 1.0>2 MAR 0>2
B6 JFK-CLT FEB 1.3>3 MAR 0>3
B6 JFK-CUN FEB 0.9>3 MAR 0>1.6
B6 JFK-DEN MAR 0>1.0
B6 JFK-FLL FEB 5>11 MAR 0>11
B6 JFK-HOU FEB 1.0>2 MAR 0>2
B6 JFK-IAD FEB 1.0>1.9 MAR 0>1.8
B6 JFK-JAX FEB 1.4>3 MAR 0>3
B6 JFK-KIN FEB 0.5>1.0 MAR 0>1.0
B6 JFK-LAS FEB 1.6>4 MAR 0>4
B6 JFK-LAX FEB 3>4 MAR 0>3
B6 JFK-LIR FEB 0.3>0.6 MAR 0>0.6
B6 JFK-LRM FEB 0.2>0.3 MAR 0>0.3
B6 JFK-MBJ FEB 0.5>1.3 MAR 0>1.6
B6 JFK-MSY FEB 1.2>3 MAR 0>3
#B6 JFK-NAS NOV 2.0>3 FEB 0.5>2.0 MAR 0>3
B6 JFK-OAK MAR 0>0.7
The anti-NK flight won't operate in JAN apparently!
#B6 JFK-ORD JAN 1.9>1.0 MAR 0>2
B6 JFK-PBI FEB 3>7 MAR 0>8
B6 JFK-PHX FEB 0.8>1.8 MAR 0>1.8
B6 JFK-PIT FEB 1.1>3 MAR 0>2
B6 JFK-PLS FEB 0.5>1.0 MAR 0>1.0
B6 JFK-POP FEB 0.5>1.0 MAR 0>1.0
B6 JFK-PSE FEB 0.5>1.0 MAR 0>1.0
B6 JFK-PUJ FEB 0.5>1.3 MAR 0>1.4
B6 JFK-PWM FEB 1.6>4 MAR 0>3
B6 JFK-RDU FEB 1.3>3 MAR 0>3
B6 JFK-ROC FEB 3>4 MAR 0>4
B6 JFK-RSW FEB 1.8>5 MAR 0>5
B6 JFK-SAN FEB 0.8>1.8 MAR 0>1.8
B6 JFK-SDQ FEB 2.0>5 MAR 0>5
B6 JFK-SEA MAR 0>1.0
B6 JFK-SFO FEB 1.1>2 MAR 0>1.8
B6 JFK-SJC MAR 0>1.0
B6 JFK-SJU FEB 3>7 MAR 0>7
B6 JFK-SLC MAR 0>1.0
B6 JFK-SRQ FEB 1.1>3 MAR 0>2
B6 JFK-STI FEB 3>6 MAR 0>6
B6 JFK-SXM FEB 0.6>1.2 MAR 0>1.2
B6 JFK-SYR FEB 3>4 MAR 0>3
B6 JFK-TPA FEB 3>5 MAR 0>5
B6 JFK-UVF FEB 0.2>0.6 MAR 0>0.7
B6 LGA-PBI FEB 1.1>3 MAR 0>2
B6 LGB-AUS MAR 0>1.0
#B6 LGB-BOS NOV 0.9>0.7
B6 LGB-IAD MAR 0>1.0
B6 LGB-JFK FEB 0.9>1.9 MAR 0>1.7
B6 LGB-LAS FEB 3>5 MAR 0>5
B6 LGB-OAK FEB 1.6>4 MAR 0>3
B6 LGB-ORD MAR 0>1.0
B6 LGB-PDX FEB 1.1>3 MAR 0>2
B6 LGB-SEA FEB 1.4>3 MAR 0>3
B6 LGB-SFO FEB 1.6>4 MAR 0>3
B6 LGB-SLC FEB 1.6>4 MAR 0>3
B6 LGB-SMF FEB 1.5>4 MAR 0>3
B6 MCO-AUS MAR 0>1.0
B6 MCO-BDL FEB 1.1>3 MAR 0>2
B6 MCO-BOG FEB 0.5>1.0 MAR 0>1.0
B6 MCO-BOS FEB 4>8 MAR 0>7
B6 MCO-BQN FEB 0.5>1.0 MAR 0>1.0
B6 MCO-BQN MAR 0>1.0
B6 MCO-BTV MAR 0>1.0
B6 MCO-BUF FEB 0.5>1.5 MAR 0>2
B6 MCO-CUN FEB 0.5>1.0 MAR 0>1.0
B6 MCO-DCA MAR 0>1.0
B6 MCO-EWR FEB 3>5 MAR 0>5
B6 MCO-HPN FEB 1.9>4 MAR 0>4
B6 MCO-IAD FEB 1.5>4 MAR 0>3
B6 MCO-JFK FEB 5>10 MAR 0>10
B6 MCO-LGA FEB 1.1>3 MAR 0>2
B6 MCO-MBJ FEB 0.5>1.0 MAR 0>1.0
B6 MCO-NAS FEB 0.5>1.0

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User currently offlineenilria From Canada, joined Feb 2008, 7138 posts, RR: 13
Reply 1, posted (3 years 1 month 1 week 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 5921 times:

BW PHL-MBJ AUG 0>1.0 SEP 0>1.0 OCT 0>1.0 NOV 0>1.0 DEC 0>1.0 JAN 0>1.0 FEB 0>1.0 MAR 0>1.0

CI HNL-NRT AUG 0.7>0.9 SEP 0.7>1.0 OCT 0.7>1.0 NOV 0.7>1.0 DEC 0.7>1.0 JAN 0.7>1.0 FEB 0.8>1.0 MAR 0.7>1.0

CO EWR-DEN NOV 5>4 DEC 5>4 JAN 5>4 FEB 5>4 MAR 5>4
*CO EWR-SXM NOV 0.5>0.0 DEC 0.8>0.1 JAN 1.3>0.3 FEB 1.3>0.3 MAR 1.3>0.3

*DL ATL-HDN JAN 0>1.0 FEB 0>1.0 MAR 0>1.0
*DL DTW-HND SEP 1.0>0 OCT 1.0>0 NOV 1.0>0 DEC 1.0>0 JAN 1.0>0 FEB 1.0>0 MAR 1.0>0
*DL HDN-MSP JAN 0>1.0 FEB 0>1.0 MAR 0>1.0
*DL MIA-LHR SEP 1.0>0.9
DL MSP-LIR JAN 0>0.1

F9 DEN-COS SEP 5>6
*F9 DEN-TUS JAN 1.0>2 FEB 1.0>3
Behold...an increase in MKE service. A gain from OO's cut.
*F9 MKE-PIT OCT 1.7>3 DEC 1.7>3 JAN 1.7>3 FEB 1.8>3

G4 AZA-BIL MAR 0.6>0.4
G4 AZA-BIS JAN 0.7>0.5 FEB 0.8>0.4 MAR 0.7>0.4
G4 AZA-CID JAN 0.7>0.4 FEB 0.8>0.5 MAR 0.7>0.4
G4 AZA-MSO JAN 0.5>0.3 FEB 0.6>0.3 MAR 0.6>0.3
G4 AZA-PIA JAN 0.5>0.3 FEB 0.6>0.3 MAR 0.6>0.3
G4 AZA-RAP JAN 0.5>0.3 FEB 0.6>0.3 MAR 0.6>0.3
G4 BIS-LAS JAN 0.4>0.3 FEB 0.4>0.3 MAR 0.5>0.3
G4 BLI-OAK JAN 0.7>0.5 FEB 0.8>0.4 MAR 0.7>0.4
G4 BLI-PSP MAR 0.7>0.5
G4 CHA-PIE JAN 0.4>0.3 FEB 0.5>0.3 MAR 0.4>0.3
G4 DSM-LAX DEC 0.3>0.2
G4 ELM-SFB JAN 0.5>0.3 FEB 0.6>0.3 MAR 0.6>0.3
G4 EUG-LAS JAN 0.4>0.3 FEB 0.5>0.3 MAR 0.4>0.3
G4 EUG-OAK JAN 0.5>0.3 FEB 0.6>0.3 MAR 0.6>0.3
G4 FLL-GSP JAN 0.5>0.3 FEB 0.6>0.3 MAR 0.6>0.3
G4 FLL-PBG MAR 1.3>1.0
G4 FLL-TYS JAN 0.5>0.3 FEB 0.6>0.3 MAR 0.6>0.3
G4 FSD-SFB JAN 0.4>0.3 FEB 0.5>0.3 MAR 0.4>0.3
G4 GRR-PIE FEB 0.6>0.4 MAR 0.6>0.4
G4 GRR-SFB FEB 0.6>0.4 MAR 0.6>0.4
G4 GSP-PIE MAR 0.6>0.4
G4 HTS-PIE JAN 0.4>0.3 FEB 0.5>0.3 MAR 0.4>0.3
G4 ICT-LAX DEC 0.3>0.2
G4 ILM-SFB JAN 0.4>0.3 FEB 0.5>0.3 MAR 0.4>0.3
G4 LAS-LRD JAN 0.4>0.3 FEB 0.5>0.3 MAR 0.4>0.3
G4 LAX-XNA JAN 0.4>0.3 FEB 0.5>0.3 MAR 0.4>0.3
G4 LEX-PIE JAN 0.5>0.3 FEB 0.6>0.3 MAR 0.6>0.3
G4 MFE-SFB JAN 0.4>0.3 FEB 0.5>0.3 MAR 0.4>0.3
G4 PIE-RFD JAN 0.4>0.3 FEB 0.5>0.3 MAR 0.4>0.3
G4 PIE-ROA JAN 0.4>0.3 FEB 0.5>0.3 MAR 0.4>0.3
G4 PIE-TRI JAN 0.3>0.0
G4 PIE-TYS FEB 0.5>0.3 MAR 0.4>0.3
G4 RFD-SFB FEB 0.5>0.3 MAR 0.4>0.3
G4 SBN-SFB FEB 0.6>0.4 MAR 0.6>0.4
G4 SFB-TRI JAN 0.5>0.3 FEB 0.6>0.3 MAR 0.6>0.3
G4 SFB-TYS JAN 0.7>0.5 FEB 0.8>0.4 MAR 0.7>0.4

HT JFK-ATH AUG 0.6>0.3 SEP 0.6>0.3 OCT 0.6>0.3

K5 ONP-SLE AUG 1.5>0 SEP 1.5>0 OCT 1.4>0 NOV 1.5>0 DEC 1.6>0 JAN 1.5>0 FEB 1.6>0 MAR 1.6>0
K5 PDX-SLE AUG 1.6>0 SEP 1.6>0 OCT 1.5>0 NOV 1.6>0 DEC 1.4>0 JAN 1.4>0 FEB 1.5>0 MAR 1.4>0

KE ANC-ICN AUG 0>0.1
*KE GUM-KIX OCT 1.0>0.0 NOV 1.0>0 DEC 1.0>0.2 JAN 1.0>0.3 FEB 1.0>0.4

ACY continued to get hacked to fund ORD/LAS
*NK ACY-BOS NOV 0.7>0 DEC 1.0>0 JAN 1.0>0 FEB 1.0>0
NK ACY-MCO DEC 3>2 JAN 3>2 FEB 4>3
NK DTW-RSW NOV 3>1.4 DEC 3>2 JAN 3>2 FEB 4>3
Continued cuts in FLL
*NK BOS-FLL NOV 1.6>1.0 DEC 1.9>1.0 JAN 2>1.0 FEB 3>1.0
NK FLL-BQN NOV 0.8>0.5 DEC 0.8>0.6 JAN 1.0>0.6 FEB 1.0>0.6
NK FLL-CTG DEC 0.4>0.5
NK FLL-KIN NOV 0.7>0.4 DEC 0.9>0.4 JAN 1.0>0.5 FEB 1.0>0.4
NK FLL-LAS FEB 0.8>0
NK FLL-LGA NOV 5>4 DEC 5>4 JAN 5>4 FEB 6>5
NK FLL-MBJ NOV 0.7>0.5 DEC 0.9>0.6 JAN 1.0>0.5 FEB 1.0>0.6
NK FLL-MDE DEC 1.0>0.8 JAN 1.0>0.9 FEB 1.0>0.9
NK FLL-NAS NOV 1.6>1.0 DEC 1.9>1.0 JAN 2>1.0 FEB 3>1.0
NK FLL-SJO DEC 1.4>1.6 JAN 1.4>1.6 FEB 1.5>1.6
NK FLL-SJU NOV 3>2 JAN 4>3 FEB 4>3
NK FLL-STI NOV 0.5>0.3 DEC 0.5>0.3 JAN 0.6>0.3 FEB 0.6>0.3

OZ SPN-NRT AUG 0>0.2

TA IAD-SAL SEP 3>1.8 OCT 3>1.7
TA MIA-SAL SEP 1.4>1.0 OCT 1.4>1.0 NOV 1.4>1.0

U5 ORD-PVR SEP 0.1>0 OCT 0.2>0

UA DEN-CLE NOV 1.5>0.7 DEC 1.7>0.7 JAN 1.6>0.6 FEB 1.6>0.6 MAR 1.6>0.6
I believe CO is flying this as well, right? I've given up understanding the merger mess.
*UA DEN-MIA JAN 0>1.0 FEB 0>1.0 MAR 0>1.0
UA DEN-MOT JAN 1.9>3 FEB 1.9>3 MAR 1.8>3
UA EWR-DEN NOV 3>1.0 DEC 3>1.0 JAN 3>1.0 FEB 4>1.0 MAR 3>1.0
UA IAD-DTW NOV 4>3
UA IAD-MIA NOV 2>3 DEC 2>3 JAN 2>3 FEB 3>4 MAR 2>3
UA IAD-MSY NOV 2>3
UA IAD-YOW NOV 2>3 DEC 2>3 JAN 2>3 FEB 3>4 MAR 2>3
UA LAX-ELP NOV 1.8>1.0
UA ORD-ATL NOV 7>8 DEC 7>8
UA ORD-BNA NOV 5>6 DEC 5>6 JAN 5>6 FEB 5>6 MAR 5>6
UA ORD-LAS NOV 5>4
UA ORD-YEG NOV 3>2
UA SFO-EUG NOV 7>6
UA SFO-MFR NOV 7>6

UX JFK-MAD NOV 1.0>0.8 DEC 1.0>0.9 JAN 1.0>0.9 FEB 1.0>0.9 MAR 1.0>0.9
UX MIA-MAD NOV 0.7>0.6 DEC 0.7>0.5 JAN 0.7>0.6 FEB 0.8>0.6 MAR 0.7>0.5

Once again, a schedule extension. It looks like the March schedule is only loaded for about 15-20 days. So, the March departure levels are not relevant.
VX BOS-LAX JAN 0.2>2.0 FEB 0>3 MAR 0>2.0
VX BOS-SFO JAN 0.3>2 FEB 0>3 MAR 0>2
VX DFW-LAX JAN 0.4>3 FEB 0>4 MAR 0>3
VX DFW-SFO JAN 0.4>3 FEB 0>4 MAR 0>3
VX FLL-LAX JAN 0.2>2.0 FEB 0>3 MAR 0>2.0
VX FLL-SFO JAN 0.3>2 FEB 0>3 MAR 0>2
VX IAD-LAX JAN 0.3>3 FEB 0>3 MAR 0>3
VX IAD-SFO JAN 0.5>3 FEB 0>3 MAR 0>3
VX JFK-LAS JAN 0.1>1.0 FEB 0>1.0 MAR 0>1.0
VX JFK-LAX JAN 0.7>6 FEB 0>7 MAR 0>6
*VX JFK-SFO DEC 4>5 JAN 0.5>5 FEB 0>6 MAR 0>5
VX LAS-SFO JAN 0.8>7 FEB 0>7 MAR 0>6
VX LAX-CUN JAN 0.1>0.7 FEB 0>0.8 MAR 0>0.7
VX LAX-MCO JAN 0.1>1.0 FEB 0>1.0 MAR 0>1.0
NK reaction?
*VX LAX-ORD OCT 2>3 NOV 2.0>3 DEC 2>3 JAN 0.3>3 FEB 0>4 MAR 0>3
VX LAX-SEA JAN 0.5>4 FEB 0>4 MAR 0>4
VX LAX-SFO JAN 0.9>7 FEB 0>8 MAR 0>7
VX MCO-SFO JAN 0.1>1.0 FEB 0>1.0 MAR 0>1.0
VX ORD-SFO JAN 0.4>3 FEB 0>4 MAR 0>3
VX SAN-SFO JAN 0.5>4 FEB 0>4 MAR 0>4
VX SEA-SFO JAN 0.5>4 FEB 0>4 MAR 0>4
VX SFO-CUN JAN 0.0>0.4 FEB 0>0.4 MAR 0>0.5
VX SFO-SJD JAN 0.1>1.0 FEB 0>1.0 MAR 0>1.0

W3 QUO-ABV AUG 1.0>0 SEP 1.0>0 OCT 1.0>0
W3 QUO-LOS AUG 1.0>0 SEP 1.0>0 OCT 1.0>0

Strange and uncharacteristically close-in seasonal reduction from WN. Maybe they are learning from FL.
WN MDW-PDX OCT 2>1.4

WP BIL-HVR AUG 0>1.2
WP BIL-LWT AUG 1.7>0.6
WP HVR-LWT AUG 1.7>0.6

Any idea what this is? I assume it is an error or they are withdrawing from public distribution of tickets? ...or maybe they are changing IATA codes?
YV HNL-LNY AUG 2>0 SEP 2>0 OCT 2>0 NOV 2>0 DEC 2>0 JAN 2>0 FEB 3>0 MAR 2>0
YV HNL-MKK AUG 7>0 SEP 7>0 OCT 7>0 NOV 7>0 DEC 7>0 JAN 7>0 FEB 7>0 MAR 7>0
YV KOA-OGG AUG 10>0.0 SEP 10>0 OCT 10>0 NOV 10>0 DEC 10>0 JAN 10>0 FEB 11>0 MAR 10>0
YV LNY-HNL AUG 2>0 SEP 2>0 OCT 2>0 NOV 2>0 DEC 2>0 JAN 2>0 FEB 3>0 MAR 2>0
YV MKK-HNL AUG 7>0 SEP 7>0 OCT 7>0 NOV 7>0 DEC 7>0 JAN 7>0 FEB 7>0 MAR 7>0
YV MKK-OGG AUG 4>0 SEP 4>0 OCT 4>0 NOV 4>0 DEC 4>0 JAN 4>0 FEB 4>0 MAR 4>0
YV OGG-KOA AUG 10>0.0 SEP 10>0 OCT 10>0 NOV 10>0 DEC 10>0 JAN 10>0 FEB 11>0 MAR 10>0
YV OGG-MKK AUG 4>0 SEP 4>0 OCT 4>0 NOV 4>0 DEC 4>0 JAN 4>0 FEB 4>0 MAR 4>0


User currently offlineenilria From Canada, joined Feb 2008, 7138 posts, RR: 13
Reply 2, posted (3 years 1 month 1 week 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 5864 times:

Whoops, these were cut off B6's post...

B6 MCO-PSE FEB 0.5>1.0 MAR 0>1.0
B6 MCO-PWM MAR 0>1.0
B6 MCO-RIC MAR 0>1.0
B6 MCO-SDQ FEB 0.5>1.0 MAR 0>1.0
B6 MCO-SJO FEB 0.5>1.0 MAR 0>1.0
B6 MCO-SJU FEB 3>6 MAR 0>6
B6 MCO-SWF FEB 0.5>1.5 MAR 0>2
B6 MCO-SYR FEB 1.1>3 MAR 0>2
B6 SJU-SDQ FEB 3>5 MAR 0>5
B6 SJU-STT FEB 1.1>3 MAR 0>2
B6 SJU-STX MAR 0>1.0
B6 SJU-SXM FEB 0.5>1.0 MAR 0>1.0
B6 SJU-TPA FEB 1.1>3 MAR 0>2
B6 STT-SJU FEB 1.1>3 MAR 0>2
B6 STX-SJU FEB 0.5>1.0 MAR 0>1.0
#B6 TPA-SJU NOV 2>1.8 FEB 1.1>3 MAR 0>2


User currently offlineyellowtail From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 6125 posts, RR: 2
Reply 3, posted (3 years 1 month 1 week 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 5740 times:

Quoting enilria (Reply 1):
*DL MIA-LHR SEP 1.0>0.9

a blink or a blip?



When in doubt, hold on to your altitude. No-one has ever collided with the sky.
User currently offlinesmoot4208 From United States of America, joined Jan 2010, 1305 posts, RR: 12
Reply 4, posted (3 years 1 month 1 week 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 5655 times:

Quoting enilria (Reply 1):
ny idea what this is? I assume it is an error or they are withdrawing from public distribution of tickets? ...or maybe they are changing IATA codes?
YV HNL-LNY AUG 2>0 SEP 2>0 OCT 2>0 NOV 2>0 DEC 2>0 JAN 2>0 FEB 3>0 MAR 2>0
YV HNL-MKK AUG 7>0 SEP 7>0 OCT 7>0 NOV 7>0 DEC 7>0 JAN 7>0 FEB 7>0 MAR 7>0
YV KOA-OGG AUG 10>0.0 SEP 10>0 OCT 10>0 NOV 10>0 DEC 10>0 JAN 10>0 FEB 11>0 MAR 10>0
YV LNY-HNL AUG 2>0 SEP 2>0 OCT 2>0 NOV 2>0 DEC 2>0 JAN 2>0 FEB 3>0 MAR 2>0
YV MKK-HNL AUG 7>0 SEP 7>0 OCT 7>0 NOV 7>0 DEC 7>0 JAN 7>0 FEB 7>0 MAR 7>0
YV MKK-OGG AUG 4>0 SEP 4>0 OCT 4>0 NOV 4>0 DEC 4>0 JAN 4>0 FEB 4>0 MAR 4>0
YV OGG-KOA AUG 10>0.0 SEP 10>0 OCT 10>0 NOV 10>0 DEC 10>0 JAN 10>0 FEB 11>0 MAR 10>0
YV OGG-MKK AUG 4>0 SEP 4>0 OCT 4>0 NOV 4>0 DEC 4>0 JAN 4>0 FEB 4>0 MAR 4>0

It wouldn't surprise me if they were quitting all of those segments. Their operation in Hawaii is getting owned by Hawaiian Airlines.

Quoting enilria (Reply 1):
Continued cuts in FLL
*NK BOS-FLL NOV 1.6>1.0 DEC 1.9>1.0 JAN 2>1.0 FEB 3>1.0
NK FLL-BQN NOV 0.8>0.5 DEC 0.8>0.6 JAN 1.0>0.6 FEB 1.0>0.6
NK FLL-CTG DEC 0.4>0.5
NK FLL-KIN NOV 0.7>0.4 DEC 0.9>0.4 JAN 1.0>0.5 FEB 1.0>0.4
NK FLL-LAS FEB 0.8>0
NK FLL-LGA NOV 5>4 DEC 5>4 JAN 5>4 FEB 6>5
NK FLL-MBJ NOV 0.7>0.5 DEC 0.9>0.6 JAN 1.0>0.5 FEB 1.0>0.6
NK FLL-MDE DEC 1.0>0.8 JAN 1.0>0.9 FEB 1.0>0.9
NK FLL-NAS NOV 1.6>1.0 DEC 1.9>1.0 JAN 2>1.0 FEB 3>1.0
NK FLL-SJO DEC 1.4>1.6 JAN 1.4>1.6 FEB 1.5>1.6
NK FLL-SJU NOV 3>2 JAN 4>3 FEB 4>3
NK FLL-STI NOV 0.5>0.3 DEC 0.5>0.3 JAN 0.6>0.3 FEB 0.6>0.3

One has to wonder how well their FLL operation is doing when they are moving airplanes to start a hub in LAS


User currently offlineairlineecon From United States of America, joined Feb 2007, 130 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (3 years 1 month 1 week 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 5633 times:

Quoting enilria (Reply 1):
*DL ATL-HDN JAN 0>1.0 FEB 0>1.0 MAR 0>1.0
*DL DTW-HND SEP 1.0>0 OCT 1.0>0 NOV 1.0>0 DEC 1.0>0 JAN 1.0>0 FEB 1.0>0 MAR 1.0>0
*DL HDN-MSP JAN 0>1.0 FEB 0>1.0 MAR 0>1.0

Is this correct or does HDN=HND?


User currently offlinesmoot4208 From United States of America, joined Jan 2010, 1305 posts, RR: 12
Reply 6, posted (3 years 1 month 1 week 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 5623 times:

Quoting airlineecon (Reply 6):
Is this correct or does HDN=HND?

I believe the ATL/MSP-HDN are seasonal flights that operate every year to Hayden/Steamboat Springs. Not Tokyo Haneda


User currently offlineAV8AJET From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 1344 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (3 years 1 month 1 week 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 5622 times:

Quoting airlineecon (Reply 6):

Is this correct or does HDN=HND?

That's what I was wondering, does ATL get another flight to Japan or is this just a seasonal domestic HDN?



"To fly or not to fly there is no question!"
User currently offlineenilria From Canada, joined Feb 2008, 7138 posts, RR: 13
Reply 8, posted (3 years 1 month 1 week 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 5506 times:

Quoting yellowtail (Reply 3):
Quoting enilria (Reply 1):
*DL MIA-LHR SEP 1.0>0.9
a blink or a blip?

It is both IMHO. I guess they aren't worried about the slots for a month.

Quoting smoot4208 (Reply 4):
It wouldn't surprise me if they were quitting all of those segments. Their operation in Hawaii is getting owned by Hawaiian Airlines.

I assume you mean that figuratively, not literally?

Quoting smoot4208 (Reply 4):
One has to wonder how well their FLL operation is doing when they are moving airplanes to start a hub in LAS

I'm sure it isn't doing well. B6 is hurting them.

Quoting airlineecon (Reply 6):
Is this correct or does HDN=HND?

It is correct, but an enormous coincidence of timing. HND was deferred for a year with DOT approval recently.

Quoting smoot4208 (Reply 7):
I believe the ATL/MSP-HDN are seasonal flights that operate every year to Hayden/Steamboat Springs. Not Tokyo Haneda

Yes, the codes are all correct as listed.


User currently offlineenilria From Canada, joined Feb 2008, 7138 posts, RR: 13
Reply 9, posted (3 years 1 month 1 week 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 5480 times:

Quoting enilria (Reply 1):
BW PHL-MBJ AUG 0>1.0 SEP 0>1.0 OCT 0>1.0 NOV 0>1.0 DEC 0>1.0 JAN 0>1.0 FEB 0>1.0 MAR 0>1.0

I should have put an * on that one. It is interesting that it took a few weeks to reappear. I doubt it was simply an oversight. I wonder what the story is on why it disappeared.


User currently offlinesmoot4208 From United States of America, joined Jan 2010, 1305 posts, RR: 12
Reply 10, posted (3 years 1 month 1 week 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 5308 times:

Quoting enilria (Reply 9):
It wouldn't surprise me if they were quitting all of those segments. Their operation in Hawaii is getting owned by Hawaiian Airlines.

I assume you mean that figuratively, not literally?

I mean that literally. That operation is bleeding money. If they draw down all of those routes, (some of those are Cessna Caravans that were operated by Air Mokulele) they would be left with HNL only routes to LIH, KOA, OGG, and ITO. In my opinion those are the only routes that can sustain 2 carriers on.

It this is correct, then it would appear that all the Cessna Caravans would be leaving. The only CRJ route being affected would be OGG-KOA

[Edited 2011-07-20 07:59:06]

User currently offlineenilria From Canada, joined Feb 2008, 7138 posts, RR: 13
Reply 11, posted (3 years 1 month 1 week 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 5251 times:

Quoting smoot4208 (Reply 11):
they would be left with HNL only routes to LIH, KOA, OGG, and ITO. In my opinion those are the only routes that can sustain 2 carriers on.

But by "owned" you don't mean purchased, you just mean "beaten".

Quoting smoot4208 (Reply 11):
It this is correct, then it would appear that all the Cessna Caravans would be leaving. The only CRJ route being affected would be OGG-KOA

Do we have any confirmation of that? That's pretty big if true.


User currently offlineslcdeltarumd11 From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 3444 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (3 years 1 month 1 week 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 5158 times:

Quoting smoot4208 (Reply 7):
I believe the ATL/MSP-HDN are seasonal flights that operate every year to Hayden/Steamboat Springs. Not Tokyo Haneda

It will be interesting to see when Delta loads all the ski destination airports for the winter. In the last few seasons Delta has signiciantly decreased from these seasonal ski airports significantly.


User currently offlinerbgso From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 590 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (3 years 1 month 1 week 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 4930 times:

I would have thought G4 would cut some GSO flying in the seasonal pulldown. I didn't see any, unless I missed it.

User currently offlinenkops From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 2662 posts, RR: 6
Reply 14, posted (3 years 1 month 1 week 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 4852 times:

Quoting enilria (Thread starter):
ACY continued to get hacked to fund ORD/LAS

ACY will be down to 7 daily flights (6 on tues and wed.)... that is the least amount I can remember NK having there for at least 8-10 years... hopimg someone else comes in at some point!!



I have no association with Spirit Airlines
User currently offlineRamblinMan From United States of America, joined Oct 2010, 1138 posts, RR: 1
Reply 15, posted (3 years 1 month 1 week 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 4775 times:

Quoting enilria (Reply 12):
But by "owned" you don't mean purchased, you just mean "beaten".

Is "getting owned" not a common phrase in Canad'jun?  
It means being defeated...and usually implies that it was embarrassing at that.

Frankly I'm surprised as hell they've lasted this long on those Hawaiian ops. 'Bout time somebody ran them out of town, save for the fact that would leave HA as pretty much the only game around.


User currently offlineJosh32121 From United States of America, joined Apr 2008, 369 posts, RR: 1
Reply 16, posted (3 years 1 month 1 week 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 4730 times:

Quoting enilria (Reply 1):
*DL DTW-HND SEP 1.0>0 OCT 1.0>0 NOV 1.0>0 DEC 1.0>0 JAN 1.0>0 FEB 1.0>0 MAR 1.0>0

So is DTW-HND done done? Or were they granted approval to defer operating this route for another several months? I know that had been discussed but wasn't sure it had been finalized.


User currently offlineapodino From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 4263 posts, RR: 6
Reply 17, posted (3 years 1 month 1 week 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 4628 times:

B6 is beefing up frequency on a lot of key US routes out of BOS. If B6 were to ever launch PHL service, US in BOS would really be feeling it.

I don't think its releated, but I mention this because US may be a player in the upcoming gate shuffle being caused by the UA/CO merger.

Has MAG formally announced that Go is "gone"? I haven't heard anything formal, but if its true I hope Johnny O is proud of himself for bankrupting his own airline to put Aloha out of business.


User currently offlineFlyASAGuy2005 From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 7004 posts, RR: 11
Reply 18, posted (3 years 1 month 1 week 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 4585 times:

Quoting Josh32121 (Reply 17):
So is DTW-HND done done? Or were they granted approval to defer operating this route for another several months? I know that had been discussed but wasn't sure it had been finalized.



This has already been approved by the USDOT some time ago to deffer the HND route authorities for up to a year.

The biggest thing for me is Go! IS there any way to find out if the cuts were a mistake/administrative more or will we just have to wait until the next OAG? IMHO, it garners it's own thread as this is a big deal and a sign the Mesa is having its clock cleaned in Hawaii.



What gets measured gets done.
User currently offlineenilria From Canada, joined Feb 2008, 7138 posts, RR: 13
Reply 19, posted (3 years 1 month 1 week 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 4560 times:

Quoting rbgso (Reply 14):
I would have thought G4 would cut some GSO flying in the seasonal pulldown. I didn't see any, unless I missed it.

I don't really follow them as the airports are so unusual I don't even know the IATA codes of the spokes.

Quoting nkops (Reply 15):
ACY will be down to 7 daily flights (6 on tues and wed.)... that is the least amount I can remember NK having there for at least 8-10 years... hopimg someone else comes in at some point!!

If NK couldn't stimulate the market then I'm not sure who can...

Quoting RamblinMan (Reply 16):
Is "getting owned" not a common phrase in Canad'jun?  

OK, what is the difference between "pwned"? and "owned"?

Anyway, I agree that Mesa is a stinking pile of cr@p and me and my brother using a floating golf cart could provide a more reliable Hawaiian passenger service.  
Quoting Josh32121 (Reply 17):
So is DTW-HND done done? Or were they granted approval to defer operating this route for another several months? I know that had been discussed but wasn't sure it had been finalized.

They don't have to resume it until June 2012.

Quoting apodino (Reply 18):
B6 is beefing up frequency on a lot of key US routes out of BOS. If B6 were to ever launch PHL service, US in BOS would really be feeling it.

WN is flying it already. I'm sure that took a bite. I don't expect B6 to enter PHL in the next 24-36 months.


User currently offlineFlyASAGuy2005 From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 7004 posts, RR: 11
Reply 20, posted (3 years 1 month 1 week 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 4536 times:

Quoting enilria (Reply 20):
If NK couldn't stimulate the market then I'm not sure who can...



Ain't that the truth. I was looking at data LAX posted a few days ago. EWR was at the top of the list for most expensive fares in the country with ACY being pretty near the bottom. I'm not sure how much lower the fares can go to attract more pax.



What gets measured gets done.
User currently offlineUA2162 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 495 posts, RR: 2
Reply 21, posted (3 years 1 month 1 week 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 4202 times:

Quoting enilria (Reply 1):
Any idea what this is? I assume it is an error or they are withdrawing from public distribution of tickets? ...or maybe they are changing IATA codes?
YV HNL-LNY AUG 2>0 SEP 2>0 OCT 2>0 NOV 2>0 DEC 2>0 JAN 2>0 FEB 3>0 MAR 2>0
YV HNL-MKK AUG 7>0 SEP 7>0 OCT 7>0 NOV 7>0 DEC 7>0 JAN 7>0 FEB 7>0 MAR 7>0
YV KOA-OGG AUG 10>0.0 SEP 10>0 OCT 10>0 NOV 10>0 DEC 10>0 JAN 10>0 FEB 11>0 MAR 10>0
YV LNY-HNL AUG 2>0 SEP 2>0 OCT 2>0 NOV 2>0 DEC 2>0 JAN 2>0 FEB 3>0 MAR 2>0
YV MKK-HNL AUG 7>0 SEP 7>0 OCT 7>0 NOV 7>0 DEC 7>0 JAN 7>0 FEB 7>0 MAR 7>0
YV MKK-OGG AUG 4>0 SEP 4>0 OCT 4>0 NOV 4>0 DEC 4>0 JAN 4>0 FEB 4>0 MAR 4>0
YV OGG-KOA AUG 10>0.0 SEP 10>0 OCT 10>0 NOV 10>0 DEC 10>0 JAN 10>0 FEB 11>0 MAR 10>0
YV OGG-MKK AUG 4>0 SEP 4>0 OCT 4>0 NOV 4>0 DEC 4>0 JAN 4>0 FEB 4>0 MAR 4>0

These are all the old MW routes that are still being operated by the Caravans. Sadly, I don't think this is a mistake but rather the sunset of what's left of the MW brand.

Sad considering MW was a locally owned airline less than two years ago. Although this is good for WP. They pretty much will have a monopoly on the smaller islands such as MKK.


User currently offlineScottB From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 6751 posts, RR: 32
Reply 22, posted (3 years 1 month 1 week 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 4134 times:

Quoting RamblinMan (Reply 16):
Is "getting owned" not a common phrase in Canad'jun?

It may or may not, but enilria is correct in that the phrase is figurative, not literal.

Quoting FlyASAGuy2005 (Reply 19):
The biggest thing for me is Go! IS there any way to find out if the cuts were a mistake/administrative more or will we just have to wait until the next OAG? IMHO, it garners it's own thread as this is a big deal and a sign the Mesa is having its clock cleaned in Hawaii.

The whole Go! debacle is an even bigger airline FAIL than Skybus; the settlement with Hawaiian nearly bankrupted Mesa. And even with AQ out of the market, it still lost money.

Quoting apodino (Reply 18):
B6 is beefing up frequency on a lot of key US routes out of BOS. If B6 were to ever launch PHL service, US in BOS would really be feeling it.

They have essentially taken over many routes abandoned by US, DL, and AA over the past decade.


User currently offlinepoint2point From United States of America, joined Mar 2010, 2757 posts, RR: 1
Reply 23, posted (3 years 1 month 1 week 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 4104 times:

Quoting enilria (Reply 1):
NK FLL-LAS FEB 0.8>0

Funny airline this NK.....  

Just seems so odd that they can't compete with WN and have even one flight between their two "hubs"? No one from Las Vegas wants to go on a cruise, or anyone from the Miami/Fort Lauderdale ever go gambling? Or the ticket costs aren't low enough? Or even to position planes?

?????


User currently offlinedsuairptman From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 899 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (3 years 1 month 1 week 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 4041 times:

Quoting FlyASAGuy2005 (Reply 19):

Rumor is that the entire Go! operation is headed for that big airport in the sky. The Mokolele redution presented here might be further eveidence of this.



GEAUX SAINTS!
25 Post contains images RamblinMan : Well I'm less familiar with "pwned" but I don't think there is one. Thanks, professor. LMAO. Funny 'cause its true. Only ever used HA interisland, bu
26 Santi319 : Completely untrue, NK will downsize their FLL operation for the upcomming construction of T4, Once Construction is done, you can expect more expansio
27 PacificClipper : *UA DEN-MIA JAN 0>1.0 FEB 0>1.0 MAR 0>1.0 This is the return of a seasonal route, usually runs to May 5th, which frankly should be year-round
28 Post contains links and images enilria : It's hard to go below $9. I saw the other day that NK's average fare systemwide is $77 (excluding fees). They get about $40 in fees. Added together i
29 USXguy : Mokulele Airlines has always made money. The Caravan's continue to mint money. It could be that these flights are going back to the MW code & Rad
30 Post contains images sasd209 : HAHAHA!!!! Thanks much, in addition to the always reliable threads from you, this one REALLY made my day!!!!!!!
31 ScottB : Agreed. Since when has Spirit cared about convenience for its customers??? T4 looks like a refugee camp on its good days. If the FLL operation were p
32 Post contains images enilria : I don't know if it is real or an error, but I do know that for some reason prop flying is not doing well these days. It is counter-intuitive because
33 Post contains images enilria : I don't know if it is real or an error, but I do know that for some reason prop flying is not doing well these days. It is counter-intuitive because
34 USXguy : I worked intimately for the CEO for 3 years until the Republic "buy out" - Indiana wasn't an option for me as I grew up in Illinois and had become ac
35 yellowtail : Caravans are unbeatable on some stage lengths. IMHO I prefer Radixx over Sabre. Cheaper too. KIU systems also has a great setup.
36 USXguy : Radixx had a lot of system limitations and we spent $250k getting our interline e-ticketing completed with Alaska Airlines. It was "too easy" for a lo
37 Post contains images breaker1011 : Enilria, I would buy a ticket on your golf cart just cause you are cool - lemme know when the inaugural is, I'll bring a bottle of Dom.
38 FutureUScapt : Huh? What exactly are they "beefing up?" This is merely an extension of what they are currently flying. There's already one airline running abysmal l
39 Post contains images BD338 : Some serious increases for B6 at LGB or a blip in the data? They already fly these routes so why 0>3 in March for the routes? Still, if we are get
40 point2point : I'd wonder if B6 could make LGB/DEN work where F9 couldn't? Maybe with the flight continuing to/from JFK/BOS?
41 Post contains images enilria : Not surprising. Good inside info. Thank you, me and my golf cart are blushing... LOL. I think B6 was happy to lure WN into flying BOS-PHL. I say that
42 RamblinMan : Well at least they didn't call it "F**k"! Very interesting. Didn't realize they were so generally hated, just thought it was the economics of the CRJ
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