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Texas International Memories?  
User currently offlinejsnww81 From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 2029 posts, RR: 15
Posted (3 years 1 month 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 6959 times:

The recent Deregulation threads and discussion of bygone plane crashes has me thinking quite a bit about an carrier that doesn't get much attention on these boards - namely, Texas International Airlines (which stated out as Trans-Texas Airways and branded itself as TTA for a few years before changing to TI in the late 1960s.)

I've always been somewhat intrigued by Texas International - as a local-service carrier, they flew a lot of routes to smaller cities and towns that were no doubt heavily subsidized (almost all of them were dropped like a sack of potatoes as soon as the ink dried on the Deregulation Act). In the early and mid 1970s they were running DC9s to places like San Angelo, Texarkana, Beaumont, Wichita Falls and Laredo in Texas, Lake Charles and Lafayette in Louisiana, Hot Springs in Arkansas and Roswell and Santa Fe in New Mexico. The Convairs operated to a whole host of small markets like Brownwood, Clovis, Hobbs, Fort Polk, Monroe and even to Tampico and Veracruz for awhile. There were also Beech 99 services in the late 1960s and early 1970s to places like Galveston, Victoria and Lufkin. As a Texas native, I'd love the chance to go back in time and spend a few days flying TI around the state.

I'd love to hear from any of you who flew Texas International in the 1960s and 1970s about what the airline was like. Under Frank Lorenzo in the late 1970s the airline really grew at breakneck speed, to the point where it was flying coast to coast by the time it acquired Continental in 1981. I searched the archives and found a few old threads, but the community has grown to the point where I thought it might be fun to hear some memories again.

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User currently offlineupsmd11 From United States of America, joined May 2003, 814 posts, RR: 4
Reply 1, posted (3 years 1 month 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 6953 times:
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I flew TI back in the 70s when I went to visit my grandparents on vacation. We live in Louisville (SDF) and had to fly into Amarillo (AMA) where they lived. We would usually fly AA to DFW (707 or 727) and then on a DC9 of TI into AMA or on Braniff into AMA.

I can remember picking up a friend of theirs in Clovis, NM as well. She flew into the Air Force base there on a TI DC9 from what I can remember. I do not know where she came from on that trip.

I remember the flag on the plane but little else. Loved the experience though.


User currently offlineridgid727 From United States of America, joined Jul 2008, 1114 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (3 years 1 month 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 6939 times:

As a child I remember flying on TI, and the DC9 was called a "pamperJet"

User currently offlinemacsog6 From Singapore, joined Jan 2010, 530 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (3 years 1 month 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 6879 times:
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When I was in college in the mid-60's, I occasionally flew Trans-Texas from LIT to ELD, almost always on a DC-3. It was a nice flight, seldom crowded, and offered a starving college student a chance to fly for a fairly low rate, about the same as Greyhound was getting.


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User currently offlineModernArt From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (3 years 1 month 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 6867 times:

My first flight was a TI Convair routing San Antonio-Austin-Houston, maybe 1970 or '71.

User currently offlineapjung From United States of America, joined Aug 2002, 116 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (3 years 1 month 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 6816 times:

I flew on TI in August 1978 on the final leg of my first flight from TSA-NRT-LAX-IAH-LFT. I was 6 back then so I don't quite remember all the details but I remember it was a quick 45 minute hop on a DC-9. You would be lucky to see a mainline aircraft at LFT today.

[Edited 2011-07-25 15:54:58]


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User currently offlineAirCalSNA From United States of America, joined Mar 2010, 334 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (3 years 1 month 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 6789 times:

I never flew on TI, but for some reason that airline fascinated me whenever I would make it up to LAX as a kid. Maybe it just sounded exotic to a relatively sheltered kid from Orange County.

User currently offlinedavidlc3 From United States of America, joined Jun 2007, 341 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (3 years 1 month 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 6719 times:

IIRC they were the ones that invented "Peanut Fares." My brother was flying them DFW LBB when in college and I convinced him that on peanut fares he would have to sit in the very last row of the airplane and get no service. Ahh..the good old days

User currently offlinecontrails From United States of America, joined Oct 2000, 1833 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (3 years 1 month 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 6683 times:

I flew TI several times in the late 70's from DFW to HOU and back, until they pulled out of HOU. I also flew them from DFW to BWI and back on one of my most memorable vacations. This would have been about 1980, as I recall. I also flew them a few timres from DFW to TUL and back.

I knew some who called TI "Texas Treetop", and I heard the jokes about changing the name of the airline when a pilot got drunk and landed in Tijuana by mistake, but I never had any problems with them. They got me where I wanted to go at an economical price, and the service I thought was pretty good. I was saddened when they disappeared.



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User currently offlinerw717 From United States of America, joined Sep 2006, 288 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (3 years 1 month 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 6657 times:

My dad worked for Hughes Airwest in LAS in the 70's and they had the ground handling contract for TI. I remember him referring to their planes as the "TI Tennis Shoe". I guess because it resembled a Converse All Star.


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User currently offlinen5014k From United States of America, joined Jun 2007, 114 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (3 years 1 month 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 6632 times:

In the 70's I flew them a lot DFW/IAH to AUS and SAT. I flew them every chance I got after flying BWI-DFW on AA. EA flew BWI-IAH in those days. I tried to fly on the regional airlines every chance I got - I always preferred the little guys to the big guys. If I could take a commuter I did (Rio, Metro, Commutair, Tejas, Davis, Emerald, others). TI always had a sense of fun about them in those days, certainly something AA did not try to cultivate. The flight attendants liked to chat. Flights out of BWI ran about 80% load factor, I'd say. These all were DC-9 flights although I saw lots of Convairs around. I guess I could have flown them to some of the smaller cities if I hadn't taken the commuters (CLL, VCT, CRP, AMA, GLS, BPT). Off topic, but Metro used to run Twin Otters from IAH to Clear Lake City (CLC). That was a fun little flight. The airport was located near the space flight center but it's been plowed under now. I don't believe you can fly commercial to Galveston any more, either.

Anyway, later TI started flying to BWI. I flew them until they became CO. At that time Continental was in trouble and the planes looked like they needed a good cleaning. Then I switched to DL. TI flew the BWI-DFW and BWI-MSY-IAH routes. (Also BWI-BDL but I never flew that flight.) I recall landing in a heavy snowstorm at DFW one night and the pilot tried to take the first available exit off the runway. The captain was going pretty fast and we went into a nasty skid but we stayed on the tarmac.

Flights to AUS and SAT were always over before you knew it, but I understand these were plum routes for TT when they first got them.

I never saw a TI plane in the original gray and blue livery, let alone when they were TT. Pity.

My brother worked his way through college for a company that delivered lost luggage to people out of BWI. The company's owner was married to a high school classmate of mine (we went to the high school just beyond runway 15L). He told me that if it wasn't for TI he would have had trouble staying in business.

I miss TI - not as much as I miss Piedmont but I miss them. OZ, FL, RW, NC and SO too.


User currently offlineTomassjc From United States of America, joined Jan 2010, 867 posts, RR: 2
Reply 11, posted (3 years 1 month 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 6522 times:
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Flew a TI DC-9-30 in June '75 from SLC to DEN. I remember a small hot breakfast was served quickly and the flight continued on to Houston and New Orleans.

When TI started served to ABQ from LAX (early 70s?) I remember an ad on the radio called "Big Deal"

Something like "Texas International is starting new nonstops to Albuquerque". A voice responds: "so, big deal"

Then the first voice "with 3 nonstops every day" Response "Hmm...big deal"

Then something like "with 5 across seating on every flight" Response "Nice...Big Deal"

and then "with fares starting at just XXX Dollars" Response "WOW. now that's a BIG DEAL"

Tom SJC



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User currently offline727LOVER From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 6422 posts, RR: 17
Reply 12, posted (3 years 1 month 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 6508 times:

Hard to believe that little local service carrier would take down one of the Big Four.


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User currently offlineSCCutler From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 5508 posts, RR: 28
Reply 13, posted (3 years 1 month 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 6455 times:

Hard to believe that little Local Service Carrier would someday be the largest US carrier.

Remarkable.



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User currently offlineLoneStarMike From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 3813 posts, RR: 34
Reply 14, posted (3 years 1 month 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 6311 times:

I flew them twice. The first time was October 1, 1979. That was during Peanut Fares and October 1 was the first day of new nonstop service between DFW and STL and 2 other cities (OKC & TUL, I think) The Peanuts fare for DFW-STL was $59.00 each way. There was a big ad in the Sunday paper (09/30/1979) On the first day of service they had a promotion where you could bring in $59.00 worth of coupons like for food at the frocery store, etc and they'd fly you for free on a standby basis. The coupons could be expired, too, TI didn't care.

At my college dorm, McDonald's had just ended a promotion and the front desk had a bunch of expired coupons for buy a Big Mac, get one free. At the time, a Big Mac cost $1.29, so each of those coupons was worth $1.29. Two friends and I took all the coupons that Sunday and drove out to DFW the next day and we got on the flight. We spent the night in STL with another college friend who had transferred out of our college and was coing to school in Columbia. He drove into St. Louis and we all spent the night at his mom's house in La Due - (sp?) It was a ritzy area. We flew back the next morning and on the return flight, I stole a life-jacket from underneath the seat and I had it for years. I know, I was young & stupid back then)

The other time I flew TI was in 1981. Two different friends and I flew from DFW to AUS to visit some friends for the weekend.

Here's an old TI commercial from 1967 when they had just changed their name and went with the Purple & white livery.

link

I found a couple of old ads for Texas International from Texas Monthly MagazineI thought were interesting. You can tell they were really trying to compete with Southwest. Their slogan back in 1974 was "Texas International - "We Know The Territory." One ad emphasized leg-room.

(Note: these ads are on google.books.com. It's a violation of the TOS to link to the actual page in the magazine, so the links below are to the search results page. So you guys will have to click on each of the two links below, which will bring up the google search results page, and then click on the link on google's search results page to go the actual page in the magazine. Then, if you want to view the full page without all that stuff in the sidebar, click on the "full page" icon just to the left of the hyperlink that says "contents." It'll involve two extra clicks, but that's the best I can do.

Texans Need Plenty of Legroom - June, 1974

The legroom ad also emphasized their 3-2 seating, the ability of the middle seat to fold down to creat a table between the aisle and window seats when the middle was unoccupied, and friendly Texas-Style Service.

Another Texas International ad sounds like it may have been a response to WN's We're Not Going To Be Shot Out Of The Sky For A Lousy $13" ads.

The Texas Double - August 1974

The ad explains that you can get 2 miniatures in a 16 oz tumbler for $2.00, rather than one miniature in a regular glass for $1.50.

Half of Texas must have been drunk in the '70's.  

LoneStarMike


User currently offlineBHMNONREV From Australia, joined Aug 2003, 1371 posts, RR: 4
Reply 15, posted (3 years 1 month 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 6271 times:

Quoting LoneStarMike (Reply 14):
I flew them twice. The first time was October 1, 1979. That was during Peanut Fares and October 1 was the first day of new nonstop service between DFW and STL and 2 other cities (OKC & TUL, I think) The Peanuts fare for DFW-STL was $59.00 each way. There was a big ad in the Sunday paper (09/30/1979) On the first day of service they had a promotion where you could bring in $59.00 worth of coupons like for food at the frocery store, etc and they'd fly you for free on a standby basis. The coupons could be expired, too, TI didn't care.

I had my first experience with TI in June 1980, Pop was with TWA and got me a 25% employee ticket to get me to my new duty station in Abilene. Routing was STL-DFW, then connecting to DFW-SJT-ABI all on DC-9-30 aircraft. I remember the Peanuts fares well, it seemd like everyone on the STL-DFW leg was travelling on the fare..lol From what I remember the flight was full.

DFW-SJT-ABI had maybe 20 people and half of them got off in San Angelo. TI didn't fly N/S to ABI, but they operated DFW-SJT-ABI-DFW in a triangle routing. The only other option to get to Abilene was to fly the Metro's of Chaparral, so I chose the jet.

Crew's and ground staff were all top-notch, each and everyone seemed to love their work. They are certainly missed by me..  


User currently offlineIAHFLYR From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 4790 posts, RR: 22
Reply 16, posted (3 years 1 month 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 6200 times:

Quoting SCCutler (Reply 13):
Hard to believe that little Local Service Carrier would someday be the largest US carrier.

Remarkable

It is even more remarkable when you add the late 80's and early 90's to the equation.....putting NY Air, Texas International, Continental, Frontier, and PeoplesExpress into one operation. Talk about a pile of different equipment, livery, and then toss in the commuter ops with the likes of Bar Harbor, Rocky Mountain, and I forget what other operator to end up with what became ExpressJet!!!!!

Now the Local Service Carrier has joined with UA to make the largest carrier with 370 destinations, WOW....I still don't like the entire idea but what will be will be.   



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User currently offlineAVLAirlineFreq From United States of America, joined Jun 2008, 1039 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (3 years 1 month 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 6076 times:

Quoting jsnww81 (Thread starter):
The recent Deregulation threads and discussion of bygone plane crashes has me thinking quite a bit about an carrier that doesn't get much attention on these boards - namely, Texas International Airlines (which stated out as Trans-Texas Airways and branded itself as TTA for a few years before changing to TI in the late 1960s.)

As a young boy growing up in LIT, I remember this Texas International crash vividly. It's hard to believe this sort of commercial aviation accident could occur as recently as 1973, and that it took three days to locate the crash site:

TI flight 655:

http://www.airdisaster.com/reports/ntsb/AAR74-04.pdf

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Texas_International_Airlines_Flight_655


User currently offlineaa61hvy From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 13977 posts, RR: 57
Reply 18, posted (3 years 1 month 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 6023 times:

Quoting jsnww81 (Thread starter):
Victoria and Lufkin

I could only imagine flying out of Lufkin!

I was always fond of their paint schemes.



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User currently offlinesfjeff From El Salvador, joined Dec 2009, 83 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (3 years 1 month 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 5984 times:

My first ever airline trip was on Texas International in 1969, from PBF (Pine Bluff, AR) to ABQ. The first leg was on a Convair 600 from PBF to DAL, with stops at ELD and TYR. I recall not knowing whether the soft drinks were free or not and being rather hesitant about ordering one. The flight was fine and the aircraft very comfortable. The plane had already been repainted from Trans-Texas to Texas International. The second part of the trip was not so good. This flight was a DC9-10, still painted in Tran-Texas livery. It left one hour and twenty minutes late, with no explanation given. To me, it seemed less comfortable than the Convair. We were served pizza rolls as a snack on the way to MAF, from where we continued to SAF. There were a lot of thunderstorms around Santa Fe and we sat and sat on the ground there before finally being deplaned. We were told that the delay was due to weather, but a Frontier Convair 580 came and went while we waited. Finally, after hours of waiting, the flight was cancelled and we were sent the last 60 miles to ABQ in taxis, arriving without our luggage around 2:00 AM (more than five hours late). I had a number of other trips on Texas International and they were always fine. It was a big blow to Pine Bluff when they left, but it's only 45 miles to LIT. I would love to see some pictures of Texas International or Trans-Texas at PBF.


Jeff in San Salvador
User currently onlineABQopsHP From United States of America, joined May 2006, 849 posts, RR: 3
Reply 20, posted (3 years 1 month 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 5966 times:

After we returned from Hawaii (My dad was in the Navy) I grew up in ABQ and CRP. Therefore, TI was our carrier of choice, along with BN depending on where we were going. I have a longtime love for TI and always enjoyed flying on them. The service was friendly, and I recall on the flight that went DAL- IAH-CRP-MFE-VER , the F/A's would change uniforms in IAH from a standard wear, to something with a Mexico theme. It was cool. I have just ordered a TI model from aeroclassics, in the Starstream Blue scheme, that they had just B4 the Lone Star. I worked with lots of old TI people in my early days at CO, and still come across a few now and then. Long live TI.

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User currently offlinejsnww81 From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 2029 posts, RR: 15
Reply 21, posted (3 years 1 month 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 5926 times:

Quoting aa61hvy (Reply 18):
I was always fond of their paint schemes.

I agree. The original 1967 gray-and-purple scheme (which was originally introduced with TTA titles before the name change to Texas International) was nice and the 1971 "Lone Star" livery was really unique. I do find it interesting that they changed their branding so quickly... just a few years after it was introduced.

Based on the July 1970 timetable on Departed Flights ( http://www.departedflights.com/TI070170intro.html ), it looks like the following stations were all-jet:

MAF
AMA
SPS (six daily DC9s! hard to believe today)
LAX
DEN
MTY

Interesting to note that ELP had only a single daily flight - a DC9 to MAF. My 1973 OAG shows that this was later cut down to a Convair 600.

Quoting aa61hvy (Reply 18):
I could only imagine flying out of Lufkin!

Per the timetable linked above, Lufkin was all-Beech 99 station in 1970. They escaped the axe when the Beech 99 was dropped from the fleet in 1972 (Victoria and Galveston weren't so lucky and were dropped) and upgraded to Convairs along with TYR and GGG, which were mixed-type stations.

I'm not sure when Lufkin service ended - I know that Big Spring was cut in 1975. By 1978 (see the route map at http://www.departedflights.com/TI031578.html), service to many more small markets is gone - Brownwood, Waco, Bryan, Alexandria, Hot Springs, Jonesboro, El Dorado, Pine Bluff. It looks like the eastern New Mexico markets were all still hanging on, though.


User currently offlineDCA-ROCguy From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 4499 posts, RR: 33
Reply 22, posted (3 years 1 month 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 5914 times:

Thank you, jsnww81, for posting this topic. It's really interesting to hear people's stories about flying a pre-deregulation local service carrier. I didn't develop any connections in Texas until the past decade, so my 1970's and 1980's were spent mostly flying around my native Mid-Atlantic and Midwest regions. Unfortunately, I never got to see a TI aircraft; I don't think I was ever in a TI-served airport at the time the carrier flew there. I did see BN a number of times, mostly at ORD.

What terminal did TI use at IAH? Last week I was at IAH for the first time, to make a connection, was in B and C. The earliest IAH terminal map at departedflights.com is from 1984 and shows CO in C. Wonder if I used a TI gate? (C33)

I flew USAir in February 1980, a few months after they changed their name from Allegheny, on DTW-ROC. A lot of stuff still said Allegheny. Closest I ever got to flying on a local service carrier with its pre-dereg name.

Jim



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User currently offlineIAHFLYR From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 4790 posts, RR: 22
Reply 23, posted (3 years 1 month 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 5870 times:

Quoting DCA-ROCguy (Reply 22):
What terminal did TI use at IAH? Last week I was at IAH for the first time, to make a connection, was in B and C. The earliest IAH terminal map at departedflights.com is from 1984 and shows CO in C. Wonder if I used a TI gate? (C33)



I know in 1984 when TI and CO became CO, you'd see plenty of TI livery DC9's all over Terminal C at IAH, and yes they used C33 for sure.

Since Terminal C didn't open at IAH until 1981, TI used Terminal A prior to '81, not sure if they moved to Terminal C before 1984 or not.



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User currently offlinejsnww81 From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 2029 posts, RR: 15
Reply 24, posted (3 years 1 month 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 5840 times:

Quoting DCA-ROCguy (Reply 22):
What terminal did TI use at IAH? Last week I was at IAH for the first time, to make a connection, was in B and C. The earliest IAH terminal map at departedflights.com is from 1984 and shows CO in C. Wonder if I used a TI gate? (C33)
Quoting IAHFLYR (Reply 23):
Since Terminal C didn't open at IAH until 1981, TI used Terminal A prior to '81, not sure if they moved to Terminal C before 1984 or not.

TI used Terminal A (the southwest satellite) between IAH's opening in 1969 and 1981. Terminal C was purpose-built for Texas International in 1981 after the carrier quickly outgrew its single flight station at Terminal A, post-Deregulation. The Continental merger came very quickly thereafter, so TI wasn't resident there very long. I do have a picture of TI DC9s on the Terminal C flightline in 1981; I'll have to see if I can dig it up.

Interestingly (and somewhat off-topic) IAH had a pretty nice balance of air service in the 1970s before Deregulation. Unlike DAL, where Braniff and American had large operations, Delta and TI played second fiddle and everyone else brought up the rear with a handful of dailies, things were pretty evenly split at IAH. When the airport opened in 1969, each airline had a terminal satellite with six gates all to itself, with an extra satellite left over for the international carriers.

TI was also pretty large at DFW from 1974 to 1980 and took up a sizeable chunk of Terminal 2E (now Terminal A). Some of the first post-Deregulation additions - Milwaukee, Baltimore, etc. - were also served from DFW, but the airline retrenched to IAH after American and Delta started building up DFW.


25 IAHFLYR : And slightly more off topic if I may, Delta and Eastern had a nice operation at IAH in the early/mid 80's. Delta had a crew base at IAH, but not sure
26 727LOVER : Are you referring to now or mid 80s?
27 Post contains links LoneStarMike : Here's a neat Trans-Texas/Texas International website with some route maps and photos. http://transtexasairways.com/ It's maintained by a former FA. S
28 Post contains images txagkuwait : Trans Texas Airways began service in October, 1947 and they hired my dad as a Station Agent in Brownwood in January, 1948. From there, he moved to Ft
29 type-rated : That line was invented by Lamar Muse, when he was still at WN. Another one was for Muse Air, a no smoking airline: "If you can't go an hour without a
30 type-rated : A Texas International Flight was the first flight to land at IAH when it opened for business in 1969. The 1940 Air Terminal Museum at HOU has a ton of
31 jsnww81 : TxAgKuwait - Thanks a million for the great memories. That's the kind of stuff I was hoping to hear about when I created this thread! It's amazing to
32 txagkuwait : Continental kept some Pioneer routes for a long time - Houston to Austin, Midland/Odessa to Houston come to mind. They started to get rid of some aro
33 type-rated : On each schedule board behind each TI ticket counter they would have "DC-9 JET" listed as the equipment or "Jet Powered" if it was a Convair 600. I lo
34 jsnww81 : Thanks for the perspective. I knew that TI was regarded as somewhat of a "sick man" in the early 1970s before Lorenzo and team came in and shook thin
35 txagkuwait : This is from memory and from about 45-50 yrs ago, I was around 8 yrs old. I'll call my Dad and ask him if he remembers any others. I seem to recall T
36 type-rated : I knew TTA flew down to Merida, Mexico with Convairs in the mid 60s. I've seen photos of their Convairs down there. Since that was before the Dart con
37 sfjeff : I get a little nostalgic for TI when I see the star on the tail of a LAN Perú 767 at SFO.
38 IAHFLYR : CO also did some MD80 maintenance there until they got rid of the MD80 fleet IIRC around 2002 or 2003 time.
39 jgrantco : Thanks jsnww81 for the great post. Back in the '70s the Cajun Ski Club would have a lineup of DC9s at LFT departing for DEN every year during Mardi Gr
40 ModernArt : Wow, TXAg I think you hit it out of the park twice and had very solid double to the gap - to use a baseball analogy to rate your posts on this thread.
41 type-rated : I think the MD80's left the CO fleet later, more like 2004-2005 and they did work on those at HOU as you stated. At one point in time, TI owned the Fr
42 BHMNONREV : You could very well be right sir, I just remember that the few times I used them between DFW-ABI we had the SJT stop in there on the way. The ABI-DFW
43 Post contains links LoneStarMike : Here's another oldie from youtube Trans-Texas Airlines Convair 600, 1967 The first little bit is aerial footage of the TI ramp at Howard County Airpor
44 ThirtyEcho : I first flew them on DC-3s as TTA. I remember some crates of live chickens in the aft baggage hold that squawked bloody murder on takeoff from Tyler,
45 blackearth : I remember in the 60's when Trans Texas flew out of Memphis, not sure of the destinations but most likely Little Rock and Texarkana, perhaps Pine Bluf
46 IAHFLYR : I don't know about the MSY route, but CO did fly an IAH-HOU-EWR route and vice versa for a short period of time, maybe that is your dream!!!! Or it c
47 LoneStarMike : Southwest acquired Muse Air, changed the name to TranStar, and operated it as a separate airline until they shut it down in (I think) August of 1987.
48 type-rated : CO also operated the "Houston Proud Express" from HOU-IAH & return. If you lived in the southern part of town you could take this flight free of c
49 Post contains links LoneStarMike : I was searching for something else, but came across several sources that claim Texas International actually had the first frequent flyer program - not
50 jsnww81 : Awesome video. Looks like TI had a hangar in Big Spring, at least back in 1967, anyhow. Interesting. I didn't realize TI ever ran DC9s through ELD. I
51 ozark1 : During 1968 I flew Texas International Convair 600's from Dallas to Bryan/College Station with a stop in Temple. The flight continued on to Houston. I
52 type-rated : I heard about this incident around 1972 or so from the local FBO at ELD, and a few years ago I confirmed it through a former TI Captain. It really di
53 type-rated : And then there was the DC3 "hostess" that danced up and down the aisle of the DC3 as it bounced through the skies going "Wheeee, Wheee, look at me", f
54 flyawa : My first rotation was a TI DC9-15 N1305T 'City of McAllen' LCH-IAH, 30MAY75. Hooked on Jet-A ever since. 26 years at HP/US.
55 SingaporeBoy : alot has been said about TI's aircraft and where they flew from/to...but what about the inflight service?what was it like.....and what did the FAs wea
56 type-rated : When I was flying TI in the 70's, they had a standard class cabin. No F, just all Y. 2+2 seating on the Convairs and 2+3 on the DC9's. All the F/A's I
57 txagkuwait : When TTa first got the DC9-10s, they had, for a brief period, a F cabin. They would offer F and Y on jet flights and A class on prop flighrs. There we
58 ThirtyEcho : I remember, as a kid, that my favorite seat on a TTA DC-3 was the very front left side window seat. Loud as holy hell on takeoff but I loved every dec
59 type-rated : I like hearing about these operations story, it humanizes the people operating the airline. And there are some doozies that haven't been mentioned yet
60 txagkuwait : For a white Trans Texas operated out of Morgan City, Louisiana. One flight operated MSY-Morgan City-Lafayette-Lake Charles-Beaumont-Houston. A man got
61 DCA-ROCguy : Thank you to all who are posting. I'm really enjoying reading your comments! The local service carriers where I grew up were Mohawk and Allegheny. I a
62 n5014k : Your question reminds me of an experience I had there while waiting to connect. Apparently TI had an issue with baggage handling - in an earlier post
63 n5014k : I bet WN would have hired her.
64 jsnww81 : Such great memories. I would love to see a book on the history of TTa and TI. "Airliners" magazine did a great story on the early days of TTa a few ye
65 Post contains links sfjeff : I used to collect TI timetables and study them very carefully, and I don't recall ever seeing a DC9 scheduled into ELD. Must have overlooked it. Does
66 type-rated : I believe TI had the DC9 MEM-ELD-TXK-DAL at the time. As I said earlier, this would have been sometime in 1969. When regional airlines got their first
67 jsnww81 : Very true... I remember when I first got an early-1970s Texas International timetable, I was really surprised to see DC9s on the Dallas-Texarkana-Hot
68 Post contains links and images scbriml : Texas International operated the very first DC-9 ever built! View Large View MediumPhoto © Steve Brimley
69 727tiger : Summer of 1971, I flew with my dad MKC-DAL-ABI and back a week later. The DAL-ABI-DAL legs were on TI Convairs. Noisy beasts but great workhorses at t
70 jsnww81 : I'd love to fly on a Convair today. At one point the late 1960s/early 1970s, they really were the workhorse of the regional airlines' fleets, along w
71 type-rated : The Convair was a well designed aircraft from the beginning. Just about every airline in the US flew them at one time or another. But when they turbo
72 n9801f : They were a nice, fun airline. When they started new routes, they would sometimes have crazy giveaways, e.g. the first 100 people to show up at the ti
73 blackearth : Wow, that's a funny story if a bit alarming. Hard to believe now isn't it--back in the day there were Jonesboro AR-Memphis flights. Couldn't be much
74 sfjeff : There still are flights JBR-MEM-JBR, on SeaPort Airlines. You're right--it isn't far, but they schedule 30 minutes.
75 type-rated : The a.net gremlins are at it again. The quote in reply 73 should have been txagkuwait instead of me!
76 AR385 : I´m surprised nobody has mentioned much about their international service. In the early 80´s my family and I used to go frequently to REX from MEX
77 mfe777 : Was part of the flight REX-MFE? That would be one short flight!!! This all sounds amazing, hopefully we can see service between MFE and MEX again in
78 milesrich : And remember, that little local service carrier, Trans Texas was referred to rather derisively as Tree Top Airlines. And now they are the largest air
79 Post contains images AR385 : No. It was MEX-MFE. No stop at REX. We disembarked at MFE, went through what is now ICE I guess, and would drive over to REX. At that time, MX had a
80 milesrich : I flew in a number of FH-227's but Ozark had the largest fleet with 21 of the only 78 built. There were 127 F-27's built by Fairchild in Hagerstown,
81 type-rated : TTA had their gates (4 or 5 of them) close in on the B concourse and Eastern had the gates at the far end of the concourse at HOU. From the photos I'v
82 jsnww81 : Thanks for the confirmation. I've looked at a few pictures in the database and that was my suspicion as well. It looks like Continental and National
83 type-rated : And BN in 1975 has a 727 non-stop HOU-ORD. I knew, I flew on it once. The ticketing area for WN & BN was on the ground floor right around where th
84 jsnww81 : That's what I thought. I believe that area was the international arrivals hall before IAH opened in 1969. HOU had a handful of overseas flights from
85 type-rated : I've seen crew photos of a TI Convair at Merida before. I would like to think it was before the DC9's came along. Merida was served years before Canc
86 mauiman31 : One very fond memory. . . gosh, it must have been 78-79' TI started a short-lived service to MCI. As a promotional stunt they offered a $1 fare to Dal
87 Post contains images jsnww81 : The Nuts About Southwest blog posted several great circa-1971 shots of the lower-level Hobby ticketing area earlier this year. I've pasted them here,
88 type-rated : That place in the photos looked a lot better than the place I was in! The WN counter was facing E-W and the BN counter N-S. And the door to the ramp w
89 727tiger : In the Summer of 1979, TI flew DFW-MCI.
90 jsnww81 : Yep, TI moved to DFW with the other carriers in January 1974. They were the primary tenant in what was then Terminal 2E (now Terminal A) with about n
91 klwright69 : I want to thank all of you for sharing... My father started his career with TI in 1964, and retired with CO in 2000. He flew the Convair and DC-9's. (
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