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Tel Aviv New Airport Name And Location?  
User currently onlinenitepilot79 From Turkey, joined May 2008, 309 posts, RR: 0
Posted (3 years 5 months 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 3740 times:

Any ideas as to what the new airport might be called? Will Ben Guirion Int'l act as a secondary local flight hub? Will it be gradually closed down? I realize this thread probably lends itself toward speculation, sorry. One last thing: considering the topography of the Tel Aviv area, where would the new airport go? Seems there are a lot of mountains in the area?


En Buyuk Turkiye, Baska Buyuk Yok!
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User currently offline4xear From Israel, joined Jul 2010, 24 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (3 years 5 months 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 3709 times:

You are probably referring to the new airport to be built in Eilat, and there is a thread to that effect active right now. Ben Gurion will still be the major international airport, with Eilat becoming the secondary one. At the moment, should Ben Gurion be closed, due to weather, planes had landed in Amman, Cairo and Cyprus as alternatives. In three years, the alternative will be Eilat. Sde Dov airport in northern Tel Aviv will remain open for internal flights too, although it is officially a military airport. Landing at SDV is always fun when coming in from the south, as you pass by central Tel Aviv and the beaches.

4xear


User currently onlinenitepilot79 From Turkey, joined May 2008, 309 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (3 years 5 months 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 3673 times:

[quote=4xear,reply=1]You are probably referring to the new airport to be built in Eilat, and there is a thread to that effect active right now. Ben Gurion will still be the major international airport, with Eilat becoming the secondary one. At the moment, should Ben Gurion be closed, due to weather, planes had landed in Amman, Cairo and Cyprus as alternatives. In three years, the alternative will be Eilat. Sde Dov airport in northern Tel Aviv will remain open for internal flights too, although it is officially a military airport. Landing at SDV is always fun when coming in from the south, as you pass by central Tel Aviv and the beaches.

Wish I was there!
  



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User currently offlinedaviation From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (3 years 5 months 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 3217 times:

I once flew from Eilat to SDV on an ATR-42. It was so much fun. My son and I were laughing because several passsengers were beside themselves with fear - the small plane, the twists and turns - some of them screamed on this beautiful approach!

User currently offlineflybaby From United States of America, joined Apr 2006, 92 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (3 years 4 months 4 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 2898 times:

There are no plans to close down TLV. Years ago, as part of the never-ending discussions of moving SDV (the other airport in the Tel Aviv area) there was talk of moving it and TLV together to an artificial island but the cost is great. Actually the Tel Aviv area is pretty flat but moving TLV to somewhere else in the region (except say offshore) is impossible because the area is pretty densely populated and even if you found a tract of land big enough, the nearby citizens would surely object because of noise. So TLV will stay where it is for the foreseeable future and with all the fights surrounding SDV's move, it probably will stay where it is for a while too. Also, currently there is massive work being done on TLV's runways which will greatly increase its capacity in a couple of years.

TLV should hit about 13 million passengers this year.


User currently offlinekl911 From Czech Republic, joined Jul 2003, 5305 posts, RR: 16
Reply 5, posted (3 years 4 months 4 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 2855 times:

Quoting flybaby (Reply 4):
Also, currently there is massive work being done on TLV's runways which will greatly increase its capacity in a couple of years.

Do you mean adding a new runway? I cant see how else you can add capacity.


User currently offlinebjorn14 From Norway, joined Feb 2010, 3695 posts, RR: 2
Reply 6, posted (3 years 4 months 4 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 2814 times:

And hopefully the Israelis will get their act together at HFA and make it Israel's 3rd international airport.


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User currently offlinebjorn14 From Norway, joined Feb 2010, 3695 posts, RR: 2
Reply 7, posted (3 years 4 months 4 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 2785 times:

Quoting nitepilot79 (Thread starter):
Any ideas as to what the new airport might be called?

The airport will be named for the late Ilan and Asaf Ramon and will replace the Eilat airport. Not sure who these folks are.



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User currently offlineKHPN From United States of America, joined Sep 2010, 158 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (3 years 4 months 4 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 2697 times:

Quoting bjorn14 (Reply 7):
The airport will be named for the late Ilan and Asaf Ramon and will replace the Eilat airport. Not sure who these folks are.

Ilan Ramon was the first Israeli in space. He was a member of the crew of STS-107, which you may remember was the mission where the shuttle Columbia broke up during re-entry, he was also an f-16 pilot for the Israeli Air Force.

Asaf Ramon was Ilan's son, an f-16 pilot as well who died when his plane crashed during a training exercise.


User currently offlineflybaby From United States of America, joined Apr 2006, 92 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (3 years 4 months 4 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 2461 times:

Quoting kl911 (Reply 5):
Do you mean adding a new runway? I cant see how else you can add capacity.

Yes, essentially that's what they're doing. They are extending the long-unused short runway 3/21 to 2800m, which will be used mainly for landings. Not only will that add a new runway but it will also allow the airport to operate in an "open V" configuration, finally making simultaneous take offs and landing possible during most of the day. This will vastly increase the airport's capacity.

In Eilat, the idea is to build a new airport several kilometers north of the city. It will combine operations at ETH which is located right in Eilat and can only handle props and partially-fueled narrowbodies together with operations at VDA which is a civilian terminal located inside a military base that can handle large widebodies but is located very far from the city. Together these two airports handle about 1.5 million passengers per annum nowadays. The new airport is currently in the design phase, whether actual construction will take place in a few years is yet to be seen.


User currently offlinejmc1975 From Israel, joined Sep 2000, 3315 posts, RR: 15
Reply 10, posted (3 years 4 months 4 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 2202 times:

Back in the 70s & 80s, sizable investment was made into the infrastructure of Atarot Airport (JRS), which is near Jerusalem. However, due to its geographic location, it is vulnerable to terrorist attacks from the Palestinian Territories and has been discontinued for civilian use for the past decade. The more prosperous and secure Ben Gurion Airport stands to be the premier international airport of Israel from this point forward.


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User currently offline4xear From Israel, joined Jul 2010, 24 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (3 years 4 months 3 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 1774 times:

Regarding the upgrade of the airport, RWY 08/26 is the sole runway in operation at the moment as RWY 12/30 is undergoing renovations. Extension of RWY 03/21 will need to be done after some major construction ha been done. The longer term plan is to add two more concourses to terminal 3, closing down the old terminal 1. Domestic flights would depart from that addition. There are simply too many buildings near the threshold of RWY 03/21.

4xear


User currently offlinemilesrich From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 2012 posts, RR: 6
Reply 12, posted (3 years 4 months 3 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 1736 times:

Quoting jmc1975 (Reply 10):
Back in the 70s & 80s, sizable investment was made into the infrastructure of Atarot Airport (JRS), which is near Jerusalem. However, due to its geographic location, it is vulnerable to terrorist attacks from the Palestinian Territories and has been discontinued for civilian use for the past decade. The more prosperous and secure Ben Gurion Airport stands to be the premier international airport of Israel from this point forward.

JRS is on the "Palestinian" side of the Green Line. I flew out of their a few times in the early and mid-80's, both on IDF C-130's and on Arkia DH-7's (I was hoping to get one last ride on a Viscount). The terminal building appeared to have been built by the British during the 40's. At one time, I believe Pan Am served JRS when it was under Jordanian control prior to the Six Day War.


User currently offlinekoruman From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (3 years 4 months 3 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 1669 times:

Quoting milesrich (Reply 12):
JRS is on the "Palestinian" side of the Green Line

The irony of the situation is that Atarot Airport (JRS - you can work out what that stands for) is constructed on a former Jewish town in Palestine, which the international community recognises as Palestinian even though the Jewish inhabitants were forcibly removed in 1948.

Ben Gurion is constructed on a former Arab town in Israel, which the international community recognises as Israeli even though the Arab inhabitants were forcibly removed in 1948.

You couldn't make this stuff up. And it is absolutely central to the future viability of both airports, especially as Atarot has now been closed for a decade. Because neither side in the conflict can afford to invest heavily in infrastructure which it may not be able to retain. In the case of Atarot, it could have become a major international airport in the 1970s but governments the world over told their flag carriers that they were not to use it.


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