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More Detailed Plans Of OSL Expansion Revealed  
User currently offlineSKAirbus From Norway, joined Oct 2007, 1701 posts, RR: 1
Posted (3 years 3 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 2283 times:

It was reported in the Stavanger Aftenbladet today that more detailed plans of the OSL expansion have been revealed. ¨

Link: http://www.aftenbladet.no/innenriks/...k-blir-nye-Gardermoen-2839869.html (In Norwegian)

Essentially a more accurate picture has been released showing what will be happening and where. According to Information Manager, Jo Kobro 9 of the most central gates at the terminal will be shut during the building period and as such there will be more use of busses to and from the aircraft.

However, a new temporary pier (Pier South) will be build next to the Domestic pier as a sort of "relief pier" (see point 7 on the illustration) during the construction and will be knocked down after the new Terminal 2 and Pier North are finished in 2017. This will allow direct access to aircraft without the need for a bus. I imagine this will be with stair access to aircraft as I doubt they will install airbridges here.

Anyway, here is a picture of what it will all look like:



Looks pretty cool to me!!


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User currently offlinebrissedk From Denmark, joined Nov 2007, 383 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (3 years 3 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 2135 times:

Much needed expansion.

And with this new terminal they can correct some of the errors (in my opinion) that they have in the old terminals:

1) Make the terminal broader, so it doesn't have that cramped feeling which the current one has.
2) Restrooms. The current ones a terrible.
3) Connections - this is in general. Connecting at OSL could (and should) be made easier. Today it is a huge trek and bother both when making an International/International and International/Domestic connection.

But I'm sure that the folks at OSL has some nice things up their sleeve with this new structure.

Cheers,
BJ



Frequent flyer based in CPH - mostly heading to: OSL, HEL, KEF, FAE and EWR
User currently offlineSKAirbus From Norway, joined Oct 2007, 1701 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (3 years 3 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 2104 times:

Quoting brissedk (Reply 1):
3) Connections - this is in general. Connecting at OSL could (and should) be made easier. Today it is a huge trek and bother both when making an International/International and International/Domestic connection.

Unfortunately when connecting from an international to a domestic flight it is the law that states you have to collect your luggage, clear customs and recheck your baggage... even if it is tagged through the the final destination.

However, it has always been easy to connect from a domestic to an international flight at OSL. You arrive at the upper level and follow the signs to connections, walk down the stairs (first go through security if necessary) and head to the boarding card control near duty free.

But yes, lots of improvements needed. I've never felt cramped at OSL though... In fact I think it is very spacious. CPH is/was very cramped when I lived in Denmark... So much space taken up by shops and always so busy. Hopefully they will start a huge expansion and create the much needed Terminal 4.



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User currently offlineSomeone83 From Norway, joined Sep 2006, 3365 posts, RR: 3
Reply 3, posted (3 years 3 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 1874 times:

And most likely, the capacity after the expansion most likely will be reached when it opens.......

User currently offlineSukhoi From Sweden, joined May 2006, 373 posts, RR: 8
Reply 4, posted (3 years 3 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 1846 times:

Quoting Someone83 (Reply 3):
And most likely, the capacity after the expansion most likely will be reached when it opens

I counted and it´s 11 new gates but how many will disapear? Why not keep the new temporary pier (Pier South) after the new extansion is open? You never now how much traffic it will be by then. Regarding the connecting part in OSL I have done International-Domestic-International. I had 1 1/2 hours both ways and had plenty of extra times for smoking, drinking and shopping!   No problems at all , a very efficient airport!


User currently offlineMortyman From Norway, joined Aug 2006, 3874 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (3 years 3 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 1814 times:

When this expansion is over, it is very possible that they will continue to expand even more. They have talked about expanding to withstand 35 million annual passengers. A third runway is also considered for the longer future.

User currently offlineshamrock604 From Ireland, joined Sep 2007, 4166 posts, RR: 13
Reply 6, posted (3 years 3 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 1718 times:

Oh No!! A temporary Pier!

Oslo is "doing a Dublin" with that!

We got a temporary pier here too, and it was still there 6 years later, only being finally closed last month!

Reason was that after the first expansion was complete, it became clear that they needed even more, and so built a new terminal.

I suspect the same will happen at Oslo. I think they need to think a bit bigger as the New North Pier does not really seem to add an awful lot of extra gates.

That said, the design is really nice from that photo.



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User currently offlinebrissedk From Denmark, joined Nov 2007, 383 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (3 years 3 weeks 5 days ago) and read 1485 times:

Quoting SKAirbus (Reply 2):
But yes, lots of improvements needed. I've never felt cramped at OSL though... In fact I think it is very spacious. CPH is/was very cramped when I lived in Denmark... So much space taken up by shops and always so busy. Hopefully they will start a huge expansion and create the much needed Terminal 4.

For me, the big difference between CPH and OSL is, that at CPH you have the shops in the terminal (where it can be quite crowded), and you have the waiting/boarding area in the piers/fingers where there is seating etc. At OSL the shopping area is more limited, but you have restaurants, people queing, walking and standing all around. Only way to escape this is by being in the lounge (which I do). Unfortunatelly the lounge is only available when flying internationally (is that also due to some regulation?).

I haven't heard anything about a Terminal 4, but Terminal A is gaining more and more ground. Will be interesting to see what happens there.

Cheers,
BJ



Frequent flyer based in CPH - mostly heading to: OSL, HEL, KEF, FAE and EWR
User currently offlineSASDC8 From Norway, joined Mar 2006, 755 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (3 years 3 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 1415 times:
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I really think OSL and Avinor has dropped the ball again on this one! It is IMHO the worst of proposed designs, and I fear that it will not solve OSLs problems at all, and might even make them worse...

Quoting brissedk (Reply 1):
Make the terminal broader, so it doesn't have that cramped feeling which the current one has.


Our excellent government at the time wanted to save a few hundred million and mad today's terminal 4 meters narrower then the original plan was. Comes back to haunt us now...

Quoting Someone83 (Reply 3):
And most likely, the capacity after the expansion most likely will be reached when it opens.......


  

Quoting Sukhoi (Reply 4):
I counted and it´s 11 new gates but how many will disapear?


As far as I understand OSL will loose 9 gates with bridges to gain 11... It really does not make sense to anyone except the stingy top dogs at OSL and in Avinor...

Quoting SKAirbus (Reply 2):
Unfortunately when connecting from an international to a domestic flight it is the law that states you have to collect your luggage, clear customs and recheck your baggage... even if it is tagged through the the final destination.


This is one of my major grapes with today's OSL. Today's solution is dreadful to say the least when connecting from an international flight to a domestic flight, sometimes no even 75 minutes is enough to make the connection i relative comfort. This problem has not been addressed in new design AFAIK, but public and political pressure might prevail here!

On a more positive side: New OSL will gain 12 more security checks point, to speed up the waiting times. There will also be more gates capable of handling WB aircraft with dual bridges and larger boarding areas inside the terminal.



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User currently offlineSKAirbus From Norway, joined Oct 2007, 1701 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (3 years 3 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 1379 times:

The thing about the pier design is that it can be expanded northwards if necessary and the terminal area expanded by eastwards and westwards.

Personally, I don't understand why they didn't go for the satellite terminal design.. i.e. expand the main terminal with new check in desks and security points and then instead of the pier build a satellite with an underground transit system and many more gates.

I reckon the design might be expanded during construction with an expansion of pier...



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User currently offlineSASDC8 From Norway, joined Mar 2006, 755 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (3 years 3 weeks 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 1329 times:
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Quoting SKAirbus (Reply 9):
Personally, I don't understand why they didn't go for the satellite terminal design.. i.e. expand the main terminal with new check in desks and security points and then instead of the pier build a satellite with an underground transit system and many more gates.

Totally agree with you! The best solution in my opinion would be a satellite terminal like they have in ZRH and KUL.



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User currently offlineSomeone83 From Norway, joined Sep 2006, 3365 posts, RR: 3
Reply 11, posted (3 years 3 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 1298 times:

Quoting SASDC8 (Reply 8):
On a more positive side: New OSL will gain 12 more security checks point, to speed up the waiting times. There will also be more gates capable of handling WB aircraft with dual bridges and larger boarding areas inside the terminal.

Although I not necessary disagree with you, but remember, a gate is not a gate, and the flexibility with these new gate means they can be used more efficiently....although they should build more at once

However, one of OSL strong points today is short waiting time in security. Travel domestic about once a week from OSL (thus no access to fast track) and the wait is usually 3-5 minutes

Quoting SKAirbus (Reply 9):
The thing about the pier design is that it can be expanded northwards if necessary and the terminal area expanded by eastwards and westwards.

Correct, however they should not wait with this expansion and do it now

Quoting SKAirbus (Reply 9):
Personally, I don't understand why they didn't go for the satellite terminal design.. i.e. expand
the main terminal with new check in desks and security points and then instead of the pier build a satellite with an
underground transit system and many more gates.

The users ( such as the airlines, handling, etc) don't want a separate satelite as they then would need double up of many services, and hence it will increase their costs


User currently offlineIndianicWorld From Australia, joined Jun 2001, 2946 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (3 years 3 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 1267 times:

Design looks good, but I also fear it will be too little by the time it is finished.

It's far too common these days. BER is a great example of that too, and MEL T2 is another that falls into that category. Building close to demand, without room for substantial growth that may occur in that time, seems to be spreading as a concept. It's a pity.


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