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Spirit Post Q2 Profit - $26.8mil.  
User currently offlineLAXintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 25166 posts, RR: 48
Posted (3 years 1 month 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 3811 times:

First quarter as a public company following its IPO.

Story;
http://www.sun-sentinel.com/business...t-earnings-20110729,0,710638.story

More details after earnings call.


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User currently offlineFlighty From United States of America, joined Apr 2007, 8491 posts, RR: 2
Reply 1, posted (3 years 1 month 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 3794 times:

Wow, near 10 percent margin? Spirit is going strong.

User currently onlineMaverickM11 From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 17444 posts, RR: 46
Reply 2, posted (3 years 1 month 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 3482 times:

Turns out nickel and diming works pretty well . Although I wonder which business model contributed most to their bottom line--the FLL hub, the FLL to po-dunk-Allegiant style flying, or the LASLAX/ORD expansion....


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User currently offlineLAXintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 25166 posts, RR: 48
Reply 3, posted (3 years 1 month 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 3484 times:

Indeed excellent performance.


Here are notes from the airlines first earnings call.


FINANCIAL
o Income $26.8mil in Q2.
o Operating margin was 14.8%
o Ultra low non-fuel CASM for US industry - about 5.4cents – down almost 10% yoy. – major cost advantage when head to head with others in markets.
o Fuel price up 41.9% yoy
o RASM – 11.37 cents
o Earning $43/pax in non-ticket revenue
o 46% of Q3 fuel hedged
o $3.5mil hedge loss in Q2
o Nominal CapEx of about $50mil in 2011 of which $40m is aircraft
o Carrier has NO debt on balance sheet!
o Working with credit card processors to reduce hold back from 100% to zero. Already have agreement in place with one during quarter.
o Strong balance sheet with $346.9 cash end of Qtr – which ~250 is free.


TRAFFIC / NETWORK
o Q2 ASM grew 27.5%. Plan 11.% growth In Q3 and about 5% in Q4.
o LF 85.9%
o Expect all newly launched routes to perform well. Some launched in Q2 profitable within first month of operation already, matter of fact two June launches were the best out of gate performance in company history.
o New markets such as Dallas responding very well to Spirit model
o As more domestic flying, stage length decreasing slightly.
o Seeing booking surge since Federal Tax expiry July 23rd. Tax savings being passed onto consumers. Tax money is the consumers and not airlines to pocket as others.
o Expect good financial results from all airplanes deployed
o Disciplined capacity management process – utilize day of week, gauge, frequency scheduling to adjust
o Not shy to trim routes that do not meet or exceed financial targets.
o Does not follow traditional yield management principles – Spirit will sell the lowest fare until day of departure. Fare buckets are not rigid like others.
o Demand ahead of capacity deployment. Often playing catch up in markets.
o Would consider “deeper South America” if opportunities arise
o Considering charters to Cuba from FLL now that direct flights from the airport are approved.
o Lots of viable new markets out there. Airline stimulating demand with low fare model
o Due leisure nature average customer flies less than 2x year. Not traditional repeat customers like legacy carriers.
o Estimate about 20% of flyers are business customers. Spirit not chasing business customers, but small business owners obviously see good value of product.


FLEET
o 35 aircraft at end of quarter.
o Overtime transition to larger 178 seat A320 fleet. Have 2 A320s due in Q4 and 7 in 2012. Plans for 11 more in 2013-2014, plus hold option 13 more A32x
o Added maintenance cost is coming as fleet ages and heavier maintenance events for engine and airframes occur starting in late Q3. Much of maintenance charges however are prefunded.


OTHER
o Do not view fees as punitive. Quite the contrary allows passengers to save on what they don’t wish to utilize.
o In November will institute option for customers to save $5 by checking in online and printing boarding passes, or utilizing airport kiosk. Seeing an agent is a cost for the airline, and why should all customers have to subsidize such services used by only a subset of flyers? Win-win for airline and customer.
o 2/3 of bookings online.
o More ancillary revenue initiatives in the pipeline.
o Oppose recent DOT customer rule changes as they limit choice for consumers and ultimately push cost up. Court case pending.
o 15-20% year annually growth next few years quite reasonable. Carrier tends to build new demand with low fares and not moving market share from others. Seeing market stimulation of 30-40%+ seen in many markets.
o 2/3 of revenue today is from ticket revenue, and 1/3 as ancillary. Would like to actually flip the two. Also would like a way to transparently pass fuel cost directly to consumer.

=

[Edited 2011-07-28 11:41:59]


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User currently offlinekcrwflyer From United States of America, joined May 2004, 3814 posts, RR: 7
Reply 4, posted (3 years 1 month 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 3424 times:

Quoting MaverickM11 (Reply 2):
Turns out nickel and diming works pretty well . Although I wonder which business model contributed most to their bottom line--the FLL hub, the FLL to po-dunk-Allegiant style flying, or the LASLAX/ORD expansion....

1. Be careful with the term Po-dunk. LBE is Pittsburgh to them, IAG is buffalo, PBG is Montreal area, and if I showed you a photo of CRW you might even consider us a city too.


Obviously there are more seats tied up in the LAS, ORD and DFW expansions. I can't speak on whether those flights are more profitable than the less than daily routes from MYR or FLL.


User currently offlinelucky777 From United States of America, joined Oct 2008, 552 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (3 years 1 month 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 3406 times:

178 seats on an A320??? How horrific! You couldn't pay me to fly in that deathtrap!!! Spirit clearly is going after the Greyhound crowd i see. Those people are just happy to have a pot to piss in and a window to throw it out of if you know what i mean, so i'm sure they're already used to less-than-ideal conditions when travelling on those once-in-a-lifetime family reunion trips to go see uncle Queeofus in Bentonville, Arkansas LOL!!!

With so many much more appealing flying experiences to be had for virtually the same price, why would anyone willing to be such a glutton for punishment to permit themselves to fly on Spirit? I think i'd rather hop on my 18hp Briggs&Stratton and head over to grandma's via riding lawnmower before i ever stepped foot on a plane that had SPIRIT on the side of it.


User currently offlineScottB From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 6751 posts, RR: 32
Reply 6, posted (3 years 1 month 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 3319 times:

Quoting LAXintl (Reply 3):
two June launches were the best out of gate performance in company history.

As far as I know, the "June launches" would refer to FLL-TLC and FLL-SAL, and that these routes would do very well is not shocking.

Quoting MaverickM11 (Reply 2):
or the LASLAX/ORD expansion

The LAS expansion really hasn't gotten underway aside from LAS-DFW, so it's probably not that yet.

Quoting LAXintl (Reply 3):
Do not view fees as punitive. Quite the contrary allows passengers to save on what they don’t wish to utilize.

Except there's no way to take anything larger than a backpack with you without a fee.

Quoting LAXintl (Reply 3):
In November will institute option for customers to save $5 by checking in online and printing boarding passes, or utilizing airport kiosk.

They will also charge for using the kiosk...


User currently onlineMaverickM11 From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 17444 posts, RR: 46
Reply 7, posted (3 years 1 month 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 3286 times:

Quoting kcrwflyer (Reply 4):
Be careful with the term Po-dunk. LBE is Pittsburgh to them, IAG is buffalo, PBG is Montreal area, and if I showed you a photo of CRW you might even consider us a city too.

I think PIT/BUF, even YUL are already over stimulated as it is--note WN's pulldown in PIT. I think in LBE/IAG NK is actually going after locals, not drive traffic. In PBG perhaps there's some drive traffic avoiding transborder fees/taxes, but in CRW it's purely local. All in all it's more G4-style flying than a "new WN effect" at secondary-secondary airports.



E pur si muove -Galileo
User currently offlineLAXintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 25166 posts, RR: 48
Reply 8, posted (3 years 1 month 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 3195 times:

Quoting lucky777 (Reply 5):
178 seats on an A320??? How horrific!

Actually model can be configured up to 180+, and operated so charter carriers and other LCCs. (easyJet for example is 183)

Quoting lucky777 (Reply 5):
With so many much more appealing flying experiences to be had for virtually the same price, why would anyone willing to be such a glutton for punishment to permit themselves to fly on Spirit?

Obviously there are millions willing to seek out Spirit product.

And no its not the same price virtually. Spirit pulls in only a bit above 50% of the average total revenue per passengers than a more traditional carrier do on same routes. Ultimately it does save money for large portion of its client base.

I know folks on the East Coast that regularly travel on Spirit for their $9 fares, often with zero additional fees as they have merely a small carry-on with them. Even checking a single bag is as low as $18 if purchased online.

At the end of the day, Spirit like peers in Europe and Asia fill a viable market niche.


Quoting ScottB (Reply 6):
As far as I know, the "June launches" would refer to FLL-TLC and FLL-SAL, and that these routes would do very well is not shocking.

They declined to provide added color, however I'm not sure of the comment was about June specifically as a month, or the June quarter route launches.

The quarters new stuff was following per their earnings release:

Chicago and Los Angeles
Fort Lauderdale and San Salvador, El Salvador
Fort Lauderdale and Mexico City/Toluca, Mexico
Fort Lauderdale and Dallas/Fort Worth
Las Vegas and Los Angeles
Las Vegas and Dallas/Fort Worth
Myrtle Beach and Washington, DC (seasonal)
Myrtle Beach and Toronto, Canada/Niagara Falls, New York (seasonal)
Myrtle Beach and Pittsburgh/Latrobe (seasonal)
Myrtle Beach and Montreal, Canada/Plattsburgh, New York (seasonal)
Myrtle Beach and Charleston, West Virginia (seasonal)



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User currently offlinelucky777 From United States of America, joined Oct 2008, 552 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (3 years 1 month 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 3158 times:

Quoting LAXintl (Reply 8):
know folks on the East Coast that regularly travel on Spirit for their $9 fares

Oh come on man....you act as if half the plane is $9 fares and they're easy to come by. Everybody and their brother knows the $9 fare is a total gimmick. I think my chances of hitting the Powerball and being struck by lightning in the same day are better than snatching one of those $9 fares.

Quoting LAXintl (Reply 8):
Actually model can be configured up to 180+,

Sure, and my Honda Accord can fit 8 adults if we are all double-jointed and have the dexterity of a chinese gymnast...fact of the matter is 178 in an A320 is downright atrocious. All the airlines i looked up averaged 145-150...Delta, United, US Airways, jetBlue...so let's not try to act as if cramming 178 seats into an A320 is the norm because it most certainly isn't.

Heck, that's about the same number of seats most airlines put into their 757's, which is a substantially larger aircraft.


User currently onlineMaverickM11 From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 17444 posts, RR: 46
Reply 10, posted (3 years 1 month 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 3136 times:

Quoting LAXintl (Reply 8):
Obviously there are millions willing to seek out Spirit product.

I'm not sure that they "seek out" NK, so much as "end up":

Quoting LAXintl (Reply 3):
Due leisure nature average customer flies less than 2x year. Not traditional repeat customers like legacy carriers.
o Estimate about 20% of flyers are business customers. Spirit not chasing business customers, but small business owners obviously see good value of product.

...while this seems perfectly normal for leisure/VFR travel to Latin America, it'll be interesting to see how/if it translates to the higher frequency LAS/ORD flying they've added.



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User currently offlineRamblinMan From United States of America, joined Oct 2010, 1138 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (3 years 1 month 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 3125 times:

Quoting lucky777 (Reply 9):
All the airlines i looked up averaged 145-150...Delta, United, US Airways, jetBlue...so let's not try to act as if cramming 178 seats into an A320 is the norm because it most certainly isn't.

The only one of those which is a legitimate comparison is B6. The rest of them have an F cabin. What good does it do you if there's a lower seat-count but only 12 of the passengers see the extra space? (Granted, NK has an "F cabin" but it's only the bulkhead row.)

28'' is about what you get on FR, U2, etc. Personally, I'll take a pass, but you can't fault them for targeting a market which has been largely ignored in the US.

They seem to be doing perfectly well without me. More power to them.

[Edited 2011-07-28 14:12:48]

User currently offlineLAXintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 25166 posts, RR: 48
Reply 12, posted (3 years 1 month 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 3101 times:

Quoting lucky777 (Reply 9):
Oh come on man....you act as if half the plane is $9 fares and they're easy to come by. Everybody and their brother knows the $9 fare is a total gimmick. I think my chances of hitting the Powerball and being struck by lightning in the same day are better than snatching one of those $9 fares.

Not a gimmick at all - In 2009, of its 7 million passengers, 500,000 flew on tickets under $10.

Spirit Airlines $9 Fare Club (by DAL7e7 Jun 19 2009 in Civil Aviation)

Also today the company reaffirmed its stated goal is the continue reducing fares - in that only 1/3 of its revenues eventually comes from ticket sales.

Not too far back its CMO actually stated:
Spirit executives believe it is possible for an airline to obtain as much as 80% of its revenue from sources other than airline ticket sales, Chief Marketing Officer Barry Biffle said

and also
Biffle also declared: “We’re not going to stop until $9 is our most popular fare.”
Spirit Grows Ancillary Rev; To Offer More $9 Fares (by LAXintl May 14 2009 in Civil Aviation)


Spirit might not be your cup of tea, but it works for lots of people. The same manner folks like Air Asia & Ryanair are enjoying their own great success.

[Edited 2011-07-28 14:23:48]


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User currently offlineslcdeltarumd11 From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 3442 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (3 years 1 month 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 3059 times:

ZERO debt and good cash in the bank for such a small airline. Spirits looking strong. They claim that NONE of their routes loose money.

User currently offlineF9Animal From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 5027 posts, RR: 28
Reply 14, posted (3 years 1 month 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 2963 times:

Quoting lucky777 (Reply 5):
178 seats on an A320??? How horrific! You couldn't pay me to fly in that deathtrap!!! Spirit clearly is going after the Greyhound crowd i see. Th

To be honest, seems like the entire industry is going after Greyhound crowds anymore. Let's also consider that many have fallen on tough times, and it is a relief to find some form of low fares out there. Spirit may be cheap, and not the most comfortable ride in town... But, they are not flying death traps, and get you to your destination much faster than Greyhound does.

Quoting Flighty (Reply 1):
Wow, near 10 percent margin? Spirit is going strong.

Totally agree! Way to go Spirit! Glad to see them strong. I would also like to see them come to SEA!



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User currently offlinekcrwflyer From United States of America, joined May 2004, 3814 posts, RR: 7
Reply 15, posted (3 years 1 month 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 2937 times:

Quoting lucky777 (Reply 9):
Oh come on man....you act as if half the plane is $9 fares and they're easy to come by. Everybody and their brother knows the $9 fare is a total gimmick. I think my chances of hitting the Powerball and being struck by lightning in the same day are better than snatching one of those $9 fares.

I see them all the time, almost every day. I guess you should be a rich, dead man. I do give you credit, as your statement did have the potential to be funny.

Quoting lucky777 (Reply 9):
Sure, and my Honda Accord can fit 8 adults if we are all double-jointed and have the dexterity of a chinese gymnast...fact of the matter is 178 in an A320 is downright atrocious. All the airlines i looked up averaged 145-150...Delta, United, US Airways, jetBlue...so let's not try to act as if cramming 178 seats into an A320 is the norm because it most certainly isn't.
Quoting lucky777 (Reply 9):
Heck, that's about the same number of seats most airlines put into their 757's, which is a substantially larger aircraft.

Look up the seating of a high density 757 and get back to me with your findings. Most airlines fly the 757 in 2 or more class configuration, which will always lower the amount of seats on the plane. All of the airlines you cite are offering at least a dual class cabin, or in Jetblue's case, a premium economy product across the entire aircraft.

And FWIW, theres no way in HELL your Honda Accord can fit 8 adults. That car is cerfitied for 5 people, just like an a319 is certified for 150(ish) and an a320 for around 180. If you want car quality room on an aircraft, pay your 600 dollars to sit in first and quit complaining about how someone else does business... correction, Successfully does business.

If Americans decide they're all too good to fly Spirit and they go under for that reason, send me a message and I'll eat a crow dinner, any way you'd like to serve it.


User currently offlineslcdeltarumd11 From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 3442 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (3 years 1 month 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 2889 times:

Quoting lucky777 (Reply 9):
Oh come on man....you act as if half the plane is $9 fares and they're easy to come by. Everybody and their brother knows the $9 fare is a total gimmick. I think my chances of hitting the Powerball and being struck by lightning in the same day are better than snatching one of those $9 fares.

Surprising based on your screen name. I have booked quite a few and been very happy yet ive never been struck by lightning or won the lottery lol. I think those promotional fares are very smart and effective. Spirit is hated on here but you have to respect them. They are able to make money and thats what really matters in real world. Spirit is very impressive and growing and now we can all really see since they are a public company how good they really are doing. They have no fear going head to head with legacy carriers i would watch LAX, ORD and LAS.


User currently offlinePI767 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (3 years 1 month 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 2843 times:

Quoting kcrwflyer (Reply 4):
1. Be careful with the term Po-dunk. LBE is Pittsburgh to them, IAG is buffalo, PBG is Montreal area, and if I showed you a photo of CRW you might even consider us a city too.

I think its funny this argument should show up when, for years, people have been arguing or did argue about the fact that Southwest does not serve New York (Islip is NOT New York) or Washington DC (Baltimore is not DC!). Yet....we are saying LBE is PIT and PBG is Montreal.

So what is it? Did Southwest serve New York City for years? Or does Spirit now serve Pittsbugh and Montreal. That argument works both ways.

Quoting lucky777 (Reply 5):
178 seats on an A320??? How horrific! You couldn't pay me to fly in that deathtrap!!!

Are you kidding me? A "deathtrap?" A certain US carrier that flies A320s in a 150 seat configuration had five accidents in five years (involving FOUR different types of aircraft) resulting in the deaths of 220 people..... Does the fact that their current A320 seats only 150 passengers make them less of a "deathtrap" than Spirit's aircraft with 178 seats?

As much as I despise Spirit and would never fly on them or recommend them to a friend, calling their aircraft a "deathtrap" based on seating configuration when another carrier that flies the SAME aircraft has, statistically, a much worse safety record seems a bit extreme. Let's put the dramatics aside......discomfort is not the same as unsafe.

(By the way, I mean no disrepect to the other airline I am referencing.....I am just trying to show how ridiculous that statement was by adding an equally ridiculous counter-fact.)

Quoting lucky777 (Reply 5):
so i'm sure they're already used to less-than-ideal conditions when travelling on those once-in-a-lifetime family reunion trips to go see uncle Queeofus in Bentonville, Arkansas LOL

You're in PDX, right? Let's compare last minute fares from any number of cities to PDX compared to last minute fares to XNA. Seems to me....if you can afford to fly into XNA, you are not so much of a "Kettle."

Like I said....NOT a fan of NK....but those two reponses were just...well....ignorant.


User currently offlinekcrwflyer From United States of America, joined May 2004, 3814 posts, RR: 7
Reply 18, posted (3 years 1 month 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 2816 times:

Quoting PI767 (Reply 17):
So what is it? Did Southwest serve New York City for years? Or does Spirit now serve Pittsbugh and Montreal. That argument works both ways.

You make a good point. The difference is, IMO, NK's fares make their catchment area much larger. I'm sure much of their LBE traffic is driving from the greater PIT area. Whereas with the level of competition in NY, WN probably wasn't getting much drive traffic from the city.


User currently offlineBD338 From United States of America, joined Jul 2010, 703 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (3 years 1 month 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 2796 times:

Their service model doesn't appeal to me at all but it appeals to enough people that they can make money on it. Nice job Spirit.

User currently offlineAWACSooner From United States of America, joined Jan 2008, 1902 posts, RR: 1
Reply 20, posted (3 years 1 month 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 2749 times:

Quoting lucky777 (Reply 5):
178 seats on an A320??? How horrific! You couldn't pay me to fly in that deathtrap!!! Spirit clearly is going after the Greyhound crowd i see. Those people are just happy to have a pot to piss in and a window to throw it out of if you know what i mean, so i'm sure they're already used to less-than-ideal conditions when travelling on those once-in-a-lifetime family reunion trips to go see uncle Queeofus in Bentonville, Arkansas LOL!!!

With so many much more appealing flying experiences to be had for virtually the same price, why would anyone willing to be such a glutton for punishment to permit themselves to fly on Spirit? I think i'd rather hop on my 18hp Briggs&Stratton and head over to grandma's via riding lawnmower before i ever stepped foot on a plane that had SPIRIT on the side of it.

DING DING DING! We have a winner!


User currently offlineUnited787 From United States of America, joined May 2005, 2703 posts, RR: 1
Reply 21, posted (3 years 1 month 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 2574 times:

Quoting PI767 (Reply 17):
Are you kidding me? A "deathtrap?" A certain US carrier that flies A320s in a 150 seat configuration had five accidents in five years (involving FOUR different types of aircraft) resulting in the deaths of 220 people....

What airline are you talking about? It isn't DL, UA, US, B6, VX, or F9, they are the only US airlines I can think of that flies the A320...


User currently offlinebreaker1011 From United States of America, joined Nov 2007, 938 posts, RR: 2
Reply 22, posted (3 years 1 month 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 2563 times:

Quoting LAXintl (Reply 3):

You do a nice job with these earnings call recaps. Thanks!



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User currently offlinebreaker1011 From United States of America, joined Nov 2007, 938 posts, RR: 2
Reply 23, posted (3 years 1 month 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 2534 times:

Quoting F9Animal (Reply 14):
To be honest, seems like the entire industry is going after Greyhound crowds anymore.

The greyhound crowd (by the way, most US families are in that category whether we want to think so or not) is the most ripe for growth, plain and simple. The big guys roll around in pools of blood competing for the business traveler, and that crowd is flat as corporate budgets aren't what they used to be and technology eats away at the need for person-to-person contact. So the rest of the pie on the plate is Ma and Pa Kettle and the kids.

If Spirit can fly the family around and produce this kind of financial result, how in the world can we be so critical of them? DL, UA, AA, and US would tear out their own fingernails for a 10% margin.

Quoting lucky777 (Reply 5):
Those people are just happy to have a pot to piss in and a window to throw it out of if you know what i mean, so i'm sure they're already used to less-than-ideal conditions when travelling on those once-in-a-lifetime family reunion trips to go see uncle Queeofus in Bentonville, Arkansas LOL!!!

Wow. Only on this forum could someone sink so low as to belittle an entire customer base they don't even know, just because they don't care for the airline they fly on. Enjoy your ivory tower.



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User currently offlinetztristar500 From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 1452 posts, RR: 9
Reply 24, posted (3 years 1 month 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 2502 times:

The max FAA certified seating limit for the A320 is 179. The EASA limit is 180.


35 years of American Trans Air/ATA Airlines, 1973-2008. A great little airline that will not be soon forgotten.
25 UALWN : easyJet have 183 seats in their A320s, so I would guess the EASA limit is actually 183. I don't know about the FAA limit.
26 GCT64 : Spirit seem to be doing an excellent job of bringing a Ryanair-like model to the US, in fact it has surprised me how long it has taken for a US airlin
27 tztristar500 : Where is it shown that they have 183? If this is true, then they are limited to a maximum of 180 pax as the EASA limit IS 180.
28 GCT64 : Various online and printed sources disagree, some say that Easyjet's A320s seat 174, others say they seat 183 (does anyone know the real answer?). Bu
29 einsteinboricua : You'd have to be a member of their club and then book months in advance. They're out there, it's just not something that's feasible for (tourist) Joe
30 BMIFlyer : Easyjet's A320 aircraft are configured with 180 seats. The ex GB Airways ones had 174. I just got that from a member of EZY cabin crew!
31 UALWN : I stand corrected. The seatguru page shows a seating chart with 183, and I seemed to remember that indeed it was asymmetric in the back, but I guess
32 Coronado990 : Haha thats funny because that's what I call your airport...CR(o)W. I am very curious about this airline and purchased myself and nephew a couple of $
33 LAXintl : Yes, and now that they are public people can see the books and understand its not all hocus-pocus. The more I have learned about Spirit over the year
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