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User currently offlineLAXintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 24847 posts, RR: 46
Posted (2 years 12 months 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 9244 times:

Pre-merger United Airlines has uploaded its planned Winter 2011/2012 flight schedule effective October 30, 2011 as follows.

Route / Weekly Frequency / Equipment

ATLANTIC
IADACCLOS – 5x - 763
IAD-BRU – 7x - 777
IAD-DME – 4x - 763
IAD-DXB – 7x - 777
IAD-FCO – 5x – 763
IAD-FRA – 14x 777 + 7x 763
IAD-GVA – 5x – 763
IAD-KWI-BAH – 7x – 777
IAD-LHR – 14x 777 + 7x 763
IAD-MUC – 7x – 777
IAD-ZRH – 7x – 763
LAX-LHR – 7x - 777
ORD-AMS – 6x – 763
ORD-BRU – 6x – 763
ORD-CDG – 7x – 763
ORD-FRA – 14x - 777
ORD-LHR – 21x – 763
ORD-MUC – 7x – 777
SFO-FRA – 7x – 744
SFO-LHR – 7x – 744


PACIFIC
HNL-NRT – 7x - 777
IAD-NRT – 7x - 777
IAD-PEK – 7x - 777
LAX-NRT – 7x – 777
LAX-PVG – 7x – 777
LAX-SYD – 7x - 744
ORD-HKG – 7x – 744
ORD-NRT – 7x – 744
ORD-PEK – 7x - 777
ORD-PVG – 7x - 777
SEA-NRT – 7x - 777
SFO-HKG – 7x – 744
SFO-ICN – 7x – 744
SFO-KIX – 5x – 777
SFO-NRT – 7x – 744
SFO-PEK - 7x – 744
SFO-PVG – 7x – 777
SFO-SYD – 7x – 744

Intra-Pacific Tags
NRT-BKK – 7x – 744
NRT-ICN – 7x – 777
NRT-SIN – 7x – 777
NRT-TPE – 7x – 777
SYD-MEL – 7x - 744


LATIN
IAD-EZE – 7Xx - 763
IAD-GRU-GIG – 7x – 777
ORD-GRU – 7x - 777


Routes Operated for PMCO
EWR-BRU – 7x - 777
EWR-ZRH – 7x - 763
GUM-HNL – 7x – 777
GUM-NRT – 14x - 777
IAH-LIM – 7x - 763


Routes Operated by PMCO
IAD-AMS
IAD-CDG
HKG-SGN
HKG-SIN
NRT-HKG


Due to softness in the Atlantic which seemingly all US airlines are experiencing, United is more actively using day of week scheduling in several markets this winter.

[Edited 2011-07-29 10:54:01]


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User currently offlineFL787 From United States of America, joined Aug 2007, 1540 posts, RR: 12
Reply 1, posted (2 years 12 months 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 8870 times:

Thanks for posting. Does UA have any 744 crew bases outside of SFO? The 744s have always been used mostly out of SFO but I don't remember them ever being this concentrated.

Interesting to see IAD-PEK stick around for the first time in a few years and SFO-LHR keep the 744.



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User currently offlineadambrau From United States of America, joined Mar 2007, 78 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (2 years 12 months 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 8777 times:

So no indication that the HKG-SIN tag might revert back to a 747 after the end of October, as some had previously noted in a separate thread last week?

User currently offlineSTT757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 16819 posts, RR: 51
Reply 3, posted (2 years 12 months 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 8747 times:

IAD-CDG is showing 2x daily CO 757-200
IAD-AMS is showing 1 daily CO 757-200



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User currently offlineHiflyer From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 2167 posts, RR: 3
Reply 4, posted (2 years 12 months 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 8716 times:

IAD-PEK gonna run all winter? Normally becomes a tag off IAD-NRT.

User currently offlinejgw787 From United States of America, joined Dec 2010, 208 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (2 years 12 months 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 8682 times:

Quoting FL787 (Reply 1):
Thanks for posting. Does UA have any 744 crew bases outside of SFO? The 744s have always been used mostly out of SFO but I don't remember them ever being this concentrated.

I think UA has a 747 cabin crew base at HKG .


User currently offlinewashingtonian From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (2 years 12 months 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 8603 times:

Thanks for posting. PMUA had an impressive network; the new United has nothing short of an amazing network.

Two questions:
1. Are they dedicating the PMUA 777s that have the IPTE to certain routes like they did with the 767 and 747 fleet before they were completely renovated?
2. Is IAD-GIG not operating non-stop this winter for the few months that it normally does?

Quoting FL787 (Reply 1):
Interesting to see IAD-PEK stick around for the first time in a few years and SFO-LHR keep the 744.

Interesting indeed. I wonder if the IAD-PEK flight has shown growth since they started it.


User currently offlinewhorsefield From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2009, 56 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (2 years 12 months 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 8586 times:

Quoting FL787 (Reply 1):
Thanks for posting. Does UA have any 744 crew bases outside of SFO? The 744s have always been used mostly out of SFO but I don't remember them ever being this concentrated.

FRA i believe as well.


User currently offlinewashingtonian From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (2 years 12 months 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 8586 times:

Also, does anybody know who had a larger Atlantic network, PMCO or PMUA? It must be close, especially considering CO's extensive use of 757s out of EWR.

User currently offlinewashingtonian From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (2 years 12 months 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 8575 times:

One last question: Will any of the 14 PMUA domestic 767s have undergone conversions by the end of this year? If so, several of these routes would be prime for them: IAD-FCO, ORD-AMS & CDG.

User currently offlinetpaewr From United States of America, joined May 2001, 450 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (2 years 12 months 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 8533 times:

2010 CO had 25,159M ASMs over the pond and UA 22,915


CO overtook UA back in 2005/2006


User currently offlineaznmadsci From United States of America, joined Dec 2007, 3658 posts, RR: 5
Reply 11, posted (2 years 12 months 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 8517 times:

Quoting washingtonian (Reply 8):
Also, does anybody know who had a larger Atlantic network, PMCO or PMUA? It must be close, especially considering CO's extensive use of 757s out of EWR.

I would say PMCO had more destinations while maybe PMUA had more seats. Anyone breakdown the numbers?



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User currently offlinewashingtonian From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (2 years 12 months 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 8497 times:

Quoting tpaewr (Reply 10):
2010 CO had 25,159M ASMs over the pond and UA 22,915

Interesting. Not that it matters, but I imagine United sent a lot more widebody aircraft across the pond versus Continental?


User currently offlineLAXintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 24847 posts, RR: 46
Reply 13, posted (2 years 12 months 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 8352 times:

Quoting FL787 (Reply 1):
Does UA have any 744 crew bases outside of SFO?

UA's 744 bases are SFO, ORD and LAX.

Quoting Hiflyer (Reply 4):
IAD-PEK gonna run all winter? Normally becomes a tag off IAD-NRT.

Yes. They are keeping it year-round this year.

Quoting washingtonian (Reply 6):
1. Are they dedicating the PMUA 777s that have the IPTE to certain routes like they did with the 767 and 747 fleet before they were completely renovated?

Yes the converted 777s tend to focus on a few markets. I posted those in one of the UA fleet threads last month.

Quoting washingtonian (Reply 6):
2. Is IAD-GIG not operating non-stop this winter for the few months that it normally does?

No, because UA leased a Brazil slot to US Airways.

Quoting washingtonian (Reply 6):
I wonder if the IAD-PEK flight has shown growth since they started it.

All of China has grown. Market has come back with a vengeance and as mentioned in Q2 earnings call China was their largest growth market especially in premium demand.

Quoting washingtonian (Reply 9):
Will any of the 14 PMUA domestic 767s have undergone conversions by the end of this year?

First reconfiged aircraft wont be out will Feb 2012.



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User currently offlineC010T3 From Brazil, joined Jul 2006, 3681 posts, RR: 19
Reply 14, posted (2 years 12 months 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 8349 times:

Quoting washingtonian (Reply 6):
2. Is IAD-GIG not operating non-stop this winter for the few months that it normally does?

There is no need, since the frequencies were leased out to US.


User currently offlineaznmadsci From United States of America, joined Dec 2007, 3658 posts, RR: 5
Reply 15, posted (2 years 12 months 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 7896 times:

Quoting LAXintl (Reply 13):
All of China has grown. Market has come back with a vengeance and as mentioned in Q2 earnings call China was their largest growth market especially in premium demand.

For a hypothetical scenario ... if the new UA wanted to start IAH-PEK, would it be PMCO or PMUA? Or would they wait till there is a single SOC?



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User currently offlineLHUSA From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 563 posts, RR: 2
Reply 16, posted (2 years 12 months 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 7758 times:

Quoting aznmadsci (Reply 15):
if the new UA wanted to start IAH-PEK

I would think that would be a perfect 787 route (at least to start). As well as IAH-PVG... I wonder if UA will ever start IAH-SYD. The 787 can make that route, correct?


User currently offlineLAXintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 24847 posts, RR: 46
Reply 17, posted (2 years 12 months 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 7062 times:

Quoting aznmadsci (Reply 15):
For a hypothetical scenario ... if the new UA wanted to start IAH-PEK, would it be PMCO or PMUA? Or would they wait till there is a single SOC?

Assuming they would get the required slots and authority I see no reason why it could not be either.

Probably comes more down to aircraft availability, or preference in cabin configurations than anything else. There would be no restriction in using a PMUA plane to IAH if that is something you are getting at.



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User currently offlinegoldenjet707 From United States of America, joined Sep 2008, 83 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (2 years 12 months 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 6006 times:

Quoting jgw787 (Reply 5):

US carriers train their flight-attendants for all aircraft in their fleets. The reference to crew bases concerns only the pilots.


User currently onlineSASDC8 From Norway, joined Mar 2006, 738 posts, RR: 1
Reply 19, posted (2 years 12 months 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 5036 times:
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Quoting LAXintl (Thread starter):
Pre-merger United Airlines has uploaded its planned Winter 2011/2012 flight schedule effective October 30, 2011 as follows.

What about UAs flight ex EWR?



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User currently offlineDrerx7 From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 5162 posts, RR: 8
Reply 20, posted (2 years 12 months 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 4657 times:

Patiently awaiting any further changes at IAH...


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User currently offlinequiet1 From Thailand, joined Apr 2010, 352 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (2 years 12 months 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 4450 times:

Quoting Hiflyer (Reply 4):
I think UA has a 747 cabin crew base at HKG .

UA also has a F/A domicile in NRT.

Quoting goldenjet707 (Reply 18):
US carriers train their flight-attendants for all aircraft in their fleets.

In the recent past NRT and HKG F/As were trained only on 747 and 777, but I understand with the merged carrier, they will be qualified on more (all?) equipment types. (I say recent past, because back when a 767 operated HKG-DEL, I'm pretty sure the HKG F/As were qualified on that, as well. From its opening 15+ years ago, the NRT domicile F/As have been 747/777 qualified only.)

Also, LHR and FRA based F/As were not qualified for all equipment types, but I understand that will change, as well, in the merged carrier.


User currently offlineUnited1 From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 5930 posts, RR: 9
Reply 22, posted (2 years 12 months 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 3835 times:

Quoting quiet1 (Reply 21):
Quoting Hiflyer (Reply 4):
I think UA has a 747 cabin crew base at HKG .

UA also has a F/A domicile in NRT.

PMUA also has F/A bases in LHR and FRA however all pilots are US based.



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User currently offlinequiet1 From Thailand, joined Apr 2010, 352 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (2 years 12 months 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 3274 times:

Quoting United1 (Reply 22):
PMUA also has F/A bases in LHR and FRA however all pilots are US based.

Yeah, somehow that sentence got edited out of my post. Guess I need to pay closer attention before the final "Post Message" button is pushed!

I was trying to contrast NRT/HKG where F/As were only 747/777 qualified with LHR/FRA where they had a few more qualifications (e.g. 767, but not A320), to supplement goldenjet707's post that US carriers train their F/As for all aircraft types in their fleet.


User currently offlineLAXintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 24847 posts, RR: 46
Reply 24, posted (2 years 12 months 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 2746 times:

Quoting SASDC8 (Reply 19):
What about UAs flight ex EWR?

Look closer....

Quoting LAXintl (Thread starter):
EWR-BRU – 7x - 777
EWR-ZRH – 7x - 763



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25 SonomaFlyer : On the SFO to LHR segment, this is changing from 14x 777's per week to a 7x per week with the 744. IIRC, its been some time since UA has operated a 74
26 UAL777UK : Not so sure about that, it may have changed in recent years but when FAs at LHR did RET their handbooks needed to be up to date on all aircraft in th
27 ORDBOSEWR : This is classic PMCO thinking. They want commonality and the ability to change. I can see the value of having them qualified on all types that are fl
28 LipeGIG : There's no need for frequencies to peak season flights. CO executed IAH-GIG before got regular frequencies, as well as AA did the same with JFK-GIG.
29 C010T3 : Yes, I'm aware of that, but before, UA only did use the frequencies as potential excuse for not being dormant.
30 daron4000 : Is EI operated IAD-MAD still operating this winter?
31 dutchflyboi : Yes, 4 days a week: Thursday-Friday-Saturday-Sunday
32 IADLHR : Isnt that a major cutback from last winter? If I am not mistaken it was daily last winter.
33 dutchflyboi : For the most part last winter it was 6 days a week, and changed to 7 days a week.
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