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User currently offlineJackbr From Australia, joined Dec 2009, 665 posts, RR: 0
Posted (3 years 2 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 2575 times:

When did PA start service to MEL and what were the routings? Were they turn arounds from SYD similar to what UA does today?

The airline flew the 707 and 747 to Melbourne.

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User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 25125 posts, RR: 22
Reply 1, posted (3 years 2 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 2442 times:

Quoting Jackbr (Thread starter):
When did PA start service to MEL and what were the routings? Were they turn arounds from SYD similar to what UA does today?

The airline flew the 707 and 747 to Melbourne.

Can't find the exact date but I believe Pan Am began their original service to Melbourne sometime in the late 1940s or early 1950s as a tag-on from SYD. This 1947 news item refers to their application to the US CAB for permission to extend their SYD route to MEL.
http://news.google.com/newspapers?id...ican%20melbourne&pg=4374%2C7749516

According to this 1970 item, Pan Am dropped MEL in 1958 and reinstated service when the new airport opened in 1970. The old Melbourne airport couldn't handle the 707 or DC-8. I believe the Comet 4 was the only 4-engine jet that regularly used the old airport.
http://news.google.com/newspapers?id...rican%20melbourne&pg=6971%2C883261


User currently onlinetullamarine From Australia, joined Aug 1999, 1553 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (3 years 2 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 2374 times:

My mum did MEL-HNL-LAX on a 747SP in 1984. Can't remember if it went via SYD.


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User currently offlinetimz From United States of America, joined Sep 1999, 6814 posts, RR: 7
Reply 3, posted (3 years 2 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 2007 times:

As you see at http://timetableimages.com/ttimages/pa/pa58/ they didn't fly to Melbourne in 1/58; no Melbourne in the few earlier OAGs I checked -- 1949, 1951, 1953, 1955, 1957. They did have a DC-7C from SYD in 5/59.

User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 25125 posts, RR: 22
Reply 4, posted (3 years 2 weeks 5 days ago) and read 1918 times:

Quoting timz (Reply 3):
they didn't fly to Melbourne in 1/58; no Melbourne in the few earlier OAGs I checked -- 1949, 1951, 1953, 1955, 1957

Perhaps the US and Australia couldn't reach an agreement on amending the bilateral to permit the Melbourne service Pan Am applied for in 1947.

Quoting timz (Reply 3):
They did have a DC-7C from SYD in 5/59.

Pan Am replaced the DC-7C with the 707-321 to/from SYD in mid-December 1959. They kept a DC-7C based at NAN until 1965 to operate NAN-AKL-NAN and once a week NAN-PPG-NAN, connecting with the 707s at NAN, since AKL couldn't handle large jets until the current airport opened in 1965. I think those DC-7C shuttle flights to/from NAN were among Pan Am's last propeller services.

SYD newspaper article dated December 18, 1959 covering Pan Am's inaugural 707 service to SYD.
http://news.google.com/newspapers?id...0707%20australia&pg=1522%2C2411392


User currently offlineAeri28 From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 705 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (3 years 2 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 1699 times:

In the early 80s, via 747sp, their route went SFO-LAX-SYD-MEL. I rememer flying the sfo-lax portion and asked if I was continuing on to SYD so they could give me a headset.

User currently offlinem404 From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 2225 posts, RR: 5
Reply 6, posted (3 years 2 weeks 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 1617 times:
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I thought I flew them in the 70's LAX-HNL-NAN-SYD-MEL. Would that have been possible. I do know it was PA and a 707 but not sure if I changed carriers in SYD.

[Edited 2011-08-05 00:28:45]


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User currently offlinePITrules From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 3154 posts, RR: 4
Reply 7, posted (3 years 2 weeks 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 1499 times:

MEL was via both AKL and SYD


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