Airic From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Posted (13 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 2395 times:
Jusdt wondering, even if it may be 5 years til it comes out, that does look cool with the lounges and spas, etc. Obvoiusly this isn't very economical so how long will this probably last? Figure if I ever go internationally, I'll try to get on a loaded A380 before they become normal again!
IMissPiedmont From United States of America, joined May 2001, 6295 posts, RR: 33
Reply 2, posted (13 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 2321 times:
Sadly, by the time the A380 comes out, there will be such a demand for super large aircraft that you will never see the lounges, shopping spas, etc. The 747/D10/L10 hit the market a few years early and so had lounges for a few years. The A380 is going to come on line when demand matches capacity.
Just my opinion though, depends on the economy 5-6 years from now.
DIA From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 3273 posts, RR: 28
Reply 3, posted (13 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 2317 times:
What Airbus is trying to do is show airlines how much room there actually is on board...which is a very large amount. You gotta figure the A380 is actually a bit wider than the 747, so if you take a chunk of cabin and put in a sofa here, a coffee table there, a bar over there. . .while utilizing "empty" space, it is going to look like a mansion, which in return impresses and excites potential owners and pax alike. . .and airlines want pax to be impressed with their equipment!
So, yes, it is marketing 101. Same as when Boeing "wowed" everybody with the 747. The only thing is, this is not the 1970's.
What I'm trying to say is that I think that with the loads of pax now, plus with airlines like Singapore, Virgin...and similar; there are absolutly going to be areas on the A380 that are used for pax entertainment or comfort other than just more seats.
There are way to many people flying Business and First Class now-a-days for an airline like Virgin not to offer an absolutly perfect service to win over their business. Virgin has a loyal following, especially in their upper-classes. It is because of Virgin's way of business. . .go above and beyond what is normally expected from an airline, and then you will absolutley have return business. That is precisely how Virgin grew into the worldy airline they now are.
Yes Airic, there is a Santa Claus, and he's on his way in the form of a big 'ole jolly A380!
Whew. . .DIA
Ding! You are now free to keep supporting Frontier.
ChrisNH From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 4120 posts, RR: 2
Reply 5, posted (13 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 2271 times:
One need only remember how long the lounges on American's DC-10s and 747s lasted...the piano bars, etc. They gave way to more seats. However, the question is how economical the A380 will be to operate, and what its break-even load factor will be. The higher that is, the less likely it is you'll see health spas et al.
OO-AOG From Switzerland, joined Dec 2000, 1426 posts, RR: 4
Reply 7, posted (13 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 2264 times:
I think that there will be some of theses lounges on board the A380. There's an increasingly high demand from high yeld Y/C pax for comfort improvement. That's why the bizz jet market is in such good health for the moment. Give private cabins to passenger on long hauls scheduled flights and you will see many new pax coming from the bizz jet market. The pool and spa? Maybe on an A380 for the Sultan of Brunei....so it's maybe not a bad idea from Airbus to make an ad with it.
Modesto2 From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 2805 posts, RR: 5
Reply 10, posted (13 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 2205 times:
The real question: will it start? My opinion? NO! Airlines already know what they're doing to the A380. Airbus is using the plane's size and luxury to attract customers. I guess they can claim spas and whatever because hypothetically, it could happen. I hope people are smart enough to realize that gyms and shops won't appear on an airplane.
Jwenting From Netherlands, joined Apr 2001, 10213 posts, RR: 18
Reply 11, posted (13 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 2204 times:
They will never be fitted to most aircraft. Maybe a few that are operated as VIP jets (larger than a BBJ!) or in all-firstclass, but most will be on highvolume domestic and holiday charters (even cheaper for Virgin to fly British youngsters to the Costas for 2 weeks of unsupervised booze and sex), and those will be crammed full of the seats you now get in a DC9 or 737-300...