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Thai Cargo To End 77F Operations?  
User currently offlinena From Germany, joined Dec 1999, 10360 posts, RR: 11
Posted (2 years 8 months 1 week 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 7315 times:

Seems Thai´s lease of Southern Air 777Fs is already at its end, as the first one has been repainted for DHL as reported here:
http://www.skyliner-aviation.de/regdb.main?LC=nav4&page=3

[Edited 2011-08-11 06:48:56]

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User currently offlineblueflyer From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 3696 posts, RR: 2
Reply 1, posted (2 years 8 months 1 week 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 7114 times:
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Interesting. With this aircraft, I think DHL now has its name on every Boeing aircraft from 727 on to the 777, one up on TNT (737 - 777).


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User currently offlinebmibaby737 From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2005, 1784 posts, RR: 9
Reply 2, posted (2 years 8 months 1 week 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 7077 times:

"THAI Airways has cancelled the use of one of its two freighters operated by Southern Air.

THAI had a block space purchase (BSP) contract for two years – ending March 2012 – for the two 777-200 LR freighters. Pichai Chunganuwad, managing director of THAI’s cargo and commercial mail department, confirmed the move and that THAI will now have to pay Southern a US$8.8 million penalty fee."


http://www.aircargonews.net/News/THAI-cancels-Southern-contract.aspx

Planespotters.net has the aircraft returned to Southern Air on 27th July 2011

http://www.planespotters.net/Product.../777/37986,N774SA-Southern-Air.php

In related news, Thai will convert two of their own Boeing 747-400 aircraft into cargo freighters, due for re-delivery in March & April 2012. Conversion will be done by Boeing.

bmi

[Edited 2011-08-11 07:46:00]

User currently offlineStitch From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 29678 posts, RR: 84
Reply 3, posted (2 years 8 months 1 week 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 6663 times:
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It might be cheaper for TG to convert their 744s instead of leasing / owning 77Fs.

User currently offline777way From Pakistan, joined Dec 2005, 5716 posts, RR: 4
Reply 4, posted (2 years 8 months 1 week 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 6571 times:

^ Quadruple posts, TG Cargo have also ended Amsterdam service.

User currently offlineB777LRF From Luxembourg, joined Nov 2008, 1208 posts, RR: 3
Reply 5, posted (2 years 8 months 1 week 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 5932 times:

The SOO aircraft painted in DHL colours will operate a round-the-world flight, routing CVG-BAH-HKG-CVG. It will alternate with a 747-400 from Polar.

Here's an example of why the 777F is the superior long-haul freighter: The 744F will need full tanks to operate HKG-CVG, a flight with a block time north of 15 hours, around 170 tons in rough numbers. This means it can only carry a payload of around 40 tons. The 777F only needs 110 tons of fuel, leaving room for around 85 tons of payload. Double the payload with 40% fuel burn reduction? Why, yes, that's exactly the thing the 777F was build for. Nothing, but nothing, comes close to even thinking of touching the 777F in the long-haul, heavylift, cargo market ..... and that includes the 748F. Unless, of course, you need a nose-door.



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User currently offlineCrimsonNL From Netherlands, joined Dec 2007, 1800 posts, RR: 42
Reply 6, posted (2 years 8 months 1 week 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 5445 times:
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Will she be painted in DHL yellow? I can't wait to see that!


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User currently offline777way From Pakistan, joined Dec 2005, 5716 posts, RR: 4
Reply 7, posted (2 years 8 months 1 week 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 5408 times:

^ No, only basic large titles.

User currently offlineCX Flyboy From Hong Kong, joined Dec 1999, 6533 posts, RR: 55
Reply 8, posted (2 years 8 months 1 week 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 5150 times:

Quoting CrimsonNL (Reply 6):
Will she be painted in DHL yellow? I can't wait to see that!

It is painted in similar colours to Air Hong Kong and the two yellow Kalitta 744s. White with a yellow aft fuselage and Southern Air titles, the same size as on their 747s.


User currently offlineflythere From Hong Kong, joined May 2010, 396 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (2 years 8 months 1 week 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 4470 times:

Quoting CX Flyboy (Reply 8):

Quoting CrimsonNL (Reply 6):
Will she be painted in DHL yellow?

It is painted in similar colours to Air Hong Kong and the two yellow Kalitta 744s. White with a yellow aft fuselage and Southern Air titles, the same size as on their 747s.


Right. DHL logo and signature yellow at the back while subsidiary name on the front.


User currently offline777way From Pakistan, joined Dec 2005, 5716 posts, RR: 4
Reply 10, posted (2 years 8 months 1 week 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 4432 times:

Skyliner told a different story regarding livery.

User currently offlineAllee From Canada, joined Jun 1999, 478 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (2 years 8 months 1 week 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 4333 times:

Quoting flythere (Reply 9):
Right. DHL logo and signature yellow at the back while subsidiary name on the front.

The yellow doesn't go all the way down. The belly is grey.


User currently offlineCX Flyboy From Hong Kong, joined Dec 1999, 6533 posts, RR: 55
Reply 12, posted (2 years 8 months 1 week 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 4061 times:

Quoting 777way (Reply 10):
Skyliner told a different story regarding livery.

I saw it with my own eyes and I was the one who informed Skyliner.


User currently offline777way From Pakistan, joined Dec 2005, 5716 posts, RR: 4
Reply 13, posted (2 years 8 months 1 week 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 4014 times:

^ They misreported it.

User currently offlineairtran737 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 3690 posts, RR: 12
Reply 14, posted (2 years 8 months 1 week 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 3844 times:
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There is a photo on the other site. Yellow tail, white body.


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User currently offlineflythere From Hong Kong, joined May 2010, 396 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (2 years 8 months 1 week 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 3552 times:

Quoting airtran737 (Reply 14):


There is a photo on the other site. Yellow tail, white body.

Right. Sorry but I have to post a non a.net photo to clear things up.


And this is AHK.

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Quoting Allee (Reply 11):
The yellow doesn't go all the way down. The belly is grey.

Thanks for spotting such a little difference, I really didnt notice that until you told me. Thank you!


User currently offlineAllee From Canada, joined Jun 1999, 478 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (2 years 8 months 1 week 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 3163 times:

Quoting flythere (Reply 15):
Thanks for spotting such a little difference, I really didnt notice that until you told me. Thank you!

No worries. Can you spot the error in the DHL titles?


User currently offlineROSWELL41 From United States of America, joined Aug 2001, 765 posts, RR: 1
Reply 17, posted (2 years 8 months 1 week 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 3038 times:

So Southern will operate one 777 for Thai and one for DHL. Someone has already posted the DHL route, what is the route the Thai aircraft is flying? I've heard that Southern has also signed a deal to fly a 777 for TNT. Are they going to be operating the 777 that TNT has just received? I have heard it will be a CMI (Crew, Maintenance, Insurance) for TNT.

User currently offlineflythere From Hong Kong, joined May 2010, 396 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (2 years 8 months 1 week 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 2998 times:

Quoting Allee (Reply 16):


No worries. Can you spot the error in the DHL titles?


Any? Basically identical?


User currently offlineAllee From Canada, joined Jun 1999, 478 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (2 years 8 months 1 week 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 2953 times:

Quoting flythere (Reply 18):
Any? Basically identical?

Pretty subtle and most people won't notice, but whoever did the decals put the top half of the H and L too high. Should be the same height as the D.


User currently offlinevirginblue4 From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2008, 889 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (2 years 8 months 1 week 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 2914 times:

Quoting Allee (Reply 19):
Pretty subtle and most people won't notice, but whoever did the decals put the top half of the H and L too high. Should be the same height as the D.

I spent 20 minutes looking, but found it!  

I noticed it from the line splitting all the letters in half is not equal on the D, compared to the H and L.


Jordan  



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User currently offlinetower From United States of America, joined Feb 2011, 107 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (2 years 8 months 1 week 22 hours ago) and read 2796 times:

Saw this aircraft today at CVG. It has been in and out the past two days that i'm aware of. It departs CVG heading to EDDP. That makes 2 77F and a handful of 747F that CVG is seeing on an almost daily basis. DHL is really building up their operation more and more. It's great to see such an array of aircraft.

User currently offlineflythere From Hong Kong, joined May 2010, 396 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (2 years 8 months 1 week 7 hours ago) and read 2443 times:

Quoting Allee (Reply 19):
Pretty subtle and most people won't notice, but whoever did the decals put the top half of the H and L too high. Should be the same height as the D.

Good eyes man!  


User currently offlineblueflyer From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 3696 posts, RR: 2
Reply 23, posted (2 years 8 months 1 week ago) and read 2144 times:
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Quoting ROSWELL41 (Reply 17):
Are they going to be operating the 777 that TNT has just received?

Unless TNT has changed their plans recently (anything is possible), the TNT 777s are leased from Guggenheim and crewed in-house. The first one is in service and the other two will join the fleet by the end of the year.



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