contrails15 From United States of America, joined Oct 2008, 1181 posts, RR: 0 Posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 17882 times:
The word of the day here in JFK is delayed. I think we've gotten 2 inches of rain already and wicked thunderstorms early this morning. Things are at a crawl.
Soxfan From United States of America, joined Mar 2008, 854 posts, RR: 0 Reply 1, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 17434 times:
Yikes, this is nuts. Check out the arrivals page on the JFK website and you'll see evidence of many a diversion, and associated delays on departure flights:
Is there a set process for figuring out to which airport a particular flight will divert, or is it primarily based on fuel needs and available space at the other airports?
Good luck to everyone working there today.
Pilot: "Request push, which way should we face?" JFK Ground: "You better face the front, sir, or you'll scare the pax!"
ltbewr From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 12365 posts, RR: 12 Reply 2, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 17278 times:
I would assume LGA and EWR have major delays today too. As much as 4 to 5 inches (10-12 cm) of rain is expected in some of the NY City metro area that started last night and expected to continue until the wee hours of Monday morning. It will be a mess all day.
As of about 11:30 AM, the delays were in the 1 Hr 30 Min to 2 Hour range in and out of the regions airport. I would expect other airports on the northeast coast to also face significant ops delays (BOS, BWI, IAD, DCA, PHL).
Mir From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 19814 posts, RR: 56 Reply 3, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 17059 times:
Normally these sorts of storms roll in during the afternoon, leaving you with at least a proper morning schedule. But when they show up in the middle of the night and screw up the morning schedule, things are going to get very bad indeed.
-Mir
7 billion, one nation, imagination...it's a beautiful day
laxboeingman From United States of America, joined Mar 2008, 392 posts, RR: 0 Reply 5, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 16998 times:
Quoting ltbewr (Reply 2): I would assume LGA and EWR have major delays today too.
The diversion link says that EWR is having inbound delays.
I am sorry to hear of all this. I hope it gets cleared up soon.
I wonder how long the long haul international flights will be able to hold, or what there situation will be?
contrails15 From United States of America, joined Oct 2008, 1181 posts, RR: 0 Reply 6, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 16900 times:
Just caught the weather on the news. JFK has had 6 inches of rain since last night.
safetyDemo From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 310 posts, RR: 0 Reply 7, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 16870 times:
Looking at the JFK arrivals page, it appears that every JetBlue red-eye diverted ... lots of other diversions, too, but the JetBlue trend was the one that really jumped out at me! I live right in between JFK and LGA - the weather between 0430 and 0700 was horrific. Not surprised to see the outcome of flights arriving in that time frame. Hopefully the operation begins to recover as it is only raining right now. Still bad for JFK, but better than it was!
Please direct your attention to the flight attendants in the cabin...
FLYjoe From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 250 posts, RR: 0 Reply 8, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 16683 times:
I saw on a friend's FB page, a South African A346 at the gate in PHL.
American 767 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 3334 posts, RR: 14 Reply 9, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 16663 times:
Things at JFK are not as bad as you think they are.
AA171 from BRU arrived right on time as scheduled, at 1230P.
AA45 from CDG arrived at 0134P only 14 min behind schedule. That's not bad at all.
Yes some flights are delayed, but not all of them.
I wouldn't worry about anything if I were to travel today, unless a delay would make me miss a connecting flight. When I have no connecting flight, I worry about nothing. When I travel, I relax completely, unlike most people.
Ben Soriano
"Aimer jusqu'a l'impossible, c'est possible". Tina Arena.
contrails15 From United States of America, joined Oct 2008, 1181 posts, RR: 0 Reply 11, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 16385 times:
Quoting American 767 (Reply 9):
Things at JFK are not as bad as you think they are.
AA171 from BRU arrived right on time as scheduled, at 1230P.
AA45 from CDG arrived at 0134P only 14 min behind schedule. That's not bad at all.
Yes some flights are delayed, but not all of them.
I wouldn't worry about anything if I were to travel today, unless a delay would make me miss a connecting flight. When I have no connecting flight, I worry about nothing. When I travel, I relax completely, unlike most people.
Ben Soriano
I worked 6 flights today at JFK. 3 were diverted and the rest averaged leaving the gate a half hour to an hour late. The problem we're having now is getting crews in from other flights to do other flights.
jfklganyc From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 2706 posts, RR: 5 Reply 12, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 13814 times:
After a while it gets very old though.
It is one thing for the weather to be so bad at the moment that nothing can land. It is quite another thing when the weather was that bad 10 hours ago, it's marginal now, and we still can not scrap together anything resembling a semi-normal operation.
The entire northeast airspace and airport system is so poorly designed and overcapacity that it truly is disgusting. The fact that I have been flying for 13 years and there has not been 1 airspace improvement over NYC is simply amazing. Days like this just make you ask WHY????
goblin211 From United States of America, joined Jun 2010, 1209 posts, RR: 0 Reply 14, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 12924 times:
Speaking of rainfall, is it possible for Jamaica Bay to flood? How long before normal ops again if so?
working2gether From United States of America, joined Jan 2010, 83 posts, RR: 0 Reply 15, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 12248 times:
There's an Avianca A330 here at IAD that was diverted from JFK. Passengers and bags unloaded at IAD
Mir From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 19814 posts, RR: 56 Reply 17, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 12186 times:
Quoting goblin211 (Reply 14): Speaking of rainfall, is it possible for Jamaica Bay to flood? How long before normal ops again if so?
It's connected to the ocean directly, so I'd imagine it would take a heck of a lot of rain before that happened. We're talking feet of rain, not inches. You'd probably get taxiway flooding from ground saturation long before it got to that point. And yes, that would screw up ops quite a bit, though not entirely as long as the runways weren't under standing water.
-Mir
7 billion, one nation, imagination...it's a beautiful day
Airportugal310 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 3104 posts, RR: 2 Reply 18, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 11610 times:
Quoting jfklganyc (Reply 12): Days like this just make you ask WHY????
It's a funny thing isnt? I'm sure it has nothing to do with the NIMBY's (turn on your sarcasm radar...)
They are the first ones to complain about airspace redesigns, then the first to complain when their flights are delayed...
LGA777 From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 1102 posts, RR: 22 Reply 19, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 9879 times:
According to our local ABC stations weather broadcast tonight as of 1800L JFK had received 7 1/2 inches of rain today, more in one day since they started keeping records. We had a bad day at LGA but seen much worse. The rain turned light for part of the afternoon but got heavy again around dusk.
crAAzy From United States of America, joined Jan 2008, 591 posts, RR: 0 Reply 20, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 9111 times:
chumley From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 117 posts, RR: 0 Reply 21, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 7270 times:
24-hr Rainfall Totals reported by the National Weather Service at weather.gov/nyc:
(time of measurement)
plateman From United States of America, joined May 2007, 907 posts, RR: 0 Reply 22, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 6750 times:
Flew JFK-DCA tonight on AA3846 .... left gate about 20mins late at 9:20pm due to incompetent baggage handlers (pilot told us), but then went to penalty box at JFK as DCA had a ground stop, hit the ground stop due to the poor baggage handling.. Pilot listed 10:15pm as update time. That came with no update, but we had to move as JFK was switching ops.
Wound up on the long Europe block line about 10:30 and then cleared for takeoff at 11-ish. Direct route to DCA was not approved as had to land from south likely due to runway construction. Flight was unbelievably bumpy the entire way, I mean really, really bad. Landing about 12:30am.
Also when we landed at DCA, AA was on skeleton staffing so even though they knew we were coming, still had to wait about 10 mins for gate marshallers,
That's right .. 4hours on a CRJ700 to go from NY to DC and it was not a next gen plane, but a really old one. Legroom awful. No service due to the bumpiness (understandable). One of my worst flights ever. While AA cannot control the weather, they can control their staff, and their staff simply sucked on this flight and the inbound too.
On a side note, lots of very late arrivals at DCA. Metro is closed so cab line, no joke a couple hundred. I heard people saying they waited hour plus, and calling for a cab was also about an hour plus wait. Awful.
contrails15 From United States of America, joined Oct 2008, 1181 posts, RR: 0 Reply 23, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 3141 times:
Quoting plateman (Reply 22): Flew JFK-DCA tonight on AA3846 .... left gate about 20mins late at 9:20pm due to incompetent baggage handlers (pilot told us), but then went to penalty box at JFK as DCA had a ground stop, hit the ground stop due to the poor baggage handling.. Pilot listed 10:15pm as update time. That came with no update, but we had to move as JFK was switching ops.
How about an explanation if you have one instead of generally crapping on the ground staff which I'm sure were dealing with horrible conditions all day. I also doubt very much that the pilot told you the situation was due to incompetent baggage handlers. He might of said waiting for late bags which I'm sure was the case as there were tons of late arrivals but I highly doubt he blamed ground like that.
7478Contrails From Bahamas, joined Aug 2011, 3 posts, RR: 0 Reply 24, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 2953 times:
I flew in yesterday on DL 72 at around 2 pm...everything was running smoothly flight left on time...and even got in a little early....but from 37,000 feet till about 800 feet it was solid IFR...and we did get thrown around a bit but all in all it wasn't too bad...
25 jfklganyc: "How about an explanation if you have one instead of generally crapping on the ground staff which I'm sure were dealing with horrible conditions all d
26 washingtonian: Let's not forget there were delays on both ends too. DCA had quite heavy storms around 9-11 last night. Combined with storms in NY all day, and the b
27 plateman: Thank you sir, well said and pretty much it right on the head for what happened. Appreciate it. I actually had a train booked too since I was certain
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