MCO2BRS From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2007, 563 posts, RR: 0 Posted (3 years 11 months 3 weeks 2 days ago) and read 9510 times:
I was just looking at EK's future destinations and according to Wiki (yes, I know, I know) it looks like they only have BGW, EZE, GIG and LED starting in November and January. Given the amount of aircraft they have on order, it stands to reason that we will see a lot of new routes being opened (whether they are viable or not, is debatable) over the next few years. Does anyone have any insight as to where they may go next?
I was also checking out their route map, and there really does appear to be a 'hole' in the west/southwest of the UK. Given their track record, are we likely to see them start up CWL? This is the only airport capable of handling an EK aircraft in the vicinity of West and South Wales, and the southwest of the UK. The next nearest is BHX which is a 2hr drive away from most places in the region.
Other European routes I'd expect to see would be BCN, OSL, ARN. I don't know about the rest of the world though, any thoughts?
airbazar From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 9205 posts, RR: 10
Reply 10, posted (3 years 11 months 3 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 8214 times:
I don't expect any US expansing any time soon. MIA in 2013 maybe.
Why? EK's US traffic is predominantly connecting traffic to Central/South Asia and that traffic is stagnant right now due to the state of our economy. And depending on what happens following the next election that traffic could shrink even more if the US government decides to crack down on labor off-shoring (I know it's a long shot, but desperate times call for desperate measures and we've seen worse).
While I agree that where EK will fly next is a guessing game, I think that unless the PM of Canada meets Saul, who became Paul, YVR is highly unlikely. Recent signings with countries in South America lend hope (though no guarantees) in that region, given that it is a rapidly expanding region compared to Europe and the US.
Quoting miaintl (Reply 9): I also wonder when EK will start expanding in the US again.
So far the location of the US combined with popular destinations has inhibited growth. Too many parts of the world where travellers wish to go have been served by other airlines, not necessarily cheaper, with direct flights. EK has tried to overcome this with generous offers of stopovers including five star hotel, but with limited success. Travel to the US still attracts people from some destinations. For example, I came across a women in the oil industry in PER who was going to IAH. That's a bloody long way when she could have gone with QF and connected via SYD!
But it most surely wont be anywhere in the US, right? I have got my fingers crossed anyways though.
Well if they want it to start by Q1 2012 now seems good. Although I rhink it would be better to start MIA in the Winter around December to have a good traffic flow. Although KL started in March so EK would most likely probably aim to start there too. Either way EK's entrance into MIA is planned for one point in 2012. Just like TK. Although with both of them acting like somewhat Middle-Eastern Carriers I wonder if it's too much?
About EDI, as much as I would love to see EK at my local, GLA is about an hour's drive from EDI and NCL about an hour 45 or so and both those routes (particularly GLA) do very well. There is a lot of publicity for EK around Edinburgh first of all pushing their GLA route there and recently trying to fill up the 777s at NCL with EDI traffic (if they have swapped from the Airbuses yet). Only way I see EDI working financially is if they sacrifice GLA for it and that would be a very stupid move indeed.
Just looking at the route network for EK and they seem to have most major destinations around the world covered, if I were playing the armchair CEO game I would definitely send my planes to OSL, HEL and ARN however I don't know if there are good reasons EK are not there.
EGPH From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2006, 275 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (3 years 11 months 3 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 6572 times:
Add BRU to the list of gaps, it is certainly an imortant city in the European context but I don't know if it is so important to travellers to Europe from the Middle East.
If I may ask an EK related question, I see that EK fly to both LHR and LGW. Is this just because of the very different connection opportunities offered at both airports? I always thought LHR/LGW as an either or thing not both.
mainMAN From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2005, 2117 posts, RR: 5
Reply 21, posted (3 years 11 months 3 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 6219 times:
Quoting EGPH (Reply 19): Is this just because of the very different connection opportunities offered at both airports? I always thought LHR/LGW as an either or thing not both.
No, it's because EK is so huge for connections from most major UK airports (well, 6 of them) to the East. With the exception of Vietnam Airlines and Air Asia X, LGW only has EK to link it to Asia/Australia whereas it once had a variety of different carriers (including majors like CX).
I wonder whether EK might one day introduce STN too.
directorguy From Egypt, joined Jul 2008, 1809 posts, RR: 10
Reply 23, posted (3 years 11 months 3 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 5999 times:
Flydubai seems to be doing well. They've added all sorts of destinations, routes that are low-yielding, low frequency but nevertheless help fuel the wider EK network.
I feel that EK really needs to start focusing on certain regions, particularly China. When QR or EY open up a destination with an A320 that EK doesn't fly to, I usually say 'oh well, too small for an A332 anyway'. Well QR especially has been adding new cities with the A330 and are reaping the benefits. I'd say at least 2-3 Chinese new cities by the end of 2013 (if not sooner) in addition to consolidating existing Chinese markets.
In addition, many cities in Europe to expand to.LIS, BCN, BRU, ARN, DUB to name a few.I'd say a new round of UK secondary markets would also be in order. The UK has large ties with Dubai and Australia/India and there seems to be a lot of goodwill when it comes to allowing EK in to secondary ports in the UK.
Also, EK should always keep focusing on the Indian market. EK has a huge presence there obviously, but it can always become bigger. Possibly relying on an Indian carrier to feed DXB with a fleet of flexible 737s or A320s would be a good idea.
Regarding an increased US presence-I think it's a matter of time. QR thankfully hasn't ventured out to the West Coast-yet, which means EK should focus on a 2nd daily to SFO and maybe opening up DXB-SEA. ORD & MIA are strong candidates.
LondonCity From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2008, 1592 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (3 years 11 months 3 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 5722 times:
Quoting EGPH (Reply 19): Add BRU to the list of gaps, it is certainly an imortant city in the European context but I don't know if it is so important to travellers to Europe from the Middle East.
AMS was a much-needed gap in EK's schedule. EK only commenced flights there in May last year. Travellers based in and around the Brussels/Antwerp area can easily access AMS by high-speed train running directly into Schiphol.
Quoting mainMAN (Reply 21): I wonder whether EK might one day introduce STN too.
EK has no immediate plane to serve STN ... but who knows ? See this news link dated July 2010: