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JAL To Boston On 787 In April 2012  
User currently offlinevulindlela744 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 520 posts, RR: 0
Posted (3 years 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 13966 times:

Japan Airlines has announced that their first route with the 787 will be Boston to Narita beginning April 22, 2012. They stated in their press release that it would be available for booking on there website, however you still can't book it on JAL's website. Does anyone know why?

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User currently offlineBOStonsox From United States of America, joined Dec 2007, 1989 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (3 years 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 13927 times:

I am very excited to see this. I can't seem to book any flights either. Maybe the booking system is being updated for this flight?


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User currently offlineSonomaFlyer From United States of America, joined Apr 2010, 1762 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (3 years 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 13728 times:
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Its because all of you ANetters are jamming their website to book the flight!

User currently offlineha763 From United States of America, joined Jan 2003, 3655 posts, RR: 5
Reply 3, posted (3 years 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 13363 times:
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Where exactly is the problem? I have no problem pulling up the flights on both the American region and Japanese websites' online booking systems. I went all the way up to the purchase screen with no problems.

User currently offlineAsiaflyer From Singapore, joined May 2007, 1133 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (3 years 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 13222 times:

Shouldn't the thread title be changed to "JAL to Boston" ?

AFAIK JAL is based at NRT so all their 787 will, at least initially, go to NRT.   



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User currently offlineBOStonsox From United States of America, joined Dec 2007, 1989 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (3 years 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 13149 times:

Ok, I've been able to get in now, I got stuck at the first screen and didn't make much effort last time.


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User currently offlineScanorama From Australia, joined Jan 2005, 115 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (3 years 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 11983 times:

Quoting Asiaflyer (Reply 4):
AFAIK JAL is based at NRT so all their 787 will, at least initially, go to NRT

lol my thought exactly!  


User currently offlineRaptors From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2005, 180 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (3 years 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 11843 times:

Have any of the other carriers release their 787 schedules yet by any chance? I am off to Japan in October and would serioulsy consider a domestic flight if ANA use them on those routes initially.


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User currently offlinejfk777 From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 8325 posts, RR: 7
Reply 8, posted (3 years 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 11816 times:
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Quoting vulindlela744 (Thread starter):
Japan Airlines has announced that their first route with the 787 will be Boston to Narita beginning April 22, 2012. They stated in their press release that it would be available for booking on there website, however you still can't book it on JAL's website. Does anyone know why?

JAL has been talking about flying to Boston since 1990, they even open an office near the Boston Common back then. Couldn't a 777 3 time a week have been do able ?


User currently offlinegemuser From Australia, joined Nov 2003, 5629 posts, RR: 6
Reply 9, posted (3 years 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 11606 times:

Quoting jfk777 (Reply 8):
Couldn't a 777 3 time a week have been do able ?

And make money? Probably not because its too big for the traffic on offer, uses more fuel and three times a week does not attract premium passengers.

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User currently offlineordjoe From United States of America, joined Aug 2010, 695 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (3 years 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 11529 times:

I could see the 787 being able to pull this route off. Boston has a good deal of tech, finance, biotech, and academia that could fill those F and J seats

User currently offlineUAL747 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (3 years 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 11440 times:

Does KE still fly to BOS? Are they planning a return if not? I remember back in my college days they flew the 744 into BOS.

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User currently offlinezrs70 From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 3164 posts, RR: 9
Reply 12, posted (3 years 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 11313 times:

Quoting ordjoe (Reply 10):
Boston has a good deal of tech, finance, biotech, and academia that could fill those F and J seats

True. If only there were F seats available on this particular route!!!!!!



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User currently offlineAirFrance744 From United States of America, joined Aug 2009, 80 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (3 years 2 days ago) and read 10857 times:

Quoting UAL747 (Reply 11):
Does KE still fly to BOS? Are they planning a return if not? I remember back in my college days they flew the 744 into BOS.

IIRC, KE pulled out in 2005. Their flight had always been via IAD, and they found that the flight was no longer economically feasible to keep flying a very empty 744 into/out of BOS. I have not heard anything about KE coming back.



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User currently offlineLipeGIG From Brazil, joined May 2005, 11429 posts, RR: 58
Reply 14, posted (3 years 2 days ago) and read 10789 times:
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Topic changed.

Lets please continue the discussion on JAL development of the 787 route to BOS.


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User currently offlinesomething From United Kingdom, joined May 2011, 1633 posts, RR: 21
Reply 15, posted (3 years 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 10261 times:

I am happy to see BOS gain new service to Japan. For some reason though I have my doubts about the viability of this route. They don't have a very lucky hand with intercontinental flights.


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User currently offlinekgaiflyer From United States of America, joined Jul 2008, 4262 posts, RR: 1
Reply 16, posted (3 years 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 9975 times:
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Quoting something (Reply 15):
They don't have a very lucky hand with intercontinental flights.

You mean flights to the Pacifiic rim, don't you?

Flights to Europe and the mid-Atlantic islands (the Azores and the Cape Verde archipelago) have had a great deal of success.  yes 

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User currently offlineN766UA From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 8228 posts, RR: 23
Reply 17, posted (3 years 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 9861 times:

Quoting gemuser (Reply 9):
Probably not because its too big for the traffic on offer

Judging by the number of Asian tourists I see in Boston, you'd think they could fill dozens of 747s. I think it's about time there was a nonstop to the continent!



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User currently offlineluckyone From United States of America, joined exactly 6 years ago today! , 2168 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (3 years 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 9709 times:

Quoting N766UA (Reply 17):

Judging by the number of Asian tourists I see in Boston, you'd think they could fill dozens of 747s. I think it's about time there was a nonstop to the continent!

I'd imagine that many of them simply add a few days in Boston to a trip to New York. As such they either take the train or a domestic flight o Boston (or another area airport) and fly intercontinental in and out of a New York airport.


User currently offlineordjoe From United States of America, joined Aug 2010, 695 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (3 years 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 9632 times:

Quoting zrs70 (Reply 12):
True. If only there were F seats available on this particular route!!!!!!

No F on the 787, that is too bad, but if it better business wise then that is needed.


User currently offlinevulindlela744 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 520 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (3 years 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 7571 times:

Felipe, I'd really like you to explain your reasoning for changing the title of my topic. If you read my post you would know that I was asking about BOS NRT. Not the other way around. Please leave my posts alone. Thank you

User currently offlineB777LRF From Luxembourg, joined Nov 2008, 1326 posts, RR: 3
Reply 21, posted (3 years 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 7466 times:

Quoting vulindlela744 (Reply 20):
If you read my post you would know that I was asking about BOS NRT. Not the other way around.

Considering where JAL is based, logically the route will be Narita to Boston - not the other way around.



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User currently offlinevulindlela744 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 520 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (3 years 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 7364 times:

Once again, if you people would read my original post the question was about not being able to book on JAL.com from Boston to Tokyo. That I why the topic was titled Bos to Tokyo. I can't figure out why no one can seem to understand that

User currently offlineThe Coachman From Australia, joined Apr 2001, 1428 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (3 years 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 6882 times:

Quoting luckyone (Reply 18):
I'd imagine that many of them simply add a few days in Boston to a trip to New York. As such they either take the train or a domestic flight o Boston (or another area airport) and fly intercontinental in and out of a New York airport.

Even if that were the case, this gives those tourists a chance to fly into BOS and then make their way to NYC (or vv) without having to pay for and waste time on 2 journeys (either on the bus, plane or train).



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User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 32691 posts, RR: 72
Reply 24, posted (3 years 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 6575 times:

Quoting gemuser (Reply 9):
Quoting jfk777 (Reply 8):
Couldn't a 777 3 time a week have been do able ?

And make money? Probably not because its too big for the traffic on offer, uses more fuel and three times a week does not attract premium passengers.

A 777 is not too big for BOSTYO, which is a decent market, larger than many with current TYO service like DAL, MSP and HOU.



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25 chrisnh : I would also imagine that JAL will do quite well selling seats into Boston during the peak foliage season. I know Montreal gets some interesting fligh
26 Post contains images gemuser : Arguable. Remember I was replying to post 8 which was for a three per week service. A B777 would be too big for such a service because there are so m
27 QANTAS747-438 : Wasn't this announced several months ago? I already knew JAL was bring the 787 into BOS but don't recall when it was announced.
28 AA94 : I believe you're right. I don't remember exactly where I saw the news, but this isn't anything immediately new ...
29 ikramerica : Because you left the word BOSTON or BOS out of the freaking thread title. It made no sense. Now, had you titled it correctly, you'd have a point. Rat
30 Post contains links VS11 : Not only is the BOS-NRT flight bookable on JAL US website: http://www.ar.jal.com/en/ but it is also bookable on AA.com
31 ordjoe : So nice to see the 787's getting loaded into the schedules.
32 jc2354 : A bit off topic, but why didn't NW, or anybody, try the route with the A330-200? the range, per the Airbus website, is 7250nm. And great circle shows
33 Post contains images airbazar : He's got a point there Not only did you guys change the title to something totally irrelevant to his question, but once you did that the discussion i
34 gemuser : IMHO no he has not. First sentence of original post: QUOTE Japan Airlines has announced that their first route with the 787 will be Boston to Narita
35 LAXdude1023 : Those are all hubs that funnel connecting passengers. BOS doesn't have the connections. Since this flight is aimed at O&D, the 787 is perfect.
36 MAV88 : This is a great route for the Boston area, which is quite large and is a very important business market. Hopefully this route works well and BOS event
37 vulindlela744 : Gemuser, the whole reason I started the topic and named it the way I did was because I want to book from BOS to NRT. I was simply asking any a.netters
38 AA767LOVER : IMHO, I don't see this as a money-maker. I bet you JAL will eventually re-filter back through JFK or ORD. But let's see how it turns out. I feel iffy
39 Post contains images airbazar : He was setting up his question, which was never about whether the 787 was the approapriat aircraft, or the route was going to be profitable or anythi
40 Viscount724 : Your numbers are statute miles, not nm. BOS-NRT is 5823 nm. BOS-NRT is beyond economic A332 range. Manufacturer range figures don't consider winds (w
41 MAV88 : Why is that?
42 BoeingGuy : Great to see the 787 doing what it does best - enabling new non-stop routes to be offered and flown profitably. What about the AA/JL joint venture add
43 commavia : Strategically, I think SEA-NRT is now by far the largest hole in the combined AA/JL U.S.-Japan/Asia network - and I think AA and JL both know it. I,
44 ER757 : Both carriers have flown the route in the past. JL used to make it a stop on their NRT/ATL/NRT run. Once they got 744's, they could fly it non-stop b
45 BoeingGuy : Yeah, I've flown that flight several times. It was discontinued in about November 2001, soon after 9/11. SJC-NRT held on until 2006. I can't speak fo
46 vulindlela744 : Thank-you Airbazar. Obviously there are a few us on here with some sense.
47 jc2354 : Viscount,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,thank you very much for helping me understand. I had thought of BOS-NRT as pretty much a north-south routing and winds
48 Post contains links airbazar : The westbound route does go due north, just shy of it being a polar route, and the eastbound route will be a slightly more southerly route in order t
49 dynamicsguy : You may have intended to write it, but BOS was not in the original thread title.
50 jc2354 : Thanks Airbazar, I appreciate your contribution.
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