CALPSAFltSkeds From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 2203 posts, RR: 7 Reply 5, posted (1 year 9 months 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 1416 times:
Quoting kgaiflyer (Reply 4): Quoting Arcrftlvr (Reply 3):
I wonder why wouldn't they have flown into SNA?
(1)-Couldn't get a pair of slots.
(2)-RON spaces at SNA all full up.
(3)-Keeping a low profile (the O's are not exactly having a winning year )
(4) Operational performance from SNA with lots of equipment.
If you look at a map SNA, isn't more than 3-4 miles shorter than LGB from the Big A. Both are under 15 miles from the Big A.
Didn't it leave at 5pm for MSP? RON wouldn't be necessary.
Quoting CALPSAFltSkeds (Reply 5): If you look at a map SNA, isn't more than 3-4 miles shorter than LGB from the Big A. Both are under 15 miles from the Big A.
If I were a bus driver, I'd want avoid the 405 at all costs. Even on a Sunday afternoon. I'd much rather go to Anaheim from the Costa Mesa/Santa Ana area than Long Beach any day.
pgtravel From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 445 posts, RR: 3 Reply 7, posted (1 year 9 months 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 1319 times:
Quoting Arcrftlvr (Reply 6): Slots at LGB seem like it would be more difficult to come by then at SNA? No?
Slots are only for regularly scheduled commercial ops at LGB, so it's not an issue. There are charters all the time for a variety of reasons.
Quoting Arcrftlvr (Reply 6): If I were a bus driver, I'd want avoid the 405 at all costs. Even on a Sunday afternoon. I'd much rather go to Anaheim from the Costa Mesa/Santa Ana area than Long Beach any day.
You don't need the 405. You can shoot straight down the 91 to the 5 from LGB. Regardless, on a Sunday afternoon none of those will be a problem.
It could very well be an issue of cost and service. LGB is a lower cost airport than SNA and I imagine that there are better facilities available for handling the charter.
LAXintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 22027 posts, RR: 51 Reply 9, posted (1 year 9 months 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 1244 times:
As mentioned by pgtravel LGB sees a fair number of charters as such ops do-not require need slots. They only need to abide by the curfew, and follow the noise regulations.
Operations of charters at SNA is not possible as you'd need to free up a slot to do it. SNA slot regime considers air-carrier ops, scheduled or charter as one and the same.
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Arcrftlvr From United States of America, joined Nov 2006, 782 posts, RR: 0 Reply 10, posted (1 year 9 months 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 1000 times:
Quoting pgtravel (Reply 7): You don't need the 405. You can shoot straight down the 91 to the 5 from LGB. Regardless, on a Sunday afternoon none of those will be a problem.
On the contrary, you have to take the 405 at some point to get to another freeway (710 or 605 - although the 605 makes the most sense) to get to the 91. It's out of the way considering the 405 to the 22 to the 5 is the most direct. And even on a Sunday, the Orange Crush is terrible. I should know. I live in Long Beach and work in Anaheim. Unfortunately, I'm all too familiar with the horrific traffic patterns around that area.
kgaiflyer From United States of America, joined Jul 2008, 3648 posts, RR: 1 Reply 11, posted (1 year 9 months 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 964 times:
Quoting Arcrftlvr (Reply 10): Quoting pgtravel (Reply 7):You don't need the 405. You can shoot straight down the 91 to the 5 from LGB. Regardless, on a Sunday afternoon none of those will be a problem.
On the contrary, you have to take the 405 at some point to get to another freeway (710 or 605 - although the 605 makes the most sense) to get to the 91. It's out of the way considering the 405 to the 22 to the 5 is the most direct. And even on a Sunday, the Orange Crush is terrible. I should know. I live in Long Beach and work in Anaheim. Unfortunately, I'm all too familiar with the horrific traffic patterns around that area.
Yeah, I sort of agree.
SNA is inside a square bordered by the 55, the 73, the 405, and MacArthur Boulevard. The north-end RON at SNA abuts the 405.
pgtravel From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 445 posts, RR: 3 Reply 12, posted (1 year 9 months 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 913 times:
Quoting Arcrftlvr (Reply 10): On the contrary, you have to take the 405 at some point to get to another freeway (710 or 605 - although the 605 makes the most sense) to get to the 91. It's out of the way considering the 405 to the 22 to the 5 is the most direct.
Nope, you just shoot straight up Lakewood to the 91 from LGB.
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2)-RON spaces at SNA all full up.
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