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Rumor: Danish CAA Has Grounded 10 SAS MDs  
User currently offlineAirPacific747 From Denmark, joined May 2008, 2314 posts, RR: 21
Posted (2 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 9720 times:

I heard from a reliable source that the Danish CAA has grounded 10 SAS MDs today, probably due to maintenance issues. The story is not out in the media yet, but I guess they will quickly find out if true.

I cannot identify my source, though, as this, as I said, is still unofficial.

[Edited 2011-08-23 12:26:06]

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User currently offlineSomeone83 From Norway, joined Sep 2006, 3173 posts, RR: 3
Reply 1, posted (2 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 9523 times:

Ifthey grounded, why isn't there more flights cancelled or delayed at CPH today? Just wen't through the list at SAS had 5 cnx oday, of which 3 seems to be due a CRJ-900 struggling today, but those cancellations appeared in the morning anf afternook. In addition, a A321 roundtrip to ARN was anelled due to tech

Not saying your wrong, but their MDs are flying right now!


User currently offlinekaitak From Ireland, joined Aug 1999, 12322 posts, RR: 35
Reply 2, posted (2 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 9485 times:

Quoting Someone83 (Reply 1):
Not saying your wrong, but their MDs are flying right now!

These could be LN- and SE- registered aircraft; presumably the Danish CAA would only ground OY- registered aircraft?


User currently offlineAirPacific747 From Denmark, joined May 2008, 2314 posts, RR: 21
Reply 3, posted (2 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 9390 times:

Quoting Someone83 (Reply 1):
Ifthey grounded, why isn't there more flights cancelled or delayed at CPH today? Just wen't through the list at SAS had 5 cnx oday, of which 3 seems to be due a CRJ-900 struggling today, but those cancellations appeared in the morning anf afternook. In addition, a A321 roundtrip to ARN was anelled due to tech

They have tried to lease aircraft from elsewhere...


User currently offlineSomeone83 From Norway, joined Sep 2006, 3173 posts, RR: 3
Reply 4, posted (2 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 9362 times:

Quoting AirPacific747 (Reply 3):


They have tried to lease aircraft from elsewhere...

They wouldn't be able to get any aircraft on such a short notice, and looking there are this evening not any non-SAS aircraft operating for SAS from CPH, except for the 4 Cimber CRJ-200

So if they are being grounded, they not been parked yet


User currently offlineSomeone83 From Norway, joined Sep 2006, 3173 posts, RR: 3
Reply 5, posted (2 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 9303 times:

Quoting kaitak (Reply 2):


These could be LN- and SE- registered aircraft; presumably the Danish CAA would only ground OY- registered aircraft?


OY-KHU, and MD87, took of for BGO less than one hour ago, so those are also flying.


User currently offlineAirPacific747 From Denmark, joined May 2008, 2314 posts, RR: 21
Reply 6, posted (2 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 9303 times:

Quoting Someone83 (Reply 4):
They wouldn't be able to get any aircraft on such a short notice, and looking there are this evening not any non-SAS aircraft operating for SAS from CPH, except for the 4 Cimber CRJ-200

So if they are being grounded, they not been parked yet

I'm trying to get more info on the matter. You could be right, but I doubt that I would get this information if it wasn't right.. as you said, maybe they are not actually grounded yet, but will be soon.

I heard that it is MD80s that are affected, but as I heard this from one person who heard it from another, I guess it is difficult to confirm. (Both sources working in the aviation industry)

[Edited 2011-08-23 13:16:33]

User currently offlineDahlgardo From Denmark, joined Sep 2004, 128 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (2 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day ago) and read 8439 times:

Quoting AirPacific747 (Reply 6):
I'm trying to get more info on the matter. You could be right, but I doubt that I would get this information if it wasn't right.. as you said, maybe they are not actually grounded yet, but will be soon.

I heard that it is MD80s that are affected, but as I heard this from one person who heard it from another, I guess it is difficult to confirm. (Both sources working in the aviation industry)

As of this morning both LN- , OY- and SE- MD80s are flying.



Nothing to say
User currently offlineCoal From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 1945 posts, RR: 9
Reply 8, posted (2 years 7 months 4 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 6368 times:

http://www.economist.com/blogs/gulliver/2011/08/flight-delays

Apparently they found a mouse in the cabin. Simple solution: Install cat.

  

Cheers
Coal



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User currently offlineSASDC8 From Norway, joined Mar 2006, 699 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (2 years 7 months 4 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 6334 times:
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Quoting AirPacific747 (Reply 6):
I'm trying to get more info on the matter. You could be right, but I doubt that I would get this information if it wasn't right.. as you said, maybe they are not actually grounded yet, but will be soon.

If the Danish CAA grounds planes would they not do that with immediate effect? I mean if there are safety issues with the aircraft, I doubt they would let them fly until it suites the airline to fix them?

No cancelled SK flights today, except from the flights that should have been operated by the above mentioned CRJ.



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User currently offlineFerroviarius From Norway, joined Mar 2007, 214 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (2 years 7 months 4 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 6268 times:

Quoting AirPacific747 (Thread starter):
I cannot identify my source, though, as this, as I said, is still unofficial.

Is that source affiliated to Ryan Air?


User currently offlineairbuseric From Netherlands, joined Jan 2005, 4207 posts, RR: 51
Reply 11, posted (2 years 7 months 4 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 6230 times:

If the Danish CAA found issues regarding maintenance, which would result in grounding, then they would be grounded immediately and not 'after another few flights'. Because that would raise questions to the safety of the passengers, crew and people on the ground... So, if there are no visible operational troubles in the SAS network as we speak, we can be quite certain indeed that the MD80's are not grounded and operating normally.


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User currently offlineAirPacific747 From Denmark, joined May 2008, 2314 posts, RR: 21
Reply 12, posted (2 years 7 months 4 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 5666 times:

Quoting Ferroviarius (Reply 10):

Is that source affiliated to Ryan Air?

No.

I was told SAS has called other airlines to try to get a replacement for the grounded aircraft. I was also told that it was a replacement for 10 MD80s. And that is all I was told.

As there is still no evidence that what I was told is correct, then all we can do is wait for someone else to confirm this (including the media) However, the people I got the info from, should know all this first hand, if true. That's why I was so certain that the info was true.


User currently offlineNavigator From Sweden, joined Jul 2001, 1144 posts, RR: 14
Reply 13, posted (2 years 7 months 4 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 4268 times:

Quoting AirPacific747 (Thread starter):
I heard from a reliable source that the Danish CAA has grounded 10 SAS MDs today, probably due to maintenance issues. The story is not out in the media yet, but I guess they will quickly find out if true.

The Danish CAA does not have the authority to do anything like this alone. Only on danish registered planes. SAS operations are supervised by something called OPS Utvalget, a cooperation between the Danish, Norwegian and Swedish CAA.This is because SAS is a scandinavian operation rather than only danish. Any actions are taken together with Norwegian and swedish CAA:s within this framework. So the headline in itself is wrong.

[Edited 2011-08-24 09:39:49]


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User currently offlineSomeone83 From Norway, joined Sep 2006, 3173 posts, RR: 3
Reply 14, posted (2 years 7 months 4 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 3874 times:

Quoting AirPacific747 (Reply 12):
I was told SAS has called other airlines to try to get a replacement for the grounded aircraft. I was also told that it was a replacement for 10 MD80s. And that is all I was told.

You are correct that SAS has contacted other airlines lately, and the last days JetTime has been doing some flight for them.

But this is not due to any grounding of the MD fleet, but SAS struggling with "long-term" snag on one A321, one CRJ-900 and one MD-80, on their CPH base. This maybe solve the misunderstanding?

Afaik one 737 from the OSL base ha also been helping out lately


User currently online7673mech From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 696 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (2 years 7 months 4 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 3099 times:
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You really should be more responsible with your posts.
A friend of a friend should not qualify for a post.


User currently offlineSASDC8 From Norway, joined Mar 2006, 699 posts, RR: 1
Reply 16, posted (2 years 7 months 4 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 2847 times:
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Quoting Someone83 (Reply 14):
You are correct that SAS has contacted other airlines lately, and the last days JetTime has been doing some flight for them.

Thanks for clarifying with your wast knowledge of Scandinavian aviation  

You are now on my respected members list.



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