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Interjet Applies For MEX-MIA/NYC/SAT  
User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 32781 posts, RR: 72
Posted (3 years 3 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 4200 times:

Today Inerjet applied with DOT for the temporary authority to operate from Mexico City to Miami, New York City and San Antonio.

If Mexicana re-starts service on these routes, then Interjet must forfeit the authorities back to Mexicana.


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User currently offlineFly-K From Germany, joined May 2000, 3153 posts, RR: 51
Reply 1, posted (3 years 3 weeks 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 4088 times:
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User currently offlinepylon101 From Russia, joined Feb 2008, 1554 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (3 years 3 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 4049 times:

No kidding. That's why they ordered SSJ-100 and SSJ-100LR.

User currently onlineMexicana757 From United States of America, joined Apr 2001, 3042 posts, RR: 28
Reply 3, posted (3 years 3 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 3861 times:

About time Interjet decides to jump on Mexico-USA market. Three good routes to request. Now we know why DGAC denied VivaAerobus MEX-SAT and MEX-MIA, Interjet jumped in before they did.

User currently offlineN623JB From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 703 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (3 years 3 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 3819 times:

Quoting MAH4546 (Thread starter):

MEX-JFK? Its about time. I have been waiting for this for weeks already. Im looking forward to seeing them here.



Bring JetBlue To Mexico City! (TLC and/or MEX would be great)
User currently onlineMexicana757 From United States of America, joined Apr 2001, 3042 posts, RR: 28
Reply 5, posted (3 years 3 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 3801 times:

Quoting N623JB (Reply 4):
MEX-JFK? Its about time

It can be either EWR or JFK, since on their application it just says New York City. The airline doesn't specify which airport they will be flying to but most likely it will be JFK.


User currently offlineN623JB From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 703 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (3 years 3 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 3777 times:

Quoting Mexicana757 (Reply 5):

I agree that it will most likely be JFK, because Mexicana came to JFK when they were flying to "NYC". So my guesses are with JFK.



Bring JetBlue To Mexico City! (TLC and/or MEX would be great)
User currently offlineEddieDude From Mexico, joined Nov 2003, 7582 posts, RR: 42
Reply 7, posted (3 years 3 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 3777 times:

Quoting pylon101 (Reply 2):
That's why they ordered SSJ-100 and SSJ-100LR.

Will Interjet still take delivery of the SSJ's considering that their IPO did not happen?



Next flights: MEX-GRU (AM 77E), GRU-GIG (JJ A320), SDU-CGH (G3 73H), GRU-MEX (JJ A332).
User currently offlinepylon101 From Russia, joined Feb 2008, 1554 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (3 years 3 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 3757 times:

I am sorry. What IPO is supposed to mean?

User currently offlineN623JB From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 703 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (3 years 3 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 3720 times:

Quoting pylon101 (Reply 8):

I believe IPO stands for Initial Public Offering.



Bring JetBlue To Mexico City! (TLC and/or MEX would be great)
User currently offlinepylon101 From Russia, joined Feb 2008, 1554 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (3 years 3 weeks 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 3687 times:

As far as I know InterJet order is finalized and first 2 aircraft will be delivered in 2012.
I would consider it a priority order as it is the first one in America.
I even suggested on a Russian forum to paint the machine going to MEX for high altitude tests in InterJet colors.


User currently offlineEddieDude From Mexico, joined Nov 2003, 7582 posts, RR: 42
Reply 11, posted (3 years 3 weeks 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 3627 times:

Quoting pylon101 (Reply 10):
As far as I know InterJet order is finalized and first 2 aircraft will be delivered in 2012.
I would consider it a priority order as it is the first one in America.
I even suggested on a Russian forum to paint the machine going to MEX for high altitude tests in InterJet colors.

The thing is that the proceeds that Interjet was going to receive from the primary portion of its initial public offering were going to be used for purposes of paying for these birds. Since the offering did not happen, Interjet is not receiving fresh cash in the form of equity contributions, and therefore might not have the money to pay for the SSJs. Of course it could use cash on hand (if it has enough), defer the deliveries, take a loan or do a sale-and-leaseback deal, but that is another story.



Next flights: MEX-GRU (AM 77E), GRU-GIG (JJ A320), SDU-CGH (G3 73H), GRU-MEX (JJ A332).
User currently offlinepylon101 From Russia, joined Feb 2008, 1554 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (3 years 3 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 3574 times:

Thanks for updating, Eddie.
And why IPO didn't happen? And what is the financial state and prospects of the airline?
Here in Russia we obviously see a simplified picture: Mexicana is out of business - more opportunities for InterJet.
But we have no idea what financial group(s)/individuals are behind.


User currently offlineLoneStarMike From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 3826 posts, RR: 33
Reply 13, posted (3 years 3 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 3550 times:

Quoting Mexicana757 (Reply 3):
About time Interjet decides to jump on Mexico-USA market.

They applied for some (different) Mexico-USA routes over three years ago.

InterJet Applies For US Routes (by LatinAviation Jun 20 2008 in Civil Aviation)

I can't remember if they were approved or not, but at any rate, I don't think they started any of the routes they applied for back in 2008.

LoneStarMike


User currently offlineLAXintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 25358 posts, RR: 49
Reply 14, posted (3 years 3 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 3533 times:

The docket number for this is OST-2011-0159

Interjet request per Mexican DGAC notice is for 1-year temporary route authority on the routes or until such time the Mexicana BK case is resolved and either MX resumes service, or the authorities are freed up for official reallocation by DGAC.

Quoting LoneStarMike (Reply 13):
I can't remember if they were approved or not, but at any rate, I don't think they started any of the routes they applied for back in 2008.

Indeed they were. More specifically they hold authority to serve the following markets but have failed to act.

Toluca, Mexico - Ontario, California
Toluca, Mexico - Houston, Texas
Toluca, Mexico - San Antonio, Texas
Guadalajara, Mexico - Houston, Texas
Monterrey, Mexico - Houston, Texas.



From the desert to the sea, to all of Southern California
User currently offlineEddieDude From Mexico, joined Nov 2003, 7582 posts, RR: 42
Reply 15, posted (3 years 3 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 3504 times:

Quoting pylon101 (Reply 12):
And why IPO didn't happen?

Pricing. And that markets are very turbulent. Plus, I personally think they made a poor choice of domestic bookrunners.

Quoting pylon101 (Reply 12):
And what is the financial state and prospects of the airline?

In my uneducated opinion, I'd say their prospects are good. Their domestic market share is growing very nicely, and they seem to have positioned themselves very well in the market thanks to their generous seat pitch, and the free beer and snacks on board. As for their financial state, I never had time to read the MD&A in the prospectus and the financial statements, but I understand from other a.netters that Interjet is profitable.



Next flights: MEX-GRU (AM 77E), GRU-GIG (JJ A320), SDU-CGH (G3 73H), GRU-MEX (JJ A332).
User currently offlinepylon101 From Russia, joined Feb 2008, 1554 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (3 years 3 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 3484 times:

Thanks, Eddie.
There was some slots swap for 2012-2013 which we here could not explain.
I can imagine that InterJet could delay delivery. But there were no leaks from Sukhoi.


User currently offlineDavidCA From Canada, joined Jun 2009, 69 posts, RR: 4
Reply 17, posted (3 years 3 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 3327 times:

I think I have read here that AM's US/Canadian operation isn't profitable, so I hope that NYC and MIA work well for Interjet if they get approval and decide to act on it. They have so far been very cautious about expanding beyond Mexico. Any info on how GUA and HAV are doing for them?

How about Volaris? It is believed to be in good financial shape also?


User currently offlineEddieDude From Mexico, joined Nov 2003, 7582 posts, RR: 42
Reply 18, posted (3 years 3 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 3258 times:

Quoting DavidCA (Reply 17):
I think I have read here that AM's US/Canadian operation isn't profitable

Correct. AM breaks up its revenues, profits, load factors, number of pax, etc. by region, and U.S./Canada are in the red. However, income soared from H1 2010 to H1 2011 (probably due to MX's demise), and the losses narrowed a lot. Hopefully this trend will continue and soon they will be at breakeven and eventually make profits. The DL alliance should help.

Quoting DavidCA (Reply 17):
How about Volaris? It is believed to be in good financial shape also?

No idea. Volaris is not required to disclose its results and financial information to the public, so there is no way of knowing.



Next flights: MEX-GRU (AM 77E), GRU-GIG (JJ A320), SDU-CGH (G3 73H), GRU-MEX (JJ A332).
User currently offlineFyano773 From Mexico, joined Mar 2004, 784 posts, RR: 1
Reply 19, posted (3 years 3 weeks 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 3120 times:

Quoting pylon101 (Reply 12):
And why IPO didn't happen? And what is the financial state and prospects of the airline?
Here in Russia we obviously see a simplified picture: Mexicana is out of business - more opportunities for InterJet.
But we have no idea what financial group(s)/individuals are behind.

A syndicated loan is underway to meet cash shortages. When the IPO was launched, the company had only 30M in cash and debt with short maturity, requiring payment within the year.

According to Reuters, investors feared the incorporation of the Sukhoi's because operations would turn complex, citing (non) commonality with current 320s planes as the issue of concern:

http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/.../30/interjet-idUSN1E75T1AC20110630

Perhaps, that's the reason they differed some deliveries into 2013? What was the original plan?

Regards...

[Edited 2011-08-25 07:21:47]

User currently offlinepylon101 From Russia, joined Feb 2008, 1554 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (3 years 3 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 3068 times:

The start of deliveries was supposed to be in 2012.
The argument of commonality is always useful - but not always right.
A-319 compared to SSJ-100 is too heavy, too expensive and consumes more fuel.


User currently offlinepylon101 From Russia, joined Feb 2008, 1554 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (3 years 3 weeks 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 2974 times:

In the meantime the second Aeroflot SSJ was delivered.
I think they would look great in InterJet colors!



User currently offlineN623JB From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 703 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (3 years 3 weeks 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 2969 times:

Quoting pylon101 (Reply 21):

I wonder what the Sukhoi equivalent would be? the E190? It reminds me of a E190. It does look smaller than a A320.



Bring JetBlue To Mexico City! (TLC and/or MEX would be great)
User currently offlinepylon101 From Russia, joined Feb 2008, 1554 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (3 years 3 weeks 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 2935 times:

The closest equivalent is really E-190.
But SSJ features 2+3 seating (18.2" at 32") and 8% fuel economy.



User currently offlineN623JB From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 703 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (3 years 3 weeks 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 2929 times:

Quoting pylon101 (Reply 23):

No offense to the seating, but it looks uneven lol.



Bring JetBlue To Mexico City! (TLC and/or MEX would be great)
25 pylon101 : It's an old picture I had here on site. It was in testing... All interiors are made by BEA, FL, USA.
26 N623JB : I hope they make it 3 -3 seating and not 3-2 seating.(uneven)
27 EddieDude : For starters, 3-3 would not fit inside the SSJ fuselage. Second, why do you want a less comfortable seating config? The great thing about Mad Dogs, J
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