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Airbus A380 Testing Terminal 5 @ LHR  
User currently offline767eng From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2010, 49 posts, RR: 0
Posted (3 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 12527 times:

I hear BA are testing ground ops on the A380 at the weekend using one of the Airbus test aircraft which will also be at the customer and staff open day.

Anyone know when it's planned to touch down and when it's planning to fly back?

[Edited 2011-08-31 15:30:03]

[Edited 2011-08-31 15:30:20]

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User currently offlineBabybus From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (3 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 12328 times:

Quoting 767eng (Thread starter):
Anyone know when it's planned to touch down and when it's planning to fly back?

I presume it will be before 10am as that is when the event starts. It ends at 4pm so I guess it will take off after that.

Any idea if it will be a Airbus company aircraft or a SQ/QF bird?


User currently offline767eng From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2010, 49 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (3 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 12217 times:

It's one of the Airbus test aircraft arriving Friday sometime leaving Sunday sometime. That's all I know.

User currently offlineqf002 From Australia, joined Jul 2011, 3020 posts, RR: 2
Reply 3, posted (3 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 12046 times:

Sign of QF A380s operating from T5 following the changes next March??   

User currently offlinesandyb123 From UK - Scotland, joined Oct 2007, 1133 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (3 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 11976 times:
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Quoting qf002 (Reply 3):

Or the lead up to BA A380 EIS although that isn't until 2013.... Maybe a bit of a PR stunt?

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User currently offlineCXfirst From Norway, joined Jan 2007, 3089 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (3 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 11723 times:

Quoting sandyb123 (Reply 4):
Or the lead up to BA A380 EIS although that isn't until 2013.... Maybe a bit of a PR stunt?

Sandyb123

Aren't the majority of A380 gates at T5C? That satellite recently opened, so they have had time to perfect any problems, and now, when they know things are working right, they can test an A380 there.

Could that be the reason for doing it today? Or is the testing being done at T5A or T5B?

-CXfirst



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User currently offlineVV701 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2005, 7739 posts, RR: 17
Reply 6, posted (3 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 11119 times:

Quoting sandyb123 (Reply 4):
Maybe a bit of a PR stunt?

Or perhaps a wise precaution after the debacle of the first week after T5 opened.

However bringing the 380 in so it can also feature at the BA family day this weekend together with Concorde, the last BA 752 and the last 320-211 that flew its last revenue flight yesterday (31 August) will certainly not be bad for staff morale. In many ways its better than a costly trip to FAB. I'm jealous!


User currently offlinelhr380 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (3 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 11072 times:

Quoting VV701 (Reply 6):
Or perhaps a wise precaution after the debacle of the first week after T5 opened.

That had nothing to do with gates. It was a baggage system problem.

Looking forward the 380.


User currently offlineCARST From Germany, joined Jul 2006, 837 posts, RR: 2
Reply 8, posted (3 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 9708 times:

Quoting lhr380 (Reply 7):
That had nothing to do with gates. It was a baggage system problem.

But an A380 equals a looooot of bags at the same time... I don't expect that to be a problem now, but you'll never know. Testing all the ground-handling including gate space, baggage handling etc. might be a good idea after all.


User currently offlineRubberJungle From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (3 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 9406 times:

There's an open day event taking place but BA said it's not a test operation for T5, and reckoned it's more likely to be parked over at engineering.

User currently offlineairbazar From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 8659 posts, RR: 10
Reply 10, posted (3 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 9361 times:

Quoting CARST (Reply 8):
But an A380 equals a looooot of bags at the same time... I don't expect that to be a problem now, but you'll never know. Testing all the ground-handling including gate space, baggage handling etc. might be a good idea after all.

Somehow I doubt the Airbus test aircraft will be there loaded with bags for baggage handling tests  


User currently offlinelhr380 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (3 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 9330 times:

Quoting CARST (Reply 8):
But an A380 equals a looooot of bags at the same time

Probably a extra set of carts compared to a full 747, so no major differences. It went to pot when the place opened but now things generally run very well. 9 times out of 10 I have seen my bag come out on the belt by the time im walking into the baggage hall, even if I have come from A or B. If they are testing the 380 gates (Bear in mind BA are not getting them till late next year) it would just be checking the 380 gates and stuff.


User currently offlineCARST From Germany, joined Jul 2006, 837 posts, RR: 2
Reply 12, posted (3 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 9305 times:

Quoting airbazar (Reply 10):
Somehow I doubt the Airbus test aircraft will be there loaded with bags for baggage handling tests

I could be wrong, but I think they did the same thing in FRA. At least the tested all their ground equipment with an Airbus test aircraft. There is a youtube video about the event.


User currently offlineEK413 From Australia, joined Nov 2003, 5013 posts, RR: 4
Reply 13, posted (3 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 9073 times:

Quoting qf002 (Reply 3):
Sign of QF A380s operating from T5 following the changes next March??

Considering the cut back in flights you would certainly hope so... QF will only operate 2 flights to LHR after all...

Quoting sandyb123 (Reply 4):
Or the lead up to BA A380 EIS although that isn't until 2013

Could BA probably receive the A380 sooner than expected considering QF have postponed delivery of the remaining 8 frames...?

EK413



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User currently offlinePanman From Trinidad and Tobago, joined Aug 1999, 790 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (3 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 8818 times:

Quoting EK413 (Reply 13):
Quoting qf002 (Reply 3):
Sign of QF A380s operating from T5 following the changes next March??

Considering the cut back in flights you would certainly hope so... QF will only operate 2 flights to LHR after all...

QF will not be using T5 at any point in the future...

pAnmAn


User currently offlinebraby From UK - England, joined Mar 2007, 138 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (3 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 8735 times:

The 380 is being used for testing towing procedures and taxiway clearance's going to BA engineering base.

User currently offlineVV701 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2005, 7739 posts, RR: 17
Reply 16, posted (3 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 7895 times:

Quoting EK413 (Reply 13):
Could BA probably receive the A380 sooner than expected considering QF have postponed delivery of the remaining 8 frames...?

This seems unlikely to me.

BA were originally expecting delivery of six 380s in 2012-13 (that is in the 12 months starting 1 April 2012) and the other six in 2013-14 . Now at BA's request the delivery schedule is four in 2013-14, three in each of 2014-15 and 2015-16 and two in 2016-17.

At the time BA detailed the above (May 2010) they were planning to bring two 744s back from the desert.

This is all illustrated om Slides 28 and 30 of their presentation to investors here:

http://media.corporate-ir.net/media_.../01_ID_2010_Full_presentations.pdf

Since this presentation they have returned two 744s that were parked at VCV to service. A third (then unplanned) 744 was ferried from VCV to CWL for major maintenance (a D Check) and the fitting of their new F Class cabin last June and will re-enter service in the near future. BA also have a further three 744s in the desert that could also be returned to active duty.

BA will also be accepting delivery of three new 77Ws in the next 5 months. (Here it is worth recognising that the three already in service are configured to carry up to 297 passengers while the BA Hi J configured 744s can only carry up to 291 passengers.)

Recognising all of the above the chances of BA trying to pull forward deliveries of the 380s on order look slim to me.


User currently offlineeugegall From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2009, 97 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (3 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 7738 times:

Its scary how much fuel has increased. wow

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User currently offlineTristarsteve From Sweden, joined Nov 2005, 4069 posts, RR: 33
Reply 18, posted (3 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 7472 times:

Quoting braby (Reply 15):
The 380 is being used for testing towing procedures and taxiway clearance's going to BA engineering base.

Well I hope the white line painter has got it right. Don't want the wingtip coming off again (Like Paris).


User currently offlinegemuser From Australia, joined Nov 2003, 5827 posts, RR: 6
Reply 19, posted (3 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 5055 times:

Quoting EK413 (Reply 13):
considering QF have postponed delivery of the remaining 8 frames...?

No they haven't. Numbers 13 & 14 will arrive as scheduled, Numbers 15 to 20 (6airframes) have been deferred.

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User currently offlineEagleboy From Niue, joined Dec 2009, 1917 posts, RR: 2
Reply 20, posted (3 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 4945 times:
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Quoting Babybus (Reply 1):
Any idea if it will be a Airbus company aircraft or a SQ/QF bird?

I think an Airbus company aircraft would be a better PR move than an SQ bird. And why would BA pay another airline to borrow their aircraft when the manufacturer will provide one (maybe for free) as part of their continuing marketing campaign for the A380


User currently offlinelhr380 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (3 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 4851 times:

Quoting Eagleboy (Reply 20):
And why would BA pay another airline to borrow their aircraft when the manufacturer will provide one (maybe for free) as part of their continuing marketing campaign for the A380

It would not need to pay if it took the QF bird. Its parked up right next to T5C most of the day


User currently offlineqf002 From Australia, joined Jul 2011, 3020 posts, RR: 2
Reply 22, posted (3 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 4725 times:

Quoting EK413 (Reply 13):
Could BA probably receive the A380 sooner than expected considering QF have postponed delivery of the remaining 8 frames...?

The deferred QF frames are 2014 onwards, so even if they just bump everyone up a couple of spots the difference won't be major. BA are due to take deliveries in 2013.

Quoting lhr380 (Reply 21):
It would not need to pay if it took the QF bird. Its parked up right next to T5C most of the day

But there will be differences in the ways that BA/QF will service the aircraft, plus the lack of QF pilots to do the tests (they'll all be in their rest periods). Airbus will send a plane, engineers, pilots etc and will have everything on hand should there be any issues...


User currently offlineEK413 From Australia, joined Nov 2003, 5013 posts, RR: 4
Reply 23, posted (3 years 3 months 3 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 4386 times:

Quoting Panman (Reply 14):
Quoting EK413 (Reply 13):
Quoting qf002 (Reply 3):
Sign of QF A380s operating from T5 following the changes next March??

Considering the cut back in flights you would certainly hope so... QF will only operate 2 flights to LHR after all...

QF will not be using T5 at any point in the future...

Cheers, so I take it BA are keeping T5 all to them selves... Very greedy of them! lol

EK413



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User currently offlinelhr380 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 24, posted (3 years 3 months 3 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 4232 times:

Quoting qf002 (Reply 22):
But there will be differences in the ways that BA/QF will service the aircraft, plus the lack of QF pilots to do the tests

Why would they need a pilot, they could just tow it on and off stand. No real difference.


25 scrappy27 : Apparently IB are coming over to T5
26 MANfan : As stated by '767eng' earlier, it is one of Airbus's own A380s in their house colours. It arrived today and spent the afternoon parked on stand 557 (T
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