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AI 787 Has Star Alliance Logo On It  
User currently offline3rdGen From Bahrain, joined Jul 2011, 236 posts, RR: 0
Posted (3 years 2 weeks 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 16650 times:

http://www.airliners.net/photo/Air-I...eing-787-837-Dreamliner/1976076/L/

The aircraft has the Star Alliance logo on it near the nose.

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User currently offlinejreuschl From United States of America, joined Jul 2009, 547 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (3 years 2 weeks 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 16603 times:

Collectors item! Sell as is on eBay!  

User currently offlineenzedder From New Zealand, joined Aug 2005, 51 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (3 years 2 weeks 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 16592 times:

well, i guess that needs to get removed...   

enzedder


User currently offlineWestJet747 From Canada, joined Aug 2011, 1834 posts, RR: 10
Reply 3, posted (3 years 2 weeks 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 16345 times:

Good eye 3rdGen.

Hard to believe that nobody in Everett had the sense to at least have it covered up (if not removed completely).

But I'm sure the next time we see this aircraft it will be gone since it would be illegal for AI to take delivery of the plane as we see it in this photo.



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User currently offline3rdGen From Bahrain, joined Jul 2011, 236 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (3 years 2 weeks 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 16310 times:

Quoting WestJet747 (Reply 3):
But I'm sure the next time we see this aircraft it will be gone since it would be illegal for AI to take delivery of the plane as we see it in this photo

Ya you're right, NO ENGINES!  


User currently offlineStitch From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 31000 posts, RR: 86
Reply 5, posted (3 years 2 weeks 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 16293 times:
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Quoting WestJet747 (Reply 3):
Hard to believe that nobody in Everett had the sense to at least have it covered up (if not removed completely).

I expect it will be handled once the airplane is prepared for delivery. I mean the JL birds are still in the old colors.  


User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 26997 posts, RR: 57
Reply 6, posted (3 years 2 weeks 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 15731 times:

Its actually sad to see ! What could have been .... I was actually looking forward to AI coming into Star. Quite an embarrassment really.

User currently onlinexiaotung From New Zealand, joined Jan 2006, 840 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (3 years 2 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 15240 times:

The August issue of the Air New Zealand in-flight magazine had three indian airports with a Star logo on the route map which indicates Star hubs. They must have almost joined.

User currently offlinecruiseshipcrew From United States of America, joined Aug 2008, 207 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (3 years 2 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 14871 times:

Someones on their way to the hardware shop to pick up a can of white paint. They have some patch work to do!


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User currently offlinecomorin From United States of America, joined May 2005, 4896 posts, RR: 16
Reply 9, posted (3 years 2 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 13667 times:

Quoting enzedder (Reply 2):
well, i guess that needs to get removed..

OR the AI livery may need to get removed! Is it confirmed that they will take delivery?


User currently offlineqf002 From Australia, joined Jul 2011, 2987 posts, RR: 2
Reply 10, posted (3 years 2 weeks 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 13374 times:

Talk about an awkward break up...

"Hey Star, I got a tattoo professing my commitment to you" "Yah, AI, we need to talk..."


User currently offlineEK413 From Australia, joined Nov 2003, 4920 posts, RR: 4
Reply 11, posted (3 years 2 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 12298 times:

I've been hiding underneath a rock the past few weeks so could someone please shed some light on AI and St*r.... Based on the quotes I take it plans to join failed.... any indication as to what went wrong....

EK413



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User currently offlineWestJet747 From Canada, joined Aug 2011, 1834 posts, RR: 10
Reply 12, posted (3 years 2 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 12052 times:

Quoting EK413 (Reply 11):
could someone please shed some light on AI and St*r.... Based on the quotes I take it plans to join failed.... any indication as to what went wrong....
Here's a brief summation of what happened...



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User currently offlineordjoe From United States of America, joined Aug 2010, 708 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (3 years 2 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 11987 times:

Quoting EK413 (Reply 11):
I've been hiding underneath a rock the past few weeks so could someone please shed some light on AI and St*r.... Based on the quotes I take it plans to join failed.... any indication as to what went wrong....

AI was invited to join star a few years ago. To join any alliance takes a good deal of work, mostly in terms of computer and IT upgrades to link in to the other airlines networks so you can print boarding passes and other stuff like that. About a month ago star withdrew AI's invitation. They had just been stalling and not getting their act together for so long, that it would bring into question as to whether they would be a stable partner in the alliance. AI has been plagued by bureaucracy and bad management for years; this has been reflected in their outdated products, and on time performance. In all honesty AI has become a lot better over the past 10 years, they still could not have cut it. I do not disagree with star's decision to rescind the invite, they gave AI years to get things together.


User currently offlineEK413 From Australia, joined Nov 2003, 4920 posts, RR: 4
Reply 14, posted (3 years 2 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 11746 times:

Quoting WestJet747 (Reply 12):
AI was invited to join star a few years ago. To join any alliance takes a good deal of work, mostly in terms of computer and IT upgrades to link in to the other airlines networks so you can print boarding passes and other stuff like that. About a month ago star withdrew AI's invitation. They had just been stalling and not getting their act together for so long, that it would bring into question as to whether they would be a stable partner in the alliance. AI has been plagued by bureaucracy and bad management for years; this has been reflected in their outdated products, and on time performance. In all honesty AI has become a lot better over the past 10 years, they still could not have cut it. I do not disagree with star's decision to rescind the invite, they gave AI years to get things together.
Quoting ordjoe (Reply 13):



Cheers.... Thanks for the prompt response...
I agree this probably would of filled in one of the gaps in St*r Alliance's network...
What a shame AI didn't bother to act and upgrade and meet the requirements to join the alliance... This certainly would've been beneficial to AI network...

EK413



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User currently offlineordjoe From United States of America, joined Aug 2010, 708 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (3 years 2 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 11428 times:

I am sure ST and *A will be courting 9W heavily in the coming days. It is too bad for AI, they really truly have come a long way over the years, joining star would have formally brought them into a new era and close out its darker government run days.

User currently offline7673mech From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 729 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (3 years 2 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 10126 times:
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Quoting WestJet747 (Reply 3):

Hard to believe that nobody in Everett had the sense to at least have it covered up (if not removed completely).

Why?
The plane was painted several years ago.
It is not in service; rather in storage.
Inactive.
The only time the livery will be addressed again is at delivery.
Removing it costs money. (Mechanic, paperwork telling mechanic to do so, etc.)

Everyone is Everett is worried about deliveries and post certification work - not a Star Alliance logo that was painted several years ago.


User currently offlineWestJet747 From Canada, joined Aug 2011, 1834 posts, RR: 10
Reply 17, posted (3 years 2 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 9141 times:

Quoting 7673mech (Reply 16):
Why?

Boeing has painting facilities and teams in Everett. I'm not saying re-paint the aircraft, just patch it up for the time being.

Maybe I'm too detail oriented, but I wouldn't allow for a product to be incorrectly represented in the public view, especially when it can be so easily fixed.



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User currently offlinewillzzz88 From United States of America, joined May 2011, 150 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (3 years 2 weeks 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 7916 times:

LOL LOL bad AI Management!

See if an Indian IT outsourcing firm like Wipro or Infosys was managing Air India SITA infrastructure for the Star Alliance *A upgrade they would have made it!

But NO AI FAILS! ;(

It wasn't about Air India's IT failure in technology and communications, it was more about the management not moving QUICK ENOUGH even though the Air India board in Frankfurt GAVE REPEATED WARNINGS over MONTHS...

[Edited 2011-09-01 13:07:45]

User currently offlineqf002 From Australia, joined Jul 2011, 2987 posts, RR: 2
Reply 19, posted (3 years 2 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 5997 times:

Quoting comorin (Reply 19):

I think he means the Star board.


User currently offlinerobsaw From Canada, joined Dec 2008, 240 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (3 years 2 weeks 6 days ago) and read 5733 times:

Quoting WestJet747 (Reply 17):
Maybe I'm too detail oriented, but I wouldn't allow for a product to be incorrectly represented in the public view, especially when it can be so easily fixed.

Presumably it would be AI that would have to pay for the coverup, Boeing isn't going to do it unless they are told to by the customer.


User currently offlinelightsaber From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 13130 posts, RR: 100
Reply 21, posted (3 years 2 weeks 6 days ago) and read 5523 times:
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Good find!   

Quoting qf002 (Reply 10):
"Hey Star, I got a tattoo professing my commitment to you" "Yah, AI, we need to talk..."

     

I wonder what items AI purchased to celibrate joining *A that are now heading to Ebay...

Quoting 7673mech (Reply 16):
Removing it costs money. (Mechanic, paperwork telling mechanic to do so, etc.)

  

AI has to come up with the $$$ to have that done.

Quoting WestJet747 (Reply 17):
Boeing has painting facilities and teams in Everett. I'm not saying re-paint the aircraft, just patch it up for the time being.

Boeing has better uses for every technician and engineer on the 787 right now. I could see AI requiring the change. They just need to fill out the change request and Boeing will charge them for the overtime...

Quoting ordjoe (Reply 15):
I am sure ST and *A will be courting 9W heavily in the coming days.

9W is the 'bell of the ball' with alliances and Indian aviation. With IT pledged to OW, 9W will have many opportunities, but seems inclined to *A.

That leaves 3 much smaller players and AI for ST to choose among.

Maybe we'll see it on another 787?   

Quoting 3rdGen (Reply 4):
Quoting WestJet747 (Reply 3):
But I'm sure the next time we see this aircraft it will be gone since it would be illegal for AI to take delivery of the plane as we see it in this photo

Ya you're right, NO ENGINES!

Are there windows? I'm serious. Those seals start to age when installed. I've heard many (most?) of the 787s are sitting sans windows. Does this example even have windows?

I have to say, the bright orange blocks as weights does have a certain look...

Lightsaber



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User currently offlinedlednicer From United States of America, joined May 2005, 544 posts, RR: 6
Reply 22, posted (3 years 2 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 4531 times:
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Interesting - I have a picture of VT-ANA in the appeals queue right now and it doesn't have the Star Alliance logo. Neither does my picture of VT-ANB that got rejected (I'm not appealing that one).

Kinda like my picture of 747-8F N5017Q that was mismarked as N747EX. After my picture showed up on a.net, someone was out there the next day repainting the registration!


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User currently offlinelightsaber From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 13130 posts, RR: 100
Reply 23, posted (3 years 2 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 3994 times:
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Quoting dlednicer (Reply 22):
I have a picture of VT-ANA in the appeals queue right now and it doesn't have the Star Alliance logo. Neither does my picture of VT-ANB that got rejected (I'm not appealing that one).

Aww man, that's no fun.   So they found the white paint.

Quoting qf002 (Reply 10):
"Hey Star, I got a tattoo professing my commitment to you" "Yah, AI, we need to talk..."

That is funny. After thinking about that a bit, I was chuckling later. Well played.

Quoting xiaotung (Reply 7):
The August issue of the Air New Zealand in-flight magazine had three indian airports with a Star logo on the route map which indicates Star hubs

I'm guessing Air new Zealand didn't vote them down.   

Lightsaber



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User currently offlineaa757first From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 3350 posts, RR: 7
Reply 24, posted (3 years 2 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 3994 times:

Quoting ordjoe (Reply 15):
I am sure ST and *A will be courting 9W heavily in the coming days. It is too bad for AI, they really truly have come a long way over the years, joining star would have formally brought them into a new era and close out its darker government run days.

The Indian government may not let 9W join an alliance if AI is unable to enter one. It looks like Star was expecting the government to allow both airlines to join. Of course, the DGCA, as AI's guardian angel, was outraged. Talk about cutting off your nose to spite your face.

http://www.livemint.com/2011/08/0200...Star-Alliance-denies-berth-to.html


25 tullamarine : Lot easier to remove a decal than a complete repaint. Given the delays, I wonder if JL will be able to tell Boeing that it is their job and cost to r
26 aarbee : Nice one! Well apart from a bunch of enthusiastic like us .. I don't think it would matter much. Cheers, R
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