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Turkish Planes Skids, Got Stuck In Mud At BOM  
User currently offlineaarbee From India, joined Aug 2005, 260 posts, RR: 0
Posted (2 years 12 months 12 hours ago) and read 12364 times:

Turkish plane skids off Mumbai airport runway, all passengers safe
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/c...ngers-safe/articleshow/9831701.cms

Closed runway at BOM for 4 hours.

Bad week for Indian airports.

Cheers,

Renal


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User currently offlineflythere From Hong Kong, joined May 2010, 441 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (2 years 12 months 12 hours ago) and read 12342 times:

Indian gov really need to work on the safety standards of all Indian airports. Actions must be taken in due course.

User currently offlinebahadir From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 1778 posts, RR: 10
Reply 2, posted (2 years 12 months 11 hours ago) and read 12254 times:

97 people including crew? that makes it like 90 or less passengers .. no wonder thy is bleeding bad..


Earthbound misfit I
User currently offlineHB-IWC From Indonesia, joined Sep 2000, 4503 posts, RR: 72
Reply 3, posted (2 years 12 months 11 hours ago) and read 12182 times:

Quoting bahadir (Reply 2):
97 people including crew? that makes it like 90 or less passengers

... on an A343 that is.


User currently offlinekiramakora From Argentina, joined Aug 2006, 547 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (2 years 12 months 10 hours ago) and read 12141 times:

Quoting flythere (Reply 1):
Indian gov really need to work on the safety standards of all Indian airports. Actions must be taken in due course.

While the Indian government may be blamed for a lot of things, please elaborate how this is the fault of the Indian government? Do we know any policy that is caused this accident, and that is different from generally accepted principles?


User currently offlineISTGRU From Australia, joined Jun 2011, 42 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (2 years 12 months 9 hours ago) and read 11968 times:

Quoting HB-IWC (Reply 3):
97 people including crew? that makes it like 90 or less passengers .. no wonder thy is bleeding bad..

Its holiday time in Turkey and majority-Muslim countries so loads to some routes (esp business routes) are typically lower. TK's poorer financial performance this year is largely due to fuel and a weaking lira (affecting leasing costs etc), see:
http://www.centreforaviation.com/new...e-rate-losses-and-fuel-costs/page1


User currently offlineCricket From India, joined Aug 2005, 2967 posts, RR: 7
Reply 6, posted (2 years 12 months 2 hours ago) and read 11480 times:

Quoting flythere (Reply 1):
Indian gov really need to work on the safety standards of all Indian airports. Actions must be taken in due course.

Huh?

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User currently offlineindcwby From United States of America, joined Dec 2010, 135 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (2 years 12 months ago) and read 10872 times:

NDTV is reporting its a A343, with a better pic of its main gear in the grass.

http://www.ndtv.com/article/india/tu...f-taxiway-at-mumbai-airport-130917



User currently offlinebirdbrainz From United States of America, joined May 2005, 458 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (2 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 10311 times:

Exactly how to they get that thing out of the mud?


A good landing is one you can walk away from. A great landing is if the aircraft can be flown again.
User currently offlinelhr380 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (2 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 10245 times:

Quoting birdbrainz (Reply 8):
Exactly how to they get that thing out of the mud?

Joe Patroni, say no more  

Guess they will use a tug, wooden planks etc


User currently offlinescouseflyer From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2006, 3388 posts, RR: 9
Reply 10, posted (2 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 10206 times:

They managed to get the SQ A380 out off the a similar situation but it will be tricky

User currently offlinespartanmjf From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 498 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (2 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 10185 times:

Quoting lhr380 (Reply 9):
Joe Patroni, say no more

But that's no 707..........



"Nuts to the man in 21D!"
User currently offlinelhr380 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (2 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 10064 times:

Quoting spartanmjf (Reply 11):
But that's no 707..........

Nope, but same set up sorta. Single deck, 4 engines lol.


User currently offlineworldliner From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2005, 275 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (2 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 9887 times:

97 people on a 343? Damn that's empty, are the loads often that bad?


@777Worldliner
User currently offlineAirbusA370 From Germany, joined Dec 2008, 253 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (2 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 9845 times:

Quoting worldliner (Reply 13):
97 people on a 343? Damn that's empty, are the loads often that bad?

If the return leg is full, there is no problem with that...


User currently offlinetcm From Turkey, joined Jul 2010, 584 posts, RR: 2
Reply 15, posted (2 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 9845 times:

Quoting worldliner (Reply 13):

97 people on a 343? Damn that's empty, are the loads often that bad?


@777Worldliner

The return leg has apperantly a load of 240+ pax.


User currently offlineLAXintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 25115 posts, RR: 46
Reply 16, posted (2 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 8066 times:

Quoting worldliner (Reply 13):
97 people on a 343? Damn that's empty, are the loads often that bad?

Read Reply 5.

Its the end of a holiday week in Turkey (and much the Muslim world). People that went on vacation are returning home, and business activity does not pick up again until next week. So there would be hardly any demand to go to India on Friday.



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User currently offlinedispatchguy From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 1249 posts, RR: 2
Reply 17, posted (2 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 7544 times:

24 hours later and it still must be there...

A1277/11 NOTAMR A1276/11
Q) VABF/QMRXX/IV/NBO/A/000/999/
A) VABB B) 1109021247 C) 1109030630
E) RWY 09/27 NOT AVBL FOR OPS DUE ACFT OFF THE RWY BTN TWY N7
AND N8.PORTION OF RWY27 BTN TXY N4 AND N7 IS AVBL FOR
TAXING.STANDARD OBSTRUCTION LGHTS HAVE BEEN PLACED WEST OF
TWY S7,EAST OF TWY N4 AND ACROSS TWY N3 ON RWY27.



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User currently offlineaarbee From India, joined Aug 2005, 260 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (2 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 6286 times:

Still closed. Wow!

http://www.ndtv.com/article/cities/m...ll-not-open-flights-delayed-131003



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User currently offlineCricket From India, joined Aug 2005, 2967 posts, RR: 7
Reply 19, posted (2 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 6004 times:

Think 9-27 is open for business now, I hope there any more damage to the plane unlike the other write-offs that skidded off that runway - the S2 737-300 and the IT ATR72 come to mind. They should really put a 'Slippery when wet' sign on the runway.


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User currently offlinehorstroad From Germany, joined Apr 2010, 260 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (2 years 11 months 4 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 5801 times:

why one slide was deployed?

User currently offlineN593HA From Germany, joined Oct 2004, 152 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (2 years 11 months 4 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 5610 times:

Sorry, my ignorance, but what is the procedure to deflate the slide that was deployed before returning the aircraft back to service or ferrying it back to IST?

Aloha
N593HA



Next trip: KL+NW to HNL
User currently offlineHAWK21M From India, joined Jan 2001, 31679 posts, RR: 56
Reply 22, posted (2 years 11 months 4 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 5585 times:

Quoting flythere (Reply 1):

Indian gov really need to work on the safety standards of all Indian airports. Actions must be taken in due course.

There is no connection with the Incident to the safety standards at Indian Airports.......You must be joking.....This was caused by wet runway/taxiway & the pilot taking the earlier Rapid exit path at high speeds leading to the skid.The crew should have slowed down and taken the further down exit.

Quoting birdbrainz (Reply 8):

Exactly how to they get that thing out of the mud?

Normally they use Air bags to lighten the aircraft,build a firm surface with metal sheets/asphalt from the Wheels aft & tow the Aircraft from the MLGs after lightening it by defuelling excess fuel.

Quoting N593HA (Reply 22):
Sorry, my ignorance, but what is the procedure to deflate the slide that was deployed before returning the aircraft back to service or ferrying it back to IST?

There is a release valve at the end,its needs to be opened & Air pushed out.



Think of the brighter side!
User currently offlinehorstroad From Germany, joined Apr 2010, 260 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (2 years 11 months 4 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 5573 times:

Quoting N593HA (Reply 22):
Sorry, my ignorance, but what is the procedure to deflate the slide that was deployed before returning the aircraft back to service or ferrying it back to IST?

slide is disconnected from the plane, deflated through the swing type check valve(s) where the air got in, packed in a box, shipped to the workshop and prepared for installation.

but why was it deployed in the first place? on the photos it looks like only one slide was deployed


User currently offlineanshuk From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2009, 485 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (2 years 11 months 4 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 5689 times:

Was it the wisest decision to deploy the slide? From the photos, it appears as though it wouldn't have been hard to get air stairs to at least one of the doors? And besides, aren't there usually a few injuries when you evacuate by slide?

25 Lufthansa747 : I fly TK about 50 flights a year. There are great, good, ok and very poor F/As in the team like in any rapidly growing airline. The investigation wil
26 HAWK21M : The Soft ground between N7 & N8 taxitracks compounded by rain has made mvmt of vehicles to the stricken Aircraft difficult. Currently work is in p
27 gr8circle : What was the logic behind this comment...? What's the Indian govt got to do with a Turkish plane skidding off the runway in wet weather conditions...
28 HAWK21M : Fresh NOTAM states valid Rnwy 09-27 closed till 1200hrs.
29 Cricket : Have they finally got it out - BOM should really look at making the entire around the runway paved
30 Airbus_A340 : 40 minutes holding getting into BOM last night, a little chaotic getting in, especially with departure traffic having to partially backtrack on the sh
31 HAWK21M : There is a drain going accross & under the runway...... Add the river that flows accross too.
32 Boeing747_600 : Exactly. Mindless posts like the one you reference do nothing to enhance the dialogue on this forum.
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