FlySSC From France, joined Aug 2003, 7313 posts, RR: 61 Posted (1 year 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 6959 times:
Starting today Sept. 5th, AF is operating again an A380 on CDG-NRT-CDG (AF276/275).
The flight was downgraded to a B772ER and then a B77W following the drop of demand after the earthquake and the tsunami last March.
The A380 will remain on CDG-NRT for at least 2 months during a "test period" as AF is expecting the demand will increase again ... If not, the B77W will be back on this flight and the A380 is planned to be transferred on one of the Daily CDG-PVG flight.
AF & JAL are jointly operating the 4 Daily Flights between Paris and Tokyo : 3 on CDG-NRT (AF A388 + AF B77W + JL B77W) 1 on CDG-HND (JL B777 using AF slots at HND).
N593HA From Germany, joined Oct 2004, 152 posts, RR: 0 Reply 3, posted (1 year 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 6333 times:
Confirm, are the needed frames for AF276/275 CDG-NRT-CDG coming from AF084/083 CDG-SFO-CDG which suppose to be switched to 77W at the beginning of this month (though the flight on Saturday (Sept 4th) was still operated by A380)?
FlySSC From France, joined Aug 2003, 7313 posts, RR: 61 Reply 4, posted (1 year 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 6088 times:
Quoting N593HA (Reply 3): are the needed frames for AF276/275 CDG-NRT-CDG coming from AF084/083 CDG-SFO-CDG which suppose to be switched to 77W at the beginning of this month (though the flight on Saturday (Sept 4th) was still operated by A380)?
AF084/083 CDG-SFO-CDG is now operated with a B77W and AF346/"'è CDG-YUL-CDG now with a B744.
Two airframes are needed to operate 1 x Daily CDG-NRT-CDG.
Not exactly on topic but how is that? I guess it's much better for JL to operate that flight since the timmings are poor and JL can maybe make a use of the aircraft in the downtime.
Otherwise, a little sad to see AF A380 out of YUL and SFO. Wouldn't they make more sense on South hemisphere flights startoing November? JNB is already covered, what about GRU/GIG?
1 x Daily A380 on CDG-GRU + 1 x Daily A380 on CDG-GIG are planned for the winter 2012/13 schedule.
Quoting icna05e (Reply 5): Not exactly on topic but how is that? I guess it's much better for JL to operate that flight since the timmings are poor and JL can maybe make a use of the aircraft in the downtime.
AF owns the slots at HND but indeed , considering the restrictions at HND, it's a much better aircraft utilization rate if the flight is operated by a HND base airplane.
Not sure yet that the A380 will continue on CDG-JNB after CDG-CPT nonstop will be opened next November.
AF still wait how it will affect the loads on CDG-JNB.
laca773 From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 3749 posts, RR: 2 Reply 7, posted (1 year 8 months 3 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 4810 times:
It's nice to hear things picking up for NRT demand.
jag10005 From United States of America, joined Jan 2011, 4 posts, RR: 0 Reply 8, posted (1 year 8 months 3 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 4683 times:
The AF A388 will be sorely missed in SFO. It was a treat to unexpectedly welcome her to SFO as a result of AF repositioning her from CDG-NRT-CDG after the Japanese earthquake. Any chance AF 388s will return to SFO as part of regularly scheduled service? There is a healthy French community here in San Francisco, Silicon valley, and of course, it is a very popular tourist destination. Hope the aircraft was profitable on this route for AF (this summer.) Keeping my fingers crossed.
as739x From United States of America, joined Apr 2003, 5821 posts, RR: 23 Reply 9, posted (1 year 8 months 3 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 3996 times:
Unfortunately it's sounds as this will be the only time we see the AF whale here. Plan is back to a 747 next summer. Of course this very well could change, but doubt it. However 2012 should see the arrival of the EK A380.
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Thanks flySSC for the answers! I guess it's an overall improve to get the CPT flights, but we'll miss our AF990 "super" on the freq at night!
does seem AF is struggling to find markets for their superjumbos (them putting it back so "soon" on NRT is what makes me say that - but let's give it some chance). Hope the handfull they'll get will be properly used.
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