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Does Fed Ex Send The 757 To Florida?  
User currently offline727LOVER From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 6437 posts, RR: 17
Posted (3 years 1 week 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 3120 times:

Any Fed Ex 757 able to be seen in Florida? I have yet to see one!  

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User currently offlineNASCARAirforce From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 3178 posts, RR: 4
Reply 1, posted (3 years 1 week 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 3079 times:

Have yet to see it at MCO or the 777 for that matter. I am hoping maybe Christmas we finally see some.

MCO has mainly been DC-10, MD-11, although today I saw an A310.


User currently offlinecatiii From United States of America, joined Mar 2008, 3031 posts, RR: 4
Reply 2, posted (3 years 1 week 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 3073 times:

Two of those photos are 757s with Canadian regs. Anyone know why they're registered in Canada and not the U.S.?

User currently onlineskymiler From United States of America, joined Aug 2007, 531 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (3 years 1 week 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 3058 times:

We see one in TLH nearly every day!


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User currently offlinejonathanxxxx From United States of America, joined Feb 2011, 673 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (3 years 1 week 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 3055 times:

Im prety sure MIA & FLL see it too.

User currently offline727LOVER From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 6437 posts, RR: 17
Reply 5, posted (3 years 1 week 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 3000 times:

Quoting jonathanxxxx (Reply 4):
Im prety sure MIA & FLL see it too.

I'm not sure exactly what that means.  



Listen Betty, don't start up with your 'White Zone' s*** again.
User currently offline757dab From United States of America, joined Jun 2010, 60 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (3 years 1 week 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 2996 times:

Quoting catiii (Reply 2):
Two of those photos are 757s with Canadian regs. Anyone know why they're registered in Canada and not the U.S.?

There flying for Morningstar Air Express in Canada



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User currently offlinecatiii From United States of America, joined Mar 2008, 3031 posts, RR: 4
Reply 7, posted (3 years 1 week 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 2996 times:

Quoting 757dab (Reply 6):

There flying for Morningstar Air Express in Canada

So then it's Morningstar doing business as FedEx? Or vice versa?


User currently offlinenjdevilsin03 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 728 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (3 years 1 week 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 2984 times:

They haven't been visiting FLL. Just drove by the airport currently on the ramp two Airbuses and an MD-11.


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User currently offlineaa61hvy From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 13977 posts, RR: 57
Reply 9, posted (3 years 1 week 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 2956 times:

Quoting NASCARAirforce (Reply 1):
Have yet to see it at MCO or the 777 for that matter. I am hoping maybe Christmas we finally see some.

You wont be seeing the 777 at MCO for a while. They'll move the MD-11 there before the 777. They are focusing on the Asia/Europe runs.



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User currently onlinemffoda From United States of America, joined Apr 2010, 1072 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (3 years 1 week 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 2932 times:

Quoting jonathanxxxx (Reply 4):

Im prety sure MIA & FLL see it too.

Never seen 757 @ FLL... Mostly A300/310, but I could be wrong.



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User currently offlinedumbell2424 From United States of America, joined Apr 2009, 925 posts, RR: 2
Reply 11, posted (3 years 1 week 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 2916 times:
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Ask and ye shall receive. Checked all the major FL airports, got one.

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/FDX1481

MEM-TLH. All the others were A300/A310 mainly.


User currently offlinecotparampguy From United States of America, joined Jul 2008, 228 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (3 years 1 week 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 2899 times:

They never get sent to FLL. I have only seen A300, A310, MD-10, MD-11 and the occasional 727.

User currently offlineflymia From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 7175 posts, RR: 9
Reply 13, posted (3 years 1 week 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 2850 times:

Quoting skymiler (Reply 3):
We see one in TLH nearly every day!

Yep, I saw it last time I was there. My DL flight from ATL landed at about 8:30 or so and it was there parked guessing it leaves later at night. I was surprised to see a Fed Ex 757 but TLH is the capitol of Florida a very large state sure there is plenty of important mail.

Quoting jonathanxxxx (Reply 4):
Im prety sure MIA & FLL see it too.

Never seen them at either. Plenty of UPS 757s at MIA though.



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User currently offlinefxramper From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 7298 posts, RR: 85
Reply 14, posted (3 years 1 week 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 2808 times:
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FX #1007 MIA-ATL 757F

TPA & PBI should get them this fall.


User currently offlinewrenchon727 From United States of America, joined Apr 2009, 99 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (3 years 1 week 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 2782 times:

MIA See 757 Tues-Friday FLT1963 & 1007 EWR-MIA-ATL 05:51 ARR 21:00 DEP

[Edited 2011-09-06 18:19:16]

[Edited 2011-09-06 18:20:00]

User currently offlinestratosphere From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 1653 posts, RR: 4
Reply 16, posted (3 years 1 week 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 2693 times:

Quoting catiii (Reply 7):
So then it's Morningstar doing business as FedEx? Or vice versa?

They are FedEx a/c leased to Morningstar and they are maintained and flown by Morningstar even the registration is changed to canadian. But yes you can say they are the FedEx of Canada they move freight for them don't know the details but I think cabotage rules are the reason they use Morningstar to move freight within Canada.



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User currently onlineHPRamper From United States of America, joined May 2005, 4058 posts, RR: 8
Reply 17, posted (3 years 1 week 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 2602 times:

Quoting flymia (Reply 13):
I was surprised to see a Fed Ex 757 but TLH is the capitol of Florida a very large state sure there is plenty of important mail.

TLH is the stereotypical size of those FX markets that receive solely the 757. It probably carries freight for Panama City as well as Valdosta, I would think.


User currently offlineyyz717 From Canada, joined Sep 2001, 16259 posts, RR: 56
Reply 18, posted (3 years 1 week 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 2366 times:

Quoting stratosphere (Reply 16):
They are FedEx a/c leased to Morningstar and they are maintained and flown by Morningstar even the registration is changed to canadian. But yes you can say they are the FedEx of Canada they move freight for them don't know the details but I think cabotage rules are the reason they use Morningstar to move freight within Canada.

Morningstar (YEG based) operates 7 aircraft supporting Fedex Canada's domestic business. All 7 operate only in Canada and are seconded from the Fedex US fleet. Current 5 752F, 1 722F (presumably to return to the US shortly) and 1 ATR-42-300F. Primary 752F markets are YVR, YYC, YWG, YYZ, YMX, YHZ. Not sure about YEG, YOW, YQM or YYT.

Fedex Corp (ie. the US company) cannot fly domestic freight with Canada, hence the use of Morningstar.

N

[Edited 2011-09-07 10:24:00]


Panam, TWA, Ansett, Eastern.......AC next? Might be good for Canada.
User currently offlinejonathanxxxx From United States of America, joined Feb 2011, 673 posts, RR: 1
Reply 19, posted (3 years 1 week 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 2238 times:

Quoting 727LOVER (Reply 5):
I'm not sure exactly what that means.  

I meant that FLL & MIA see the FX 757 (Although I've been proved wrong as FLL does not see it)

Quoting cotparampguy (Reply 12):
Quoting flymia (Reply 13):
Never seen them at either. Plenty of UPS 757s at MIA though.

Ah yes, thinking of UPS. Although as shown above the 757 is sent to MIA by FX


User currently offlineNASCARAirforce From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 3178 posts, RR: 4
Reply 20, posted (3 years 1 week 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 2218 times:

Quoting aa61hvy (Reply 9):
They'll move the MD-11 there before the 777. They are focusing on the Asia/Europe runs.


We already get the MD-11 at MCO. I was just wondering at Christmastime when there are several additional flights that a couple might be used. UPS sent one of its 744s last year, so why wouldn't Fed Ex send a 777?


User currently onlineHPRamper From United States of America, joined May 2005, 4058 posts, RR: 8
Reply 21, posted (3 years 1 week 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 2204 times:

Quoting NASCARAirforce (Reply 20):
We already get the MD-11 at MCO. I was just wondering at Christmastime when there are several additional flights that a couple might be used. UPS sent one of its 744s last year, so why wouldn't Fed Ex send a 777?

UPS mixes in its 747s domestically during the holiday season. At PDX I've even seen two on the ground at the same time. FX however needs the 777s to fly internationally, and there isn't enough to go around. There are plenty of smaller aircraft in the states to send adhocs wherever they are needed.

There is also the issue of training. FX will not send an aircraft for which the ramp crew at a given station is not trained. It's not like many airlines where all the training on all the equipment is lumped together. There is a separate class for each type in the fleet, and if a given station is not expected to regularly see the type, then the class is not offered. For instance, I am trained on the MD10/11, 727, 757 and feeders, but not on the 777 or A300/310.

A crew is also not considered trained until there has been hands-on work with the aircraft. A class is not good enough, the plane has to be on the ground at that station.


User currently offlineaa61hvy From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 13977 posts, RR: 57
Reply 22, posted (3 years 1 week 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 2145 times:

Quoting NASCARAirforce (Reply 20):
UPS sent one of its 744s last year, so why wouldn't Fed Ex send a 777?

Because FedEx uses the 777 on specific routes. You're more likely to see a Kalitta 747 than FX contracted for extra lift than a FX 777 at MCO.



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User currently offlinefuelfool From United States of America, joined Feb 2011, 138 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (3 years 1 week 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 2110 times:

Quoting HPRamper (Reply 21):
but not on the 777

You can hardly get in a 777 class at IND. The only flight is on the ground only long enough to load it.



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User currently offlinefxramper From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 7298 posts, RR: 85
Reply 24, posted (3 years 1 week 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 2053 times:
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As more 757F get converted for FX you'll see more movement in Florida. The new European crew base will take some too.

Quoting NASCARAirforce (Reply 20):
We already get the MD-11 at MCO. I was just wondering at Christmastime when there are several additional flights that a couple might be used.

No 77F on domestic ops for foreseeable future. You could need the lift and we'd send five A310. Maybe when FX launches the 777BCF you'll see 77F on MEM/IND/LAX-ANC. Maybe not.


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