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First Regional Jet With Wi-Fi!  
User currently offlineKingFriday013 From United States of America, joined May 2007, 1294 posts, RR: 10
Posted (2 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 7797 times:

Delta Connection now has the first regional jet to feature onboard Wi-Fi for passengers. The first aircraft to be equipped is a CRJ-700 operated by ASA.

Here's the blog post from Delta: http://blog.delta.com/2011/09/07/wi-...e-internet-flies-delta-connection/

Quote:
Here’s a cool factoid…with today’s introduction of Wi-Fi service aboard a CRJ700 (operated by our friends at ASA), Delta now features the world’s smallest (65-seat CRJ700) and largest (261-seat B767-300) aircraft equipped with Wi-Fi (and everything in between!).

From what I understand, they'll be installing Wi-Fi on CRJ-700s, CRJ-900s, Embraer 170s and 175s. The 50-seaters (CR2s and ER4s) will not get Wi-Fi.

-J.


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User currently offlineERJ170 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 6729 posts, RR: 18
Reply 1, posted (2 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 7718 times:

Quoting KingFriday013 (Thread starter):
From what I understand, they'll be installing Wi-Fi on CRJ-700s, CRJ-900s, Embraer 170s and 175s. The 50-seaters (CR2s and ER4s) will not get Wi-Fi.

Makes since since DL stated any flight over 750 miles must be CR7 or higher.. on those lengths, the wifi makes sense.



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User currently offlineAV8AJET From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 1310 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (2 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 7433 times:

And also been repainted finally into the "new" DL livery. N722EV

[Edited 2011-09-07 10:53:15]


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User currently offlinejetblueguy22 From United States of America, joined Nov 2007, 2646 posts, RR: 4
Reply 3, posted (2 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 7424 times:
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It's a nice feature, but on those short hops I wonder how many people will really take advantage of it. I have trouble justifying it on BDL-DTW, I couldn't imagine trying to on MSP to like LSE.
Blue



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User currently offlineGrid From Kazakhstan, joined Apr 2010, 624 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (2 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 7402 times:

Quoting jetblueguy22 (Reply 3):
It's a nice feature, but on those short hops I wonder how many people will really take advantage of it. I have trouble justifying it on BDL-DTW, I couldn't imagine trying to on MSP to like LSE.
Blue

I wonder what the pricing will be for short flights like that.



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User currently offlineas739x From United States of America, joined Apr 2003, 5994 posts, RR: 24
Reply 5, posted (2 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 7353 times:

Quoting Grid (Reply 4):

Why would the price change? It won't cause it has wifi.

Quoting jetblueguy22 (Reply 3):

This is undoubtedly a feature for business passengers. Every time I am on a flight they are the last ones off their equipment and first one's on. I'm sure this will be well used by the people paying a good price for tickets.



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User currently offlineGrid From Kazakhstan, joined Apr 2010, 624 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (2 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 7290 times:

Quoting as739x (Reply 5):
Quoting Grid (Reply 4):

Why would the price change? It won't cause it has wifi.

Sorry, pricing, if any, to use wifi.



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User currently offlineazjubilee From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 3799 posts, RR: 28
Reply 7, posted (2 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 7278 times:

Mainline a/c have wiFi and also operate short flights... so... what's the difference? The point is that the service will be available to the passenger should they want to take advantage of it, regardless of stage length.

User currently offlineDeltaMD90 From United States of America, joined Apr 2008, 7257 posts, RR: 52
Reply 8, posted (2 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 7227 times:

Quoting KingFriday013 (Thread starter):
and largest (261-seat B767-300) aircraft equipped with Wi-Fi (and everything in between!).

Maybe I'm nitpicking, but doesn't the 744 or 772 have wifi?



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User currently offlinetoobz From Finland, joined Jan 2010, 752 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (2 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 7177 times:

Quoting DeltaMD90 (Reply 8):
Maybe I'm nitpicking, but doesn't the 744 or 772 have wifi?

Nope


User currently offlineSouthernDC9 From United States of America, joined Mar 2011, 375 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (2 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 7142 times:

Quoting KingFriday013 (Thread starter):
The 50-seaters (CR2s and ER4s) will not get Wi-Fi.

These will probably get dial-up or something horrible like that just to match the general feel and comfort-level of those planes.



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User currently offlineF9Animal From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 4947 posts, RR: 28
Reply 11, posted (2 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 7090 times:

I have not researched Wi-Fi on commercial flights at all. Can someone tell me how well it works, and is it fast? Also, what is the average cost to use it? Do they charge by the minute? Also, are there any airlines offering free Wi-Fi on their planes? I am sure I could google it, but I prefer to hear it from our airliners.nutters! Opinions are better on this site!  

Edit to ask another question. Will it work on most cell phones with internet? Also, some cell providers offer Wi-Fi calling. Can you make a call from a phone with the Wi-Fi on a plane?

Sorry if I sound stupid with these questions!!!!

[Edited 2011-09-07 12:20:22]


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User currently offlineGrid From Kazakhstan, joined Apr 2010, 624 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (2 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 6939 times:

Quoting SouthernDC9 (Reply 10):
These will probably get dial-up or something horrible like that just to match the general feel and comfort-level of those planes

Ha. If I take one of these flights, I'll report back whether I heard that sounds dial-up makes.



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User currently offlinesteex From United States of America, joined Jun 2007, 1564 posts, RR: 9
Reply 13, posted (2 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 6853 times:

Quoting jetblueguy22 (Reply 3):
It's a nice feature, but on those short hops I wonder how many people will really take advantage of it. I have trouble justifying it on BDL-DTW, I couldn't imagine trying to on MSP to like LSE.
Blue

The point is that the >50 seat RJs are used on longer flights, with 3+ hour flights not being particularly difficult to find. Sure, it may not be justifiable on BDL-DTW or MSP-LSE, but I'm sure many people will be glad to have internet on routes like STL-SLC, MCI-LAX, MEM-PHX, etc.


User currently offlinemotif1 From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 244 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (2 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 6796 times:

Quoting F9Animal (Reply 11):
I have not researched Wi-Fi

I have only used WiFi on a plane once. On 8/27/2009 at ATL I was handed a coupon for free WiFi at my gate. I tried it on DL1858 ATL-BOS N902DE. I only had my iPhone with me but I was able to use Yahoo Messenger, post a pic of the engine on facebook... I thought I worked very well. I have no idea what the pricing structure is. I am flying to ATL on DL again this week and my flight is showing that WiFi would be available. I might pay to try it again.

Cheers,
M1



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User currently offlineSouthernDC9 From United States of America, joined Mar 2011, 375 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (2 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 6727 times:

Quoting F9Animal (Reply 11):
I have not researched Wi-Fi on commercial flights at all. Can someone tell me how well it works, and is it fast? Also, what is the average cost to use it? Do they charge by the minute?

If I'm not mistaken it's like a flat fee for 24hrs (so if you flew BOS-ATL-SAN for example you would be covered for the whole trip), and I think you can buy plans that allow monthly or yearly access if you fly a lot. I believe it kicks in at 10,000 feet, and when you go online it will prompt you to buy a plan or enter your access code if you've already purchased or have a plan. I think it works pretty much like wifi anywhere else, from what I hear - no better or worse. I seem to remember AirTran at some point having a thing where the Wifi was free for a limited time. Also I seem to remember from my last flight on Delta that if you have the Delta Iphone app it will work with the plane's Wifi and you don't have to buy a plan, thus you can check your connecting flight status and what not. That might have just been a weird dream I had or something, who knows. In the spirit of your question I haven't researched this or looked it up, this is all from memory so have at it.



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User currently offlinePSU.DTW.SCE From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 7341 posts, RR: 28
Reply 16, posted (2 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 6698 times:

Quoting azjubilee (Reply 7):
Mainline a/c have wiFi and also operate short flights... so... what's the difference? The point is that the service will be available to the passenger should they want to take advantage of it, regardless of stage length.

Exactly! The 2-class RJs are operated on anything from 20 minute short-hops like ATL-GSP all the way up to some of the 3+ hour routes like DTW-DFW, MSP-YVR, MEM-BOS, MEM-PHX. No different than mainline too that operates routes long and short depending on the market and aircraft routings.

There are many different pricing options for go-go in-flight wireless:
1) Per-flight passes that can range for as low as $4.95 on the shorter routes up to I believe $12.95 on the longer routes
The price is adjusted based on the stage length.

Yes, I've paid for wifi on BDL-DTW, it was only $4.95, I had about an hour to get work done, and I really needed to be online to get some work done. I'd rather get my work done while I'm in the air than have to do it over the weekend.

2) 24 hour pass - this pass is good on as many flights as you fly within a 24 hour period. This is a great option if you have multiple flights (connections), are doing day-trips. This option can be more cost-effective than the per-flight option. Sure, someone may not want to pay for internet on BDL-DTW, but if they are flying BDL-DTW-LAX then it makes sense to get the day pass.

3) Monthly subscription - I'm not sure of the exact rate, but I think it is about $35 a month. For true road warriors, this again is a very cost-effective option.

Quoting toobz (Reply 9):
Quoting DeltaMD90 (Reply 8):
Maybe I'm nitpicking, but doesn't the 744 or 772 have wifi?

Nope

Wi-fi is not installed on the international fleet since the system is only available over the continental United States since it used a land-based transmitter.

Quoting SouthernDC9 (Reply 10):
Quoting KingFriday013 (Thread starter):
The 50-seaters (CR2s and ER4s) will not get Wi-Fi.

These will probably get dial-up or something horrible like that just to match the general feel and comfort-level of those planes.

Ha, let alone try to open an laptop computer on a CRJ. It can be quite a feat to read the screen.

I know the CRJs everyone loves to hate, but seriously they are fine for a short flights and into smaller markets. I think DL's policy got it right. tty good. It isn't as fast as a typical network connection but it works fine for email & web browsing.

I for one love the go-go system. Give me that any day over a PTV, and yes I will and don't mind paying for the service. The price is reasonable and it is great from both a productivity standpoint and also for entertainment. It sure beats landing late at night after a 3 hour flight only to be slammed with 30+ emails, when now you can respond in the air. It is also great since I can use my company's IM communicator or g-chat to get in touch with others. When traveling for leisure, there is more than enough to read on the internet to keep me busy for a few hours.


User currently offlineERJ170 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 6729 posts, RR: 18
Reply 17, posted (2 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 6698 times:

Delta 24 hour pass = $12.95
Delta 24 hour pass purchase before flight = $11
Delta Traveler = $34.95

Connection speed = same as on land

Delta gogo



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User currently offlinemotif1 From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 244 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (2 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 6648 times:

Quoting ERJ170 (Reply 17):
Delta gogo

That's what they were promoting and gave me a card with a promo code.

It worked pretty well as far as I remember. These days everybody has a tablet so WiFi can really be utilized. I hate pulling out the laptop in coach. There's never enough space.



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User currently offlinefanoftristars From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 1600 posts, RR: 5
Reply 19, posted (2 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 6606 times:

I for one am a regular user when I'm on mainline. I've never purchased a monthly pass though, unless I have a lot of mainline flights) because out west from SLC I'm on a lot of CRJs. Now that they're putting these on the 700s and 900s, it would probably be worth it. What frustrates me is how often the pricing changes. SLC-PHX sometimes it's $4.95, sometimes it's $9.95. I'm not sure why it changes on the same flight. Sometimes it's 4.95 on the way, then 9.95 on the way home. Sometimes if you log in towards the end of the flight, it only charges you $4.95. Sometimes if you're on an iPad, it charges you a mobile rate, sometimes it charges you the regular rate. Sometimes they give you a promo code like "dietcokegogo" which makes it free, or sometimes it only gives you 30 min for free. If you buy before your flight online when you check in, it's discounted, but you can only buy a day pass or month pass (not a flight pass) if it's discounted. All my flights are non-stop and 2hrs or less, so that's not saving anything for me. The pricing is a mess...

Since I usually expense the cost when I'm on a business trip, i'm not too concerned, but I wish they would build a consistent pricing structure.



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User currently offlinewillzzz88 From United States of America, joined May 2011, 150 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (2 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 6606 times:

It's essentially slots of 3.1Mbit 3G EVDO rA 2.5MHz slices (CDMA2000) with mobile phone towers pointed up instead of down across the continental US and I believe Canada with maybe Mexico.

They just installed a embedded 3G modem on the plane pointed down, and yes it uses specific FCC licensed frequencies so it ONLY operates over land.


User currently offlineLHUSA From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 560 posts, RR: 2
Reply 21, posted (2 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 5788 times:

Quoting KingFriday013 (Thread starter):
and largest (261-seat B767-300) aircraft

What about LH? FlyNet is up and running on some of the A333s/A340s and 744s.


User currently offlineMNMncrcnwjr From United States of America, joined Jul 2010, 308 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (2 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 3732 times:

LH Fly Net is Satellite based.. GoGo is Ground based ...

FlyNet rates
one-hour flat rate: 10.95 euros (or 3,500 miles)
24-hour flat rate: 19.95 euros (or 7,000 miles)
Broadband (scalable):
6 Mbps (into aircraft)
1 Mbps (ex aircraft)
Services:
WLAN, GSM*, GPRS*
Lufthansa long-haul fleet:
99 aircraft
Lufthansa FlyNet partners: Panasonic Avionics Corporation, Deutsche Telekom
Transmission mode:
satellite-based broadband
* in preparatio



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User currently offlinexdlx From United States of America, joined Aug 2008, 612 posts, RR: 1
Reply 23, posted (2 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 3508 times:

Quoting Grid (Reply 12):

Magic Jack!


User currently offline777ord From United States of America, joined May 2010, 456 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (2 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 3046 times:

I have taken Southwest and used their wi-fi on an ORF-LAS flight a few months ago, and it was amazing to be able to watch a netflix movie, although, it had to stop a few times to stream, but considering how many were on it was great!

But, I am curious on something else, what if you were flying a 172, for example, could you pick up the signal and connect? (assuming you paid for it of course)


25 Post contains links MNMncrcnwjr : Wifi for Biz Gen aviation .... http://www.viasat.com/broadband-networks/yonder/business-aviation http://www.ainonline.com/news/single...higher-end-biz
26 KaiGywer : Correct. You can also access delta.com for free from your computer if you want
27 Bennett123 : I thought that there were issues in use of electronic gadgets in flight. Or is WIFI different.
28 Post contains images FlyASAGuy2005 : For the Delta employees, DeltaNet is free as well. Always nice to check your company email or Travelnet DL will be testing streaming capabilities for
29 motif1 : I was on DL1001 BOS-ATL today (N648DL - B752) and it had GoGo. I was very pleased with the performance and the pricing options. I bought 15 minutes fo
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