747400sp From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 3301 posts, RR: 2 Posted (1 year 8 months 2 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 2732 times:
With the success of BBD Q400 ( Dash 8) there still a market for turbo props, so why did EMB stop build their turbo prop design? When I visit Los Angeles, I still see that Skywest Airlines, still use EMD E-120s, so why EMB could not update the E120?
NorthStarDC4M From Canada, joined Apr 2000, 2804 posts, RR: 41 Reply 1, posted (1 year 8 months 2 weeks ago) and read 2574 times:
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A few factors:
Lack of demand for 30 seat turboprops (the Q400 is much bigger, there aren't any 25-40 seat turboprops in production at the moment i don't think? ATR42 is a 40-48 seater and is still available.)
Over saturated used market (used Saab 340, Dash 8-100/200, Do328, EMB-120, ATR42, Jetstream 41 are all competing for the same market, which is much weaker than it once was, and there are more than a few 50 seat RJs available as well)
Need for production space for ERJ series and E-series
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iceberg210 From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 142 posts, RR: 0 Reply 2, posted (1 year 8 months 1 week 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 2328 times:
Technically Embraer actually hasn't stopped making turboprops. The EMB 120 is still in production for one off orders as it shares the same line as the ERJ series. In fact back in 2007 the Angolian Airforce picked one up. So If you still want one I'm sure Embraer would love to sell you one. But as you can see even with them on offer the interest just isn't there, one does wonder whether an updated version could work as a replacement for Saab 340's, EMB120's J41's etc that are leaving the fleets of airlines, but it seems that these routes are either upgraded to jets or left to disappear if the market isn't big enough for an RJ. I think the small turboprop market will be a very interesting one to watch over the next decade or so but perhaps Embraer figures their future is in bigger jets, (170-190, rumored 100+ seater etc...)
Would love to see some more orders for the 120 though, really neat aircraft...
B6JFKH81 From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 2767 posts, RR: 7 Reply 3, posted (1 year 8 months 1 week 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 1894 times:
Quoting iceberg210 (Reply 2): Would love to see some more orders for the 120 though, really neat aircraft...
I was VERY impressed by that aircraft. It was comfortable, had a lot of pep, and seemed to handle quite nicely. I enjoyed the EMB120 more than being on a DASH-8 (100/200).
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